I think it fits the bill for the majority of people that drive a truck to get to work. Not sure much the people that need a truck for work. I knew Tesla wouldn't offer a real work truck though, just for aerodynamic reasons.I was looking forward to an electric pickup, couldn't be more disappointed. This thing is an SUV with a small bed, and it's butt ugly.
Why not just build a proper truck that has some utility? I don't work in some post apocalyptic wasteland, I need a truck for the burbs.
If it does a sub 3 second 0-60, weighs a shit ton, and is made from solid 3mm steel I'd like to see the crash test results before I offer an opinion on safety!
"but we’ll need to come up with new body manufacturing methods, as it can’t be made using standard methods".
That line from Musk seems to indicate that they don't have the ability to actually build the vehicle.
Sounds like a good business model: reinvent the wheel."but we’ll need to come up with new body manufacturing methods, as it can’t be made using standard methods".
That line from Musk seems to indicate that they don't have the ability to actually build the vehicle.
In the old days, Mercedes would not allow body panel bends to be sharper than some value, because that made the steel look thicker and communicated a tank like quality. This has it for real.All current "trucks" look like clay flower pots. Old, fragile and boring.
This cybertruck has been the change of world trends that has not happened for a loooong time, or ever.
In the old days, Mercedes would not allow body panel bends to be sharper than some value, because that made the steel look thicker and communicated a tank like quality. This has it for real.
Why do they need to build a truck with "utility"? I agree that it's a butt-ugly design, but you should consider what most people are buying pickups for: https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume
There is a reason wheels are round. Some things just don't need improving.All current "trucks" look like clay flower pots. Old, fragile and boring.
This cybertruck has been the change of world trends that has not happened for a loooong time, or ever.
I hardly think that was the point of the article. It was mainly to show that people's stated rationale for buying a pickup truck is often total BS (e.g., claims to need to tow or haul large objects). Buying a few long pieces of wood ≤1 time per year on average, is a stupid reason to buy a truck and I don't think society, who is bearing the external costs of these decisions, is doing enough to penalize these buyers. Some of the many costs of heavier vehicles are more road maintenance, they're more dangerous to vulnerable road users (pedestrians and bicyclists), they take up more space, necessitating larger parking areas, and they get way worse miles per gallon compared with a sedan (though, this won't be an issue with electrics).That's the typical stance of someone with an inferiority complex, suggesting they are better than confident males because of XYZ someone else does, trying to put others down instead of lifting themselves up.
If you are (he is) that worried about what someone else is doing, and it's not against the law, he needs a life. If that life is petitioning to change the laws, so be it, have fun with that instead of being a hater.
I don't need to assume anything about those truck drivers with empty beds. I can base my assumptions off the data I linked.^ That's the odd assumption, that if you see someone in a vehicle without a load, that MUST mean they hardly ever have a load. It's also a ridiculous stance because WTF business is it of someone else whether that person uses it to haul loads?
Gas taxes do not cover the entirety of road maintenance, so let's not even bother going down that road. And objectively, the average empty pickup truck is going to be heavier than a sedan.You have it completely wrong. Society shouldn't penalize anyone, but if it gets you all upset that they aren't as fuel efficient, then they are paying more gas tax to fund the road maintenance, a disproportionate amount of they aren't hauling a load so they aren't putting more wear on the roads.
They aren't more dangerous to supposed "vulnerable road users", on the contrary they sit up higher with a better view and distraction is the usual cause of accidents, not what vehicle you're driving provided it is not in an ill state of repair. A smaller ICE or EV sedan will still squash a pedestrian like a bug but trying to regulate passenger vehicle size still won't impact commercial vehicles. Making passenger vehicles smaller has historically shown to be more dangerous to the passengers of those vehicles.
We dedicate so much public space to private vehicle storage, that's why I care. Even private lots at stores - vast wastelands of asphalt for bigger and bigger vehicles.So what if they take up more space? That should delight you if you have a smaller vehicle, to make it easier for you to park, have more available parallel parking spaces too due to longer vehicles not fitting in tight spaces.
Pollution and climate change are everyone's problems. These vehicles don't exist in a vacuum. I'm not looking to ban them, but they should actually bear the costs they are imposing on society.So what if they get worse mileage? It comes back to being none of your business. Nobody wants you, or anyone else to micro manage their life. Maybe I think you use too much toilet paper and it's destroying the forest, but it's none of my business as long as you're paying for it.
FYGM, right?Clearly, it makes no sense to be wasteful in your life but point the finger at someone else. Fortunately we have the freedom to pay for whatever we want within legal limits.
There are lots of power generation methods that are zero-emission.... Maybe you are doing it too much and using too much power. Surely you didn't think power generation was zero emissions even if done the greenest way possible?
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They aren't more dangerous to supposed "vulnerable road users", on the contrary they sit up higher with a better view and distraction is the usual cause of accidents, not what vehicle you're driving provided it is not in an ill state of repair. A smaller ICE or EV sedan will still squash a pedestrian like a bug but trying to regulate passenger vehicle size still won't impact commercial vehicles. Making passenger vehicles smaller has historically shown to be more dangerous to the passengers of those vehicles.
I don't need to assume anything about those truck drivers with empty beds. I can base my assumptions off the data I linked.
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FYGM, right?
ok smarter than everyone else guy.....
what do you propose we do? ban all trucks? fine people that don't have a load in their truck when the cop sees them?
my use case.
fits 3 dogs ( total about 230 lbs) 4 pairs of skis, stuff for a week in the mountains and 2 people.
tow my tractor ~ 3500 lbs + implements somewhere on my flat bed trailer.
camp in our slide in camper
if we have to go somewhere on a winter day, we have about 15 inches of snow this morning, expecting another 5-10 today.
but most of the time its just me on my way to and from work getting about 18 mpg.
our other car is a volt and we fill up its 9 gallon tank about once a month on avg, just to keep it full.
whats your plan to make people with this kind of use case give up the things they do in life?
make it so expensive that only rich people can have a vehicle that will travel in 20 inches of snow or tow a trailer over a few thousand lbs?