I finally saw one yesterday too. Sadly it was only for a few seconds, as he was making a right, and I was going straight. I so want to see one up close now.
Unfortunately this isn't just a Cybertruck issue it is a modern vehicle issue. It doesn't matter if it is a traditional ICE vehicle, Hybrid, PHEV, or an EV. Repair costs are climbing and insurance providers are hesitant to repair them past a certain threshold of damage.A couple totaled CTs:
This is a totaled Tesla Cybertruck
A couple of Tesla Cybertrucks deemed “totaled”, a total loss, have shown up on auction sites as concerns about repair...electrek.co
That's a stretch, in regards to this case. Sure the insurance landscape has changed, but this? No you can't excuse this with that. This is yet another of the special CT characteristics.Unfortunately this isn't just a Cybertruck issue it is a modern vehicle issue. It doesn't matter if it is a traditional ICE vehicle, Hybrid, PHEV, or an EV. Repair costs are climbing and insurance providers are hesitant to repair them past a certain threshold of damage.
It's a truck though, it's supposed to take a few knocks!Unfortunately this isn't just a Cybertruck issue it is a modern vehicle issue. It doesn't matter if it is a traditional ICE vehicle, Hybrid, PHEV, or an EV. Repair costs are climbing and insurance providers are hesitant to repair them past a certain threshold of damage.
It's a truck though, it's supposed to take a few knocks!
For commercial vehicles as well?Once the airbags deploy on any vehicle for a collision, the likelihood of the vehicle being declared a total loss by insurance goes up considerably.
Are you talking about the difference between a F150 and F750? Both could be used commercially but obviously the F750 is built from the factory for commercial usage and is much larger than the F150.For commercial vehicles as well?
I was under the impression that trucks like the Cybertruck were classed as commercial vehicles and thus were exempt from some requirements that regular cars had to comply with?Are you talking about the difference between a F150 and F750? Both could be used commercially but obviously the F750 is built from the factory for commercial usage and is much larger than the F150.
I was under the impression that trucks like the Cybertruck were classed as commercial vehicles and thus were exempt from some requirements that regular cars had to comply with?
Like there are no crash tests for the Cybertruck that weren't internal Tesla ones.
I mean that article kinda agrees with the point I made about there being no outside third party crash testing.This article does a better job of explaining that situation than I can.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-crash-testing-situation-nhtsa-iihs/
I mean that article kinda agrees with the point I made about there being no outside third party crash testing.
Is that a normal thing for US cars in general?
When they say "Some vehicles are crash-tested directly by the NHTSA" how many vehicles do they mean?From the article.
The NHTSA does not “approve” new vehicles, but it establishes performance requirements that comply with FMVSS. Manufacturers certify compliance with these standards when they crash test internally. Some vehicles are crash-tested directly by the NHTSA, but the Cybertruck is not one of these vehicles. At least not yet
When they say "Some vehicles are crash-tested directly by the NHTSA" how many vehicles do they mean?
Also do you not find it a bit weird that cars don't have to get certified as safe by an official organisation before being let loose on the roads?
Well I'm trying to find out if the Cybertruck (and big trucks in general) don't have to do proper crash testing or if it's all vehicles.I thought we where talking about the CT being a Commercial vehicle or not. Have we moved on from that?
Well I'm trying to find out if the Cybertruck (and big trucks in general) don't have to do proper crash testing or if it's all vehicles.
One done by an independent official testing organisation where the methodology and results are open I guess.How are you defining proper crash testing?
One done by an independent official testing organisation where the methodology and results are open I guess.
I mean that just says that all testing was internal to Tesla and that an official body hasnt done it.The vehicle still has to meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety standards. The decision to crash test is up to those testing organizations.
“Automakers do perform their own crash tests to ensure compliance with federal regulations and for internal purposes,” Joe Young of the IIHS said. “Regardless of whether the [Cybertruck] is ever tested by IIHS or for NHTSA’s NCAP program, it will still need to meet federal motor vehicle safety standards, which require certain crash test standards.”
The Cybertruck has done this, and the recommendation from the NHTSA and IIHS is more or less another nod of confidence for any vehicle that is tested. Tesla has received five-star ratings for its vehicles from the NHTSA in the past.
Young also said the Cybertruck could be tested by the IIHS in the future. However, that decision will be made after it can assess “the level of general consumer interest in the vehicle.” If it is popular enough, the IIHS may test it.
I mean that just says that all testing was internal to Tesla and that an official body hasnt done it.
Is that data released to the public? The people that are actually going to buy the thing or get crashed into by it?The internal testing was done to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety standards and Tesla has to show the data to the government. If the government is satisfied that it meets standards, then I am satisfied. That is the current criteria. If you don't like it, then petition the government to change those standards.
If it is so important to you, why don't you look it up? That is the current criteria. If you don't like it, then petition the government to change those standards.Is that data released to the public? The people that are actually going to buy the thing or get crashed into by it?
Because it reads like "Yup. We did the test. Heres a form we filled in saying it passed. We good?"
Because I don't live in the US and I thought that it might be common knowledge to people in the US?If it is so important to you, why don't you look it up? That is the current criteria. If you don't like it, then petition the government to change those standards.
You are being obtuse, just stop it already.Because I don't live in the US and I thought that it might be common knowledge to people in the US?
I'm not sure why you are getting pissy about this. I just wanted to know if the safety standards of trucks and cars are different in the same way that trucks didn't need to meet the same emission targets (yup I get that emissions are irrelevant in this case) as cars because they are classed as a different thing (I wont use the phrase "commercial vehicle" again, I didn't realise that it would be so triggering!).
I'm just trying to ask a simple question!You are being obtuse, just stop it already.