Tesla Cybertruck

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Kaido

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As an introvert...I don't think I could cope with the attention LOL

 

Kaido

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Garage fit. I guess the redesign to make it a bit smaller DID make sense:


Absolutely LOVE the STEK DYNOchrome-black matte PPF:


* Chrome paint protection film
* Metallic black color with a satin-matte finish
* Acts as a clear bra & PPF (rock-chip resistant) with 8-mil TPU plastic (non-vinyl)
* Hydrophobic
* Self-healing
* 10-year warranty against delamination, yellowing, bubbling, and cracking



They did a turning radius video the other day:


Look how bad the stainless steel already looks lol...I definitely like how uniform the TPU PPF wrap above looks better:

 

Kaido

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White Cybertruck:


Not a fan. I like the matte chrome the best so far, followed by the metallic matte green. The matte black is okay & I don't like the gloss black. The white just looks...unrendered lol.



 

Kaido

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First aftermarket patterned wrap I've seen. Kitchen backsplash edition!







 

Kaido

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“Sub-10 micron accuracy”


"When in doubt, ship it out!"

I'm sure the pressure to get these out the door must be IMMENSE. But like...this is probably one of the first dozen vehicles delivered. Their factory looks absolutely incredible in motion. They really need a final, out-the-door inspection person to prevent PR nightmares like this from happening. I remember when the 3 & Y were coming out, the online community whipped up a "Delivery 2.0 Checklist" & so many cars got sent back for repair after failing to meet basic new-car-delivery criteria.

Tesla is a weird company due to stuff like this. Like, they've yo-yo'd the price so much that people are angry about the resale value. Between the massive price variations & the high cost to repair, Hertz is dumping 20,000 of their EV fleet (mostly Teslas), some for as low as $21k:


 

WelshBloke

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“Sub-10 micron accuracy”


"When in doubt, ship it out!"

I'm sure the pressure to get these out the door must be IMMENSE. But like...this is probably one of the first dozen vehicles delivered. Their factory looks absolutely incredible in motion. They really need a final, out-the-door inspection person to prevent PR nightmares like this from happening. I remember when the 3 & Y were coming out, the online community whipped up a "Delivery 2.0 Checklist" & so many cars got sent back for repair after failing to meet basic new-car-delivery criteria.

Tesla is a weird company due to stuff like this. Like, they've yo-yo'd the price so much that people are angry about the resale value. Between the massive price variations & the high cost to repair, Hertz is dumping 20,000 of their EV fleet (mostly Teslas), some for as low as $21k:


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Thats not a panel gap, that looks like its caught on something and been torn off!
If it was shipped like that theres no excuse, its not like they are producing so many they cant inspect them!

Obviously Musk is using those imperial microns!
 
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MrSquished

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Have seen multiple posts where people are posting their real world range with the CT is really around 200 miles.

Now we have a towing example, 87 effective miles using 75% of battery

 
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IronWing

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TBH, the hood on every car I've ever owned would do as much. Reminds me that I need to replace the gas struts on the FJ hood.
 
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Zorba

Lifer
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TBH, the hood on every car I've ever owned would do as much. Reminds me that I need to replace the gas struts on the FJ hood.
This is basically an electric open/close truck hatch, though. I've been hit in the head my multiples of those and they always go back up. Not sure if they would from a carrot right at hing line though.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Apparently Elon lied about the Cybertruck vs 911 drag race. He said it could beat the 911 over the 1/4 mile, but it was actually just the 1/8 mile. Still impressive, obviously, but more evidence you can't trust anything that windbag says.

 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Apparently Elon lied about the Cybertruck vs 911 drag race. He said it could beat the 911 over the 1/4 mile, but it was actually just the 1/8 mile. Still impressive, obviously, but more evidence you can't trust anything that windbag says.

I disagree, I find his racist tweets highly trustworthy.
 

bbhaag

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The more involved Elon is in a product, the more bullshit it is. What a ripoff product

Here is all the updates that EE posted after the video went live. I'm sure the Verge did there due diligence and updated their article to reflect this new information...

*Important Update!* I asked MotorTrend for their 1/8th mile time for the 2023 Porsche 911 Carrera T (7MT). They confirmed it at 8.0 seconds and 93.1 mph. That's FASTER than the Tesla towing a 911 did it (~8.25s), and ~0.38 seconds FASTER than the Porsche 911 alone did it in Tesla's video. This implies the 911 beats the Cybertruck (while towing) in the 1/8th, as well. So... what's up with the 911's slow time in the video?
Worth repeating - 911 T is the slowest current gen hard top 911, so it's the best one to use as reference against the video.

*Important Update 2!* Cybertruck's lead engineer, Wes Morrill, has tweeted additional information: "Love the detailed breakdown @jasonfenske13 - well done! One underlying assumption, which is what any reasonable engineer would assume: the video showed was the best run. It was not. But it was the most dramatic finish. So "why didn't we do a full 1/4mi?" The fastest 1/8mi CT hit while towing on the day was 7.808s at 88mph and the trailer tires were only rated to 80mph so we opted to call it a day before someone got hurt. Our simulations showed the full 1/4 mi race would be close but with the same net result, so no need to risk it. We also had some room to further lightweight the trailer but didn't need to. I'm glad this is so unbelievable that people care to do this analysis." https://x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551?s=20

*Edit 1:* Some folks have issue with the assumption of linear acceleration for the remaining 1/8th mile. Let's talk about it!
First off, that's a very fair thing to have issue with. My intention was not to provide an exact measurement of the 1/4 mile time, but rather to show that it is not as close to 12.3 sec as it may seem in the first half of the assessment. Hence, I used a "~" when showing the "final" quarter mile time, though I should have been more clear about this. There absolutely won't be linear acceleration, so there is some play with this number. However, let's use the Cybertruck alone as an example since we have all the numbers. 99 mph at the 1/8th, and 119 mph at the 1/4. We know it did this in 4.06 seconds. Using linear acceleration to guesstimate the time required, you would get 4.13 seconds (0.125 mi / 109 mph avg speed * 3600s/hr = 4.128 seconds). 4.06 and 4.13 are pretty close (both rounding to 4.1 seconds). Using this methodology won't give you an exact answer, it's just closer to reality than saying "it can't do it in 12.3 seconds, the end." Also, this is assuming the towing Cybertruck maintains strong acceleration above 88 mph, a challenging feat when the aerodynamic drag of both cars is going to be very significant. This little tid-bit at the end was meant as a "let's get closer to the real number" so we can confidently say it would or would not win in the 1/4 mile, because 12.2 vs 12.3 looks like it could be a toss up, whereas in reality the gap is more meaningful. Hope this info helps!

*Edit 2:* Some folks wanted to know where 24 FPS (frames per second) came from.
24 FPS is a very common speed for cinema & pro shoots in North America. You can easily download the Tesla video and check for yourself. However, for those who want to see proof, I've uploaded a video so you can see the frames counted: https://x.com/jasonfenske13/status/1746202913712836968?s=20
 

MrSquished

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Here is all the updates that EE posted after the video went live. I'm sure the Verge did there due diligence and updated their article to reflect this new information...

*Important Update!* I asked MotorTrend for their 1/8th mile time for the 2023 Porsche 911 Carrera T (7MT). They confirmed it at 8.0 seconds and 93.1 mph. That's FASTER than the Tesla towing a 911 did it (~8.25s), and ~0.38 seconds FASTER than the Porsche 911 alone did it in Tesla's video. This implies the 911 beats the Cybertruck (while towing) in the 1/8th, as well. So... what's up with the 911's slow time in the video?
Worth repeating - 911 T is the slowest current gen hard top 911, so it's the best one to use as reference against the video.

*Important Update 2!* Cybertruck's lead engineer, Wes Morrill, has tweeted additional information: "Love the detailed breakdown @jasonfenske13 - well done! One underlying assumption, which is what any reasonable engineer would assume: the video showed was the best run. It was not. But it was the most dramatic finish. So "why didn't we do a full 1/4mi?" The fastest 1/8mi CT hit while towing on the day was 7.808s at 88mph and the trailer tires were only rated to 80mph so we opted to call it a day before someone got hurt. Our simulations showed the full 1/4 mi race would be close but with the same net result, so no need to risk it. We also had some room to further lightweight the trailer but didn't need to. I'm glad this is so unbelievable that people care to do this analysis." https://x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551?s=20

*Edit 1:* Some folks have issue with the assumption of linear acceleration for the remaining 1/8th mile. Let's talk about it!
First off, that's a very fair thing to have issue with. My intention was not to provide an exact measurement of the 1/4 mile time, but rather to show that it is not as close to 12.3 sec as it may seem in the first half of the assessment. Hence, I used a "~" when showing the "final" quarter mile time, though I should have been more clear about this. There absolutely won't be linear acceleration, so there is some play with this number. However, let's use the Cybertruck alone as an example since we have all the numbers. 99 mph at the 1/8th, and 119 mph at the 1/4. We know it did this in 4.06 seconds. Using linear acceleration to guesstimate the time required, you would get 4.13 seconds (0.125 mi / 109 mph avg speed * 3600s/hr = 4.128 seconds). 4.06 and 4.13 are pretty close (both rounding to 4.1 seconds). Using this methodology won't give you an exact answer, it's just closer to reality than saying "it can't do it in 12.3 seconds, the end." Also, this is assuming the towing Cybertruck maintains strong acceleration above 88 mph, a challenging feat when the aerodynamic drag of both cars is going to be very significant. This little tid-bit at the end was meant as a "let's get closer to the real number" so we can confidently say it would or would not win in the 1/4 mile, because 12.2 vs 12.3 looks like it could be a toss up, whereas in reality the gap is more meaningful. Hope this info helps!

*Edit 2:* Some folks wanted to know where 24 FPS (frames per second) came from.
24 FPS is a very common speed for cinema & pro shoots in North America. You can easily download the Tesla video and check for yourself. However, for those who want to see proof, I've uploaded a video so you can see the frames counted: https://x.com/jasonfenske13/status/1746202913712836968?s=20
blah blah blah. the article is about more than that faked 1/4 mile race. and what a copout excuse - they sourced a porsche 911 and set all that up, but they couldn't be bothered to get better tires for the trailer? I'm amazed consumers give people like that a pass.

Fact is they bullshitted, their excuse is pathetic, and you didn't cover the other parts of the article about their bullshit range numbers and towing claims.

This 'truck' is for suckers that want to overpay for their manpeens. Nothing else.

No coating on the stainless steel, you gotta wipe everything off it right away or it could be corrosive. These trucks are not going to age well.

I find it amusing people can't call out Musk and this truck for what they are. So much bullshit surrounding this particular launch and the reality of it. Musk is so full of shit about so much stuff, I mean self-driving nonsense, like 5 years ago he said automated recall could bring your tesla to you from anywhere as long as it didn't cross country borders. Self-driving so many cars by years back. They charge for FSD but it's never been what he says it is, and is pretty damn dangerous to boot. He bullshits, this truck highly respresents that. It's amazing people would rather defend the lies to defend Musk and their entwined epeens.
 
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bbhaag

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And after all that, 0-60 and quarter mile times are still marketing stats for morons.
I tend to agree with you. 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times are very marketing centric but those stats do help sell vehicles so I can see why manufacturers still market them. A lot of vehicle stats are marketing centric though.

Do John and Jane Doe really need AWD in their CUV? Probably not but marketing tells them they do so they insist on it. Does John Doe really need a truck with 13 inches of ground clearance and 10K pound towing capacity when all he does it a 20 mile commute on asphalt? Probably not but marketing sold him on it.

The same can be said for a lot of modern features found on current vehicles though. Are these features really needed? Probably not but marketing does a damn fine job of convincing people that they do.

Anyway, this list could go on and on and while I won't go so far as to say these stats are for morons it does open up debate on what features are or are not really necessary in modern day vehicles.
 
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Greenman

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I tend to agree with you. 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times are very marketing centric but those stats do help sell vehicles so I can see why manufacturers still market them. A lot of vehicle stats are marketing centric though.

Do John and Jane Doe really need AWD in their CUV? Probably not but marketing tells them they do so they insist on it. Does John Doe really need a truck with 13 inches of ground clearance and 10K pound towing capacity when all he does it a 20 mile commute on asphalt? Probably not but marketing sold him on it.

The same can be said for a lot of modern features found on current vehicles though. Are these features really needed? Probably not but marketing does a damn fine job of convincing people that they do.

Anyway, this list could go on and on and while I won't go so far as to say these stats are for morons it does open up debate on what features are or are not really necessary in modern day vehicles.
The last really good feature added to cars was air conditioning. Most things after that are fashion accessory's.
 
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