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dahunan

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.



Is it just an illusion that there seem to be so many incidents of muslim terrorism .. versus other religiously motivated terrorism?
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.

My guess would be the issue of having to remember history of more than a few years ago would be one part of the problem.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
I hope India is able to find and punish those responsible. There is no excuse for this sort of attack. :|

I'm willing to bet they will find who ever was responsible with in 10 feet of the blast center.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.

:thumbsup: The others do the same with Christians.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.



Is it just an illusion that there seem to be so many incidents of muslim terrorism .. versus other religiously motivated terrorism?

Yeah, because that's what you see with your eyes. Another pair of eyes may see our invasion of Iraq as terrorism as well. "Shock and awe." What were those words and that action supposeed to do? Imbed fear. It's a form of terrorism.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.

I never said anything heinous about Muslims. But the fact that they are attacking so many countries across the globe does point to a trend.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.



Is it just an illusion that there seem to be so many incidents of muslim terrorism .. versus other religiously motivated terrorism?

Yeah, because that's what you see with your eyes. Another pair of eyes may see our invasion of Iraq as terrorism as well. "Shock and awe." What were those words and that action supposeed to do? Imbed fear. It's a form of terrorism.


Religious Terrorism?

I do fully agree that the Iraq War is an act of Terrorism and everyone who initiated it should be brought up on war crimes along with the whole Israeli Govt. too
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.



Is it just an illusion that there seem to be so many incidents of muslim terrorism .. versus other religiously motivated terrorism?

Yeah, because that's what you see with your eyes. Another pair of eyes may see our invasion of Iraq as terrorism as well. "Shock and awe." What were those words and that action supposeed to do? Imbed fear. It's a form of terrorism.


Religious Terrorism?

I do fully agree that the Iraq War is an act of Terrorism and everyone who initiated it should be brought up on war crimes along with the whole Israeli Govt. too

You and I may not see it as religious terrorism, but others may.
 

dmcowen674

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This should get it's own thread but is all part of the same thing that muslims want all christians dead.

10-29-2005 Three teenage christian girls beheaded in Indonesia by muslims

JAKARTA - Men in black clothes and masks beheaded three teenage Christian girls on Saturday in eastern Indonesia as they walked to school near the Muslim town of Poso, officials said.

Poso, 1,500 km (900 miles) northeast of the capital Jakarta, is in an area where Muslim-Christian clashes killed 2,000 people until a peace deal was agreed in 2001.




 

beyoku

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.



Is it just an illusion that there seem to be so many incidents of muslim terrorism .. versus other religiously motivated terrorism?

exactly, americans have commited more terrorist acts in the in america than all othe groups combined probably.
 

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Originally posted by: dahunan

Religious Terrorism?

I do fully agree that the Iraq War is an act of Terrorism and everyone who initiated it should be brought up on war crimes along with the whole Israeli Govt. too

As long as you wish to tie in governments, how about the PLO, and Israel's as well as the Arab terror organizations sponsors.

Lets go after every one, not cherry pick because of bleeding hearts.

 
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Originally posted by: beyoku
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.



Is it just an illusion that there seem to be so many incidents of muslim terrorism .. versus other religiously motivated terrorism?

exactly, americans have commited more terrorist acts in the in america than all othe groups combined probably.



and what religion would america exactly be?
 

imported_Tango

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Wow. You know... reading some of these posts my first impression is that the terrorists ARE indeed winning this war.

What part of the situation you don't understand? India and pakistan have beein collaborating together after the earthquake. Obviously there's quite some people who don't like this relaxed relation between the two countries. When a conflict becomes cronique, some people start getting benefits out of it. Who did this is probably a radical muslim. I wouldn't bet that they were pakistani only. The group could easily include indians as well. You have people wanting the tension over Kashmir in both sides, because they benefit from it.
Do you remember who killed Rabin? And why? It wasn't a muslim. An Israeli extremist. Exactly when it seemed that a suitable peace process was possible in palestine. I wouldn't consider the fact that he was an israeli jew the reason why he decided to murder his own president. I consider the fact that he was an extremist, not interested in peace.

But again: radical muslims. Muslim extremists. It's funny that people keep focusing on the muslim part, instead of focusing on the extremist part, or the radical part of the concept.
If you forget to think in these terms you end with statements like the ones posted here: Muslims hate us. Kinda general, isn't it?

That's exactly what an extremist would love the most. The less we understand the situation, the less we'll be able to fight the problem. When IRA was bombing in northern ireland did you focus on their religion? Nope. They were irredentists. Separationists. And, eventually, catholics. Did you think at that time that EVERY catholic in the world was ready to place bombs in the streets? No way. Extremists do this kind of things.

The point is not being muslim, or jew or christian. Is being and extremist determined to use terrorism for your own political agenda. or do you think that the people going to the mosque in Harlem spend the rest of the week thinking about placing bombs on the 'A' train? what about the Afghan guy working at the restaurant at the corner of Columbus Ave. and 105th street? He's a muslim... so how comes he's the most pacific guy I ever met in my life? What about the thousands of muslims teaching in the universities all around the country? Are they potential terrorists?

When you read muslim extremists, focus on the word extremist, instead of the word muslim.

Terrorism must be eradicated no matter what... but it's going to be much harder if we do not understand the phenomenon.

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: dahunan

Religious Terrorism?

I do fully agree that the Iraq War is an act of Terrorism and everyone who initiated it should be brought up on war crimes along with the whole Israeli Govt. too

As long as you wish to tie in governments, how about the PLO, and Israel's as well as the Arab terror organizations sponsors.

Lets go after every one, not cherry pick because of bleeding hearts.


I fully agree and wish it would happen.. but alas.. the most powerful are the only ones who get to define what terrorism is and is not
 

beyoku

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Originally posted by: beyoku
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.



Is it just an illusion that there seem to be so many incidents of muslim terrorism .. versus other religiously motivated terrorism?

exactly, americans have commited more terrorist acts in the in america than all othe groups combined probably.

take a guess.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

I'd be dollars to doughnuts it was more Muslim extremists.

How could you assume the Religion of Peace would ever commit acts like this?!

You're right. Clearly, it was those radical Buddhist extremists who did this. No, it was the Druids who were responsible. That's it..
 

computeerrgghh

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Nothing new. My relatives in Jammu live near border security all the time. Its funny how little some people know about any terrorism outside of what has happened to the US
 
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Originally posted by: computeerrgghh
Nothing new. My relatives in Jammu live near border security all the time. Its funny how little some people know about any terrorism outside of what has happened to the US

yeah and now they are suddenly experts on it.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

I'd be dollars to doughnuts it was more Muslim extremists.

How could you assume the Religion of Peace would ever commit acts like this?!

You're right. Clearly, it was those radical Buddhist extremists who did this. No, it was the Druids who were responsible. That's it..

Someone already made a pretty clear point why it could have been some random non-Muslim Indian, I suggest you scroll up and read it.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

I'd be dollars to doughnuts it was more Muslim extremists.

How could you assume the Religion of Peace would ever commit acts like this?!

You're right. Clearly, it was those radical Buddhist extremists who did this. No, it was the Druids who were responsible. That's it..

Someone already made a pretty clear point why it could have been some random non-Muslim Indian, I suggest you scroll up and read it.

I'm willing to bet this was a Muslim Pakistani or Indian.

We will see. Every attack in India has been by a Muslim.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Tango
Wow. You know... reading some of these posts my first impression is that the terrorists ARE indeed winning this war.

What part of the situation you don't understand? India and pakistan have beein collaborating together after the earthquake. Obviously there's quite some people who don't like this relaxed relation between the two countries. When a conflict becomes cronique, some people start getting benefits out of it. Who did this is probably a radical muslim. I wouldn't bet that they were pakistani only. The group could easily include indians as well. You have people wanting the tension over Kashmir in both sides, because they benefit from it.
Do you remember who killed Rabin? And why? It wasn't a muslim. An Israeli extremist. Exactly when it seemed that a suitable peace process was possible in palestine. I wouldn't consider the fact that he was an israeli jew the reason why he decided to murder his own president. I consider the fact that he was an extremist, not interested in peace.

But again: radical muslims. Muslim extremists. It's funny that people keep focusing on the muslim part, instead of focusing on the extremist part, or the radical part of the concept.
If you forget to think in these terms you end with statements like the ones posted here: Muslims hate us. Kinda general, isn't it?

That's exactly what an extremist would love the most. The less we understand the situation, the less we'll be able to fight the problem. When IRA was bombing in northern ireland did you focus on their religion? Nope. They were irredentists. Separationists. And, eventually, catholics. Did you think at that time that EVERY catholic in the world was ready to place bombs in the streets? No way. Extremists do this kind of things.

The point is not being muslim, or jew or christian. Is being and extremist determined to use terrorism for your own political agenda. or do you think that the people going to the mosque in Harlem spend the rest of the week thinking about placing bombs on the 'A' train? what about the Afghan guy working at the restaurant at the corner of Columbus Ave. and 105th street? He's a muslim... so how comes he's the most pacific guy I ever met in my life? What about the thousands of muslims teaching in the universities all around the country? Are they potential terrorists?

When you read muslim extremists, focus on the word extremist, instead of the word muslim.

Terrorism must be eradicated no matter what... but it's going to be much harder if we do not understand the phenomenon.

Didn't a similar thing happen to Gandhi? He tried to unite Hindus and Muslims in the region, and he was killed by a Hindu extremist who didn't want that to happen...at least as far as I remember. Some people simply don't want to get along, I guess.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.

I never said anything heinous about Muslims. But the fact that they are attacking so many countries across the globe does point to a trend.

"Muslims" aren't attacking anyone, as someone else mentioned, they are Muslim extremists and for some reason everyone focuses on the first word instead of the second. That was what I was saying, instead of getting mad at Muslims who are actually doing these things, people fly off the handle and rant and rave about all Muslims, like there is some sort of vast conspiracy going on, when anyone with more than two neurons knows that, like any large group, attatitudes and actions of Muslims are widely varied.

Actually, it's a very similar attitude to that of the terrorists, if a little less extreme. But the basic idea is the same, instead of the enemy being the person who attacks you, your enemy is their entire religious or cultural group, regardless of whether or not they bear any responsibility. Get mugged by a black theif, join the KKK. Pissed off at American foreign policy, kill some random people working in an office building. Attacked by radical Muslims, hate the entire religion.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This should get it's own thread but is all part of the same thing that muslims want all christians dead.

10-29-2005 Three teenage christian girls beheaded in Indonesia by muslims

JAKARTA - Men in black clothes and masks beheaded three teenage Christian girls on Saturday in eastern Indonesia as they walked to school near the Muslim town of Poso, officials said.

Poso, 1,500 km (900 miles) northeast of the capital Jakarta, is in an area where Muslim-Christian clashes killed 2,000 people until a peace deal was agreed in 2001.

Where are the Iranian thugs who said that the world would be better off with Israel on this? Has Iran commented on this? Has Iran denounced their fellow muslims killing people all over the world? No, they simply want Israel off the map. How cute!

I think it was Powell a few years ago saying India should show restraint after India got bombed. This is nothing new, the Indian parliament was bombed by Pakistan-backed muslim extremist terrorists a few months after 9/11. Imagine that, a group of muslim extremists attack the US Capitol building ... how would be respond? India showed a lot of restraint by not going after Pakistan with all its military might.

Musharaff and his government have been saying all along that they give only moral support to the terrorists. I kind of doubt that. The Pakistan ISI is infiltrated by muslim extremists from top to bottom. Its kind of sad that we focused on Afghanistan after 9/11 and called Pakistan our ally. But again, that is the American foreign of the past few decades.
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This thread reveals so much about the state of mind of some people. Instead of expression sorrow that many innocent people died, or suggesting that those who did it should be brought to justice, this is just an opportunity to bash Islam. Not even just the Muslim terrorists, all Muslims and their entire religion. There is something wrong with you people.

I never said anything heinous about Muslims. But the fact that they are attacking so many countries across the globe does point to a trend.

"Muslims" aren't attacking anyone, as someone else mentioned, they are Muslim extremists and for some reason everyone focuses on the first word instead of the second. That was what I was saying, instead of getting mad at Muslims who are actually doing these things, people fly off the handle and rant and rave about all Muslims, like there is some sort of vast conspiracy going on, when anyone with more than two neurons knows that, like any large group, attatitudes and actions of Muslims are widely varied.

Actually, it's a very similar attitude to that of the terrorists, if a little less extreme. But the basic idea is the same, instead of the enemy being the person who attacks you, your enemy is their entire religious or cultural group, regardless of whether or not they bear any responsibility. Get mugged by a black theif, join the KKK. Pissed off at American foreign policy, kill some random people working in an office building. Attacked by radical Muslims, hate the entire religion.

People are free-associating Islam with terrorism not because the vilest terror attacks are by muslims but because the feeblest voices of oppostion against these attacks are by muslims. Actually, that explanation is applicable to all the examples you gave. If the American policy were more obviously cognizant of its pro-Israel slant, perhaps some office building would not have been attacked. If black leaders were more honest about the crime rates in their community, perhaps you would be disinclined to join the KKK and so on and so forth.
 
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