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Lifer
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I might have misunderstood, but I didn't think his point was concern over the rust. My takeaway was that it's ridiculous that it costs extra to get a cover for the hub.
I don't think it's a cover for the hubcap. The hubcap covers the center hole in the wheel.
What happened is some people are taking off the hubcap to expose the rims. Now they need to cap the center, and that cover is not standard with your $100k purchase.
 
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Motostu

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No misunderstanding here. That's the point. They have halfway decent rims when the hubcaps are removed, but then you need to buy a cover for the center hub so it doesn't look half-assed.
 
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bbhaag

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No misunderstanding here. That's the point. They have halfway decent rims when the hubcaps are removed, but then you need to buy a cover for the center hub so it doesn't look half-assed.
Originally you didn't need to purchase axle hub covers because the CT shipped with the aero covers. Tesla has since recalled the aero covers.

The aero covers used the axle hub to help lock them in place as you can see in the photo. Since Tesla did not expect to be shipping CTs without the aero covers they did not have an OEM axle hub cover ready.

 
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DaaQ

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Sigh......the axle bearing isn't rusting. That is just surface rust on the hub/housing and is very common across all automotive manufactures.
So you would want that small nickel and die cover missing on your 6 figure cost vehicle? That is the point.

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To your post above, the wheels are actually nice looking, why cover them with a big ass ninja star? Also most covers I have removed attached to the actual lug nuts. You know the ones with the fake looking bolts molded as one piece.

Who in their right mind would use the above Black aluminum wheels then cover it with a nasty "aerodynamic" plastic cover? I could see if they were steel wagon wheels under there.
 
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bbhaag

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So you would want that small nickel and die cover missing on your 6 figure cost vehicle? That is the point.

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To your post above, the wheels are actually nice looking, why cover them with a big ass ninja star? Also most covers I have removed attached to the actual lug nuts. You know the ones with the fake looking bolts molded as one piece.

Who in their right mind would use the above Black aluminum wheels then cover it with a nasty "aerodynamic" plastic cover? I could see if they were steel wagon wheels under there.
Aerodynamics are very important on EVs especially one shaped like the CT. I am by no means an automotive engineer but if I had to make an educated guess as to why Tesla put aero covers on the rims it was to help with range.

Sales of an EV can live or die by its estimated range so even if it helps by only adding 1-2% manufacturers will do it.
 

DaaQ

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Worse than I thought. They didn't even use nice looking lugnuts on the 100k+ vehicle.

BTW anyone with a 3d printer can get into some production profit.



To quote above post, their front end design does more damage to range than the wheel covers. I mean the body panel gaps are horrendous, just on the front.

EDIT: I was just really surprised for a 120K vehicle, to be missing hub covers, the waves in the body panels, the gap differences in the panel joints, the obvious grinding marks on the sharper edges to round them. I would not have took delivery of the vehicle I seen up close in my hodunk town. Just saying.
I probably should have sat in it, but had no desire with all the flaws I seen from the body details.

@AdamK47 props on the hand built vehicle. Corvettes are also.
 
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bbhaag

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Worse than I thought. They didn't even use nice looking lugnuts on the 100k+ vehicle.

BTW anyone with a 3d printer can get into some production profit.

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To quote above post, their front end design does more damage to range than the wheel covers. I mean the body panel gaps are horrendous, just on the front.
OEM automotive manufacturing doesn't work that way. Tesla just can't slap some axle hub covers together on a 3D printer and call it a day.

Well they could but then guys like you would be pissing and moaning about how the hub covers fall off after 15 miles. Then the NHTSA would get involved because the cover flew off and hit a mini van full of 5 children and caused it to swerve off the road and crash killing the entire family.

Then the litigation starts on how Tesla didn't do proper testing on their axle hub covers....but yeah just pumping them out on a 3D printer. It should be fine.........
 

DaaQ

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OEM automotive manufacturing doesn't work that way. Tesla just can't slap some axle hub covers together on a 3D printer and call it a day.

Well they could but then guys like you would be pissing and moaning about how the hub covers fall off after 15 miles. Then the NHSTA would get involved because the cover flew off and hit a mini van full of 5 children and caused it to swerve off the road and crash killing the entire family.

Then the litigation starts on how Tesla didn't do proper testing on their axle hub covers....but yeah just pumping them out on a 3D printer. It should be fine.........
Looks like people on ebay ARE doing it. Do a little google fu.

 

sdifox

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Injection moulding turn around time is like 6-10 weeks...as in from making mould to finish production run.
 
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bbhaag

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Injection moulding turn around time is like 6-10 weeks...as in from making mould to finish production run.
Yep it's just that easy. 6-10 weeks and boom you got yourself an OEM part ready to ship to customers all across the US. Don't test that shit just design it once then injection mold it and start shipping them out.
 

sdifox

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Yep it's just that easy. 6-10 weeks and boom you got yourself an OEM part ready to ship to customers all across the US. Don't test that shit just design it once then injection mold it and start shipping them out.


Hubcaps are not exactly new. Tesla has cad file of the wheel cover. All the had to do is crop and add a design on the face. And given Tesla testing failed to catch the original problem, it is not a great risk is it?

Another thing, we saw a picture of CT hubcap that was purchased from Tesla no?
 
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sdifox

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So you would want that small nickel and die cover missing on your 6 figure cost vehicle? That is the point.

EDIT:
To your post above, the wheels are actually nice looking, why cover them with a big ass ninja star? Also most covers I have removed attached to the actual lug nuts. You know the ones with the fake looking bolts molded as one piece.

Who in their right mind would use the above Black aluminum wheels then cover it with a nasty "aerodynamic" plastic cover? I could see if they were steel wagon wheels under there.
How else can you shoot shuikens at other cars on the highway?
 
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bbhaag

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Hubcaps are not exactly new. And given Tesla testing failed to catch the original problem, it is not a great risk is it?
Neither are hub studs but how well did that work out for Toyota on the Bz4X? Oh yeah the wheels started falling off.
 

bbhaag

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A hub stud is not a cosmetic plastic cover...
Exactly! So if we're going to hold Tesla to a higher standard then why not call out other manufacturers for doing subpar quality control on parts that actually matter. Not just injection molded wheel covers.
 

sdifox

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Exactly! So if we're going to hold Tesla to a higher standard then why not call out other manufacturers for doing subpar quality control on parts that actually matter. Not just injection molded wheel covers.
When did you see me defend Toyota?
 

bbhaag

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So start a Toyota thread. This is the CT thread.
Then stop holding one automotive manufacturer to a higher standard then the rest. Just because I tell you what you don't want to hear doesn't make me wrong.
 

sdifox

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Then stop holding one automotive manufacturer to a higher standard then the rest. Just because I tell you what you don't want to hear doesn't make me wrong.
Huh? How is everyone else don't charge extra for hub cap holding Tesla to a higher standard? This issue is created by Tesla by designing a wheel cover that cover the tire in the first place.
 

MrSquished

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It's a terrible quality car for the price. I mean there's no way to defend that. The truck's been out, we've seen it, The amount of defects has been incredible - so many breakdowns, trim falling off. It's an overpriced car that looks mostly like ass. And is missing fundamental ergonomic features, like being able to see out the back with a rearview camera that sucks in many cases. A defective wiper. Virtually no tactile controls. A really poor fit and finish. FSD that will never get past level 2 but hyped up way beyond that. Two recalls already. Wheels designed so they wear the tires out way faster than normal. And on and on.

It's more meme worthy than the few decent qualities it has. It's a giant Elon musk ego sized failure. It could not have happened at a more appropriate time to further show what a disaster musk is.

To defend it as hard as some people do, It's just a weird weird thing. The cyber truck forums are filled with fuck ups and bad experiences. And it's not like that many have been sold. It's a cult mainly at this point.
 

DaaQ

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It's a terrible quality car for the price. I mean there's no way to defend that. The truck's been out, we've seen it, The amount of defects has been incredible - so many breakdowns, trim falling off. It's an overpriced car that looks mostly like ass. And is missing fundamental ergonomic features, like being able to see out the back with a rearview camera that sucks in many cases. A defective wiper. Virtually no tactile controls. A really poor fit and finish. FSD that will never get past level 2 but hyped up way beyond that. Two recalls already. Wheels designed so they wear the tires out way faster than normal. And on and on.

It's more meme worthy than the few decent qualities it has. It's a giant Elon musk ego sized failure. It could not have happened at a more appropriate time to further show what a disaster musk is.

To defend it as hard as some people do, It's just a weird weird thing. The cyber truck forums are filled with fuck ups and bad experiences. And it's not like that many have been sold. It's a cult mainly at this point.
To point out the rear view mirror and camera issue.
I drove a 2017 Ford Transit work vehicle with a back up camera, the camera view was in the rear view mirror, 1/2 left side of it. In 2017.
I have a 2023 Chevy, with the premium trim level, inboard dash system, it's backup camera is showed there. I hate it. (wife's choice this go around). I much prefer the rearview mirror option, much more natural feeling. Resulting in your head already facing correct orientation to check blind spots side views ect. Having to look down onto a screen below the window levels is just bad design.
 

MrSquished

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To point out the rear view mirror and camera issue.
I drove a 2017 Ford Transit work vehicle with a back up camera, the camera view was in the rear view mirror, 1/2 left side of it. In 2017.
I have a 2023 Chevy, with the premium trim level, inboard dash system, it's backup camera is showed there. I hate it. (wife's choice this go around). I much prefer the rearview mirror option, much more natural feeling. Resulting in your head already facing correct orientation to check blind spots side views ect. Having to look down onto a screen below the window levels is just bad design.
I've seen videos from the actual cyber truck how actually terrible that rear view camera is for driving in anything but good conditions. It's fucking criminal really
 

WelshBloke

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OEM automotive manufacturing doesn't work that way. Tesla just can't slap some axle hub covers together on a 3D printer and call it a day.

Well they could but then guys like you would be pissing and moaning about how the hub covers fall off after 15 miles. Then the NHTSA would get involved because the cover flew off and hit a mini van full of 5 children and caused it to swerve off the road and crash killing the entire family.

Then the litigation starts on how Tesla didn't do proper testing on their axle hub covers....but yeah just pumping them out on a 3D printer. It should be fine.........
I mean thats pretty much exactly what happened with the original CT hubcaps isnt it?
 
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