Tesla Cybertruck

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WelshBloke

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Has parts falling off been a recall on any other vehicle, at any other time? Recall's are usually for non obvious problems that pop up over time, not "I didn't put my shit together right". Hillbilly engineering at luxury prices.
Thats a big bit of "trim" to be glued on! I get that glueing on smaller bits of plastic trim is normal but is glueing large bits of steel panel on normal?

Also didn't the roof fall off a Tesla a while ago? Was that a thing?
 

Kaido

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lxskllr

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Some of that shit... The accelerator pedal really stands out to me. Why does a "luxury" vehicle even have a trim cover over the pedals? That should be milled aluminum, or at least cast and polished. That shit looks like some ghetto PepBoys aftermarket crap.
 

Kaido

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Why does a "luxury" vehicle even have a trim cover over the pedals?

Personally, I don't consider Teslas to be luxury cars. They are premium & premium-priced electric vehicles from a battery range, performance, and technology POV. Something like an electric Mercedes-Benz EQE would be more of a luxury EV to me: (i.e. non-spartan interior, higher-end creature comforts, etc.)



 

lxskllr

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If I'm paying $100k for a vehicle(LoL!), it damned well better be luxury. If it isn't traditional luxury, it should be a best in class truck. A feasible military grade truck that's virtually unstoppable by anything. Does that sound like the CT? Don't get caught in a heavy rain storm! :^D
 

Kaido

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If it isn't traditional luxury, it should be a best in class truck.

Dude, my buddy's F-250 work truck is nicer than a Cadillac lol. Check out the inside of the F-350 King Ranch:


Two-tone leather interior:



Optional monster 12" touchscreen:



Power remote-control tailgate:

 
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lxskllr

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Yea, there's some fancy trucks out there. Not really what I'm into. I like basic work trucks. Rubber floors, extended(NOT crew) cab, and 4x4 is everything I want.
 

Red Squirrel

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Yea, there's some fancy trucks out there. Not really what I'm into. I like basic work trucks. Rubber floors, extended(NOT crew) cab, and 4x4 is everything I want.

I wish they still made simple trucks like that, like the 90's square bodies. Seems everything is luxery now at luxery prices. You can custom order a long box single cab, but it's still like 50-60k now for that. Squarebodies in the 90's were like what, 20k at most? They need to make something in that price range an option. Even if it's like manual everything, windows, seats etc. And no fancy electronics.
 

KMFJD

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do not get behind one of these pos when it's towing stuff

 

MrSquished

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I think Hitler would be ashamed of the Cyber truck. I think he'd expect the future Nazi leaders to do a better job. But that's Elon, when his bad decisions are not insulated by a strong management team, this is the shit he produces.

The Nazi German cars had to get hit by American tank rounds for pieces to fall off. For Nazi Musk, that shit just happens while driving.

Hitler is rolling over in his grave.
 

Red Squirrel

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do not get behind one of these pos when it's towing stuff


Seems to me cast aluminium is definitely a bad idea for a frame and they should have done more testing before hand. It was a neat idea in concept, but it clearly is not working out. Should have done like Ford where they still use steel frame and just have large isolators between frame and body. (don't want dissimilar metals touching)

For how much they charge for this thing they really should make a new model that addresses all the issues and give a large discount to any existing owners to trade it in.
 
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sdifox

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Seems to me cast aluminium is definitely a bad idea for a frame and they should have done more testing before hand. It was a neat idea in concept, but it clearly is not working out. Should have done like Ford where they still use steel frame and just have large isolators between frame and body. (don't want dissimilar metals touching)

For how much they charge for this thing they really should make a new model that addresses all the issues and give a large discount to any existing owners to trade it in.


Issue is not aluminum. Issue is structural design and well, too cheap. They decided stainless steel skin is more important than a strong frame.
 
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Kaido

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Possible glue batch issue:



Tomasko estimates that he has wrapped "30 to 35" Cybertrucks. He tells R&T that he has seen signs of adhesive problems on "five to seven" trucks, including his own truck with a VIN around 15000 and the customer unit in the video. He estimates that relatively new trucks with "VINs from 30,000 up to 60,000" seem to be more frequently impacted, and notes that he has not seen the problem on earlier trucks, "probably VIN 3000 to 10,000."















 

KMFJD

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Kaido

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Not looking good:

1. A used CT is currently worth less than 58% on the used market
2. Less than 39k were sold in 2024
3. Time will tell how the glued-on panels & cast aluminum frame hold up (especially with towing!)


The Cybertruck v1 already struggled with being an overly-expensive ugly duckling, which already creates limited market appeal, but I think the recent political maneuvers may have sealed its fate. Marketing 101 is "don't sell what the product does, sell what the product does for you." For many people, their car represents their image, and many people are stating that they are embarrassed to drive a Tesla because of Elon's behavior, which puts them at risk of harassment & vandalism (the Cybertruck line, in particular).

Politics aside, as a vehicle, the entire CT assembly line & Giga Presses are devoted to the current design. It seems like there would be some serious costs involved in updating the design, which the current sales numbers don't justify. Market-wise, JP Morgan put a price target of $120 (which I still consider to be over-valued) & it's estimated that Tesla will report a poor quarter due to declining shipments. In a recent poll, 53% of Americans have a negative view on Musk, which is affecting sales. So, I don't foresee any major changes being made due to the current sales & financial situation.

As a marketing guy, Musk's ability to hype the vision of Tesla has been what's propped everything up. Tesla's reputation has gone down the tubes in just 3 months. I have no idea the future will hold for Tesla & for the Cybertruck.

While Tesla is still the best-selling electric vehicle brand in the US, competition is heating up, and Musk’s right-wing authoritarian turn appears to be doing real damage.

Prices on pre-owned Teslas are falling at more than double the rate of the average car, according to research by CarGurus. Used cars overall have fallen 2.7% year over year, while used Teslas have declined 7.3%. A used Cybertruck, Tesla’s head-scratching experiment in car design that looks like it was based on a dare, is worth a whopping 58% less on the resale market.

Another report from Cars.com found that while searches for non-Tesla EVs were up 12% year-over-year last month, searches for Teslas have fallen 7%.

“We struggle to think of anything analogous in the history of the automotive industry, in which a brand has lost so much value so quickly,” wrote JPMorgan analysts in a note to clients last week.
 
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