Tesla Cybertruck

[Vic]

My 2 cents is that the Cybertruck is amazing tech a decade ahead of its time in horrendous and hideous packaging. Not just because it's ugly but because it's impractical for anything but a status symbol.
And maybe that was Musk's goal, and it probably will sell (it's certainly going to dominate local drag strips already ruined by diesel trucks), but I'm going to hold off and continue to let others be the first adopters.

 

[bbhaag]

From an engineering standpoint, for a mass-produced publically sold product, it's best to use as much off-the-shelf existing hardware as possible. In both design for manufacturing and for ease of replacement.

Jim Farley addressed this practice in a recent podcast. There is nothing wrong with it but it might not be the way forward for automotive manufacturers.

From the article.

Ford CEO Jim Farley recently touched on this topic during an interview on the Fully Charged Podcast. The answer boils down to a deep-rooted manufacturing and procurement process long utilized by legacy automakers: outsourcing components.

Ford CEO Explains Why Legacy Automakers Take Forever to Issue OTA Updates

Ford CEO Jim Farley explains that automakers are struggling to quickly issue OTA updates because of due to outsourcing vehicle components.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Kaido]

LOL

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cybertruck-spare-tire-_-tool-kit

 

[sdifox]

LOL

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cybertruck-spare-tire-_-tool-kit

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That is not that expensive. However, most cars come with a spare, albeit a doughnut.

 

[WelshBloke]

LOL

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cybertruck-spare-tire-_-tool-kit

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That's... That's. Well it's not a cheap spare tyre.

You get a cover though!

 

[Kaido]

My 2 cents is that the Cybertruck is amazing tech a decade ahead of its time in horrendous and hideous packaging. Not just because it's ugly but because it's impractical for anything but a status symbol.
And maybe that was Musk's goal, and it probably will sell (it's certainly going to dominate local drag strips already ruined by diesel trucks), but I'm going to hold off and continue to let others be the first adopters.

I'm curious about how well it's going to sell by not competing on price or range. If they had come out with a $40k or $50k base & a 500-mile option, those are both VERY compelling reasons to get one. Now you just have a weird-looking design that costs the same as everyone else & goes as far as everyone else, so you have to either want the design, a Tesla, or specific features on the truck.

For me, $96k for a 470-mile truck is...not super appealing lol. $1,600/mo is more than my rent lol.

 

[Kaido]

That is not that expensive. However, most cars come with a spare, albeit a doughnut.

My first car back in the early 2,000's was $2,400 lol

 

[Kaido]

The idea of throwing a Cybertruck around a bunch of windy lanes round here is giving me anxiety! And I spend a lot of the summer months throwing a mini around those lanes, I know them quite well!

There were a couple driving reviews on windy roads & they mentioned how well the truck handled the corners due to the weight, low CG, and whatever suspension magic was going on under the hood.

I want to test-drive it! I don't want to be an early adopter tho haha

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm curious about how well it's going to sell by not competing on price or range. If they had come out with a $40k or $50k base & a 500-mile option, those are both VERY compelling reasons to get one. Now you just have a weird-looking design that costs the same as everyone else & goes as far as everyone else, so you have to either want the design, a Tesla, or specific features on the truck.

For me, $96k for a 470-mile truck is...not super appealing lol. $1,600/mo is more than my rent lol.

I mean you're assuming that they want to sell a ton of them. They are probably better off concentrating on the cars they have, then later on releasing a more conventional truck. Then Musk has the out of saying that the Cybertruck was an ahead of it's time consept.

 

[WelshBloke]

There were a couple driving reviews on windy roads & they mentioned how well the truck handled the corners due to the weight, low CG, and whatever suspension magic was going on under the hood.

I want to test-drive it! I don't want to be an early adopter tho haha

See all I've ever seen is YouTube reviewers getting hysterical about straight line acceleration. I've not read anything by a car journalist with some experience of lots of cars talking about Cybertruck handling.

 

[bbhaag]

That is not that expensive. However, most cars come with a spare, albeit a doughnut.

Agreed, if I want a OEM full size spare for my Mach-E it would cost about the same.......except that Ford doesn't even offer one. The Mach-E doesn't even come with a doughnut just a can of fix a flat and a tire inflator. If that doesn't work then I'm stuck calling for a tow.

It's always fun to poke at Tesla until you realize that legacy manufacturers are doing the same or less......

 

[WelshBloke]

Agreed, if I want a OEM full size spare for my Mach-E it would cost about the same.......except that Ford doesn't even offer one. The Mach-E doesn't even come with a doughnut just a can of fix a flat and a tire inflator. If that doesn't work then I'm stuck calling for a tow.

A steel wheel and tyre costs £1k?

 

[sdifox]

Agreed, if I want a OEM full size spare for my Mach-E it would cost about the same.......except that Ford doesn't even offer one. The Mach-E doesn't even come with a doughnut just a can of fix a flat and a tire inflator. If that doesn't work then I'm stuck calling for a tow.

It's always fun to poke at Tesla until you realize that legacy manufacturers are doing the same or less......

Wow, that is bad. Need to check on spare status when I get my EV.

 

[sdifox]

A steel wheel and tyre costs £1k?

Not all that outrageous really. Factory rims and tires have always been expensive. It also comes with hydraulic jack, tool and gloves.

Go price out tires for similar price range cars.

 

[bbhaag]

See all I've ever seen is YouTube reviewers getting hysterical about straight line acceleration. I've not read anything by a car journalist with some experience of lots of cars talking about Cybertruck handling.

Probably because it's a truck....wait my bad....probably because it's a lorry and they aren't exactly known for their handling ability.

 

[bbhaag]

A steel wheel and tyre costs £1k?

The link Kaido posted is for a stock OEM rim not a steel rim. It also comes with the OEM tire. If I wanted that for a Mach-E I would have to purchase 4 OEM rims and a tire. A set of four OEM Mach-E rims for my trim is $1700 plus $300 for the tire.

Yes I might be able to sell the extra 3 OEM rims but honestly it would be at a steep discount because who only buys 3 rims? I would have to part them out and list them on message forums them box them up and then ship them most likely at my cost.....uggg no thank you.

 

[WelshBloke]

Probably because it's a truck....wait my bad....probably because it's a lorry and they aren't exactly known for their handling ability.

But lorrys are sold on their 0to60?

The abilities to turn corners and brake are far more important than straight line acceleration yes?
You were ok with Musk bigging up the acceleration like it matters in a truck but you're not ok with me bringing up corners and braking?

 

[WelshBloke]

The link Kaido posted is for a stock OEM rim not a steel rim.

They have alloy wheels and hubcaps? That's a weird design choice.

 

[sdifox]

They have alloy wheels and hubcaps? That's a weird design choice.

Steel alloy, but it does have a unique design so cost more. The tire alone is around 450.

 

[bbhaag]

But lorrys are sold on their 0to60?

The abilities to turn corners and brake are far more important than straight line acceleration yes?
You were ok with Musk bigging up the acceleration like it matters in a truck but you're not ok with me bringing up corners and braking?

I was just having a little fun with the language differences between the US and UK.
No offence was meant. You are correct straight line acceleration isn't really important for a truck.
I don't remember saying anything about Musk when it comes to the acceleration of the CT but if I did it was probably in passing.

They have alloy wheels and hubcaps? That's a weird design choice.

Again sorry for the confusion. In my neck of the woods when some says steel wheels I think of this.

Not this.

 

[WelshBloke]

I was just having a little fun with the language differences between the US and UK.
No offence was meant. You are correct straight line acceleration isn't really important for a truck.
I don't remember saying anything about Musk when it comes to the acceleration of the CT but if I did it was probably in passing.

No offence taken! At all! I just always find it weird how people always make it a positive thing about how something might accelerate but not care if it can decelerate in any way!

Again sorry for the confusion. In my neck of the woods when some says steel wheels I think of this.

Not this.

 

[Kaido]

See all I've ever seen is YouTube reviewers getting hysterical about straight line acceleration. I've not read anything by a car journalist with some experience of lots of cars talking about Cybertruck handling.

The only Tesla I haven't driven is the Plaid model, which goes zero to 60 in 1.99 seconds. The top-end Model 3 does it in 3.1 seconds. The X Plaid can do it in 2.5 seconds (going that fast in a 5,000-pound SUV is pretty hilarious!). But tbh...it seems like the novelty would wear off after you do it a few times & show it off to everyone you know. I got a lot of flack for having a 4-cylinder Mustang, but the Ecoboost pulls a respectable 5.1 seconds, which for me, coming from vehicles like Saturn sedans & Kia Souls, was like driving a rocket ship LOL.

 

[Kaido]

I mean you're assuming that they want to sell a ton of them. They are probably better off concentrating on the cars they have, then later on releasing a more conventional truck. Then Musk has the out of saying that the Cybertruck was an ahead of it's time consept.

The more I watch the BTS of the Cybertruck, the more amazed I am at it as a highly advanced, albeit ugly (I say that with love, haha), vehicle. They've really done some phenomenal things to it. But it definitely seems like they've switched marketing strategies, for sure...no cheap model, no mega-range model, no "we're gonna stamp so many of these out" rah-rah's anymore, etc.

I'm not an attention person & tbh I don't think I'd enjoy living with all of the attention having a Cybertruck would entail. That may be over-imagining it, but I'm betting for at least the few first years, people are going to want to stop & talk to you all the time about it lol.

 

[Kaido]

Agreed, if I want a OEM full size spare for my Mach-E it would cost about the same.......except that Ford doesn't even offer one. The Mach-E doesn't even come with a doughnut just a can of fix a flat and a tire inflator. If that doesn't work then I'm stuck calling for a tow.

It's always fun to poke at Tesla until you realize that legacy manufacturers are doing the same or less......

Holy moly, over $500 shipped for a spare tire!!

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[Kaido]

The link Kaido posted is for a stock OEM rim not a steel rim. It also comes with the OEM tire. If I wanted that for a Mach-E I would have to purchase 4 OEM rims and a tire. A set of four OEM Mach-E rims for my trim is $1700 plus $300 for the tire.

Yes I might be able to sell the extra 3 OEM rims but honestly it would be at a steep discount because who only buys 3 rims? I would have to part them out and list them on message forums them box them up and then ship them most likely at my cost.....uggg no thank you.

To be fair, the Mach-E weighs between 4,000 & almost 5,000 pounds, so the rims have to carry all of that extra weight, so an upcharge for that makes a little bit more sense financially. But DANG man!