Yah that wiper is not going to survive one snow storm.
Cybertruck still doesn't have a ship date on their web site. It's not looking good for 2022.
@Kaido Pretty much nobody believes a single-motor CyberTruck will ever be made, so the $40k price point seems like pure fantasy at this point.
Not only can you not get a Standard Range+ Model Y (IIRC that started at around $42k), but they've even axed the RWD model. So just to step into a Model Y starts at $59k before taxes and fees.
Tesla seems to believe (and perhaps rightfully so) that there is such massive excess demand for their cars that they can raise prices without affecting sales. I question whether that is a viable long-term strategy for a company that aspires to sell 10M cars by 2030. There's a reason why luxury brands are a relatively small part of the auto market; new cars are expensive as it is and most consumers can't afford the luxury mark-up.
Silverado EV looks niiiiice:
@Kaido Pretty much nobody believes a single-motor CyberTruck will ever be made, so the $40k price point seems like pure fantasy at this point.
Not only can you not get a Standard Range+ Model Y (IIRC that started at around $42k), but they've even axed the RWD model. So just to step into a Model Y starts at $59k before taxes and fees.
Tesla seems to believe (and perhaps rightfully so) that there is such massive excess demand for their cars that they can raise prices without affecting sales. I question whether that is a viable long-term strategy for a company that aspires to sell 10M cars by 2030. There's a reason why luxury brands are a relatively small part of the auto market; new cars are expensive as it is and most consumers can't afford the luxury mark-up.
I'm tempted to put a reservation in on a Lightning and Silverado EV and see which of the three I can actually get in a reasonable time frame. If by 2023, Superchargers are open to everyone, that pretty much eliminates the reason I would only look at Tesla.
Yeah... the $40,000 Cybertruck is likely to be an even bigger fantasy than the $35,000 Model 3 was.
I'm tempted to put a reservation in on a Lightning and Silverado EV and see which of the three I can actually get in a reasonable time frame. If by 2023, Superchargers are open to everyone, that pretty much eliminates the reason I would only look at Tesla.
I have to wonder what Elon's definition of "open to everyone" will be. I'd imagine that he'll want to charge something like double the standard charge rate for non Tesla customers.
I have to wonder what Elon's definition of "open to everyone" will be. I'd imagine that he'll want to charge something like double the standard charge rate for non Tesla customers.
The average new pick-up truck now sells for about $50k (all cars and light trucks, about $40k). I was very surprised when CyberTruck was announced with a single-motor model for $40k because this is incredibly aggressive. Honestly, I don't think they actually need to have a $40k CT to be successful. Also, the base price matters less than real-world prices. German luxury brands are well known for having a competitive base MSRP, but adding options quickly drives the price tag much higher.It's too bad, because if they could do it, I guarantee it would sell like gangbusters. My wife does her car & I do mine & even she was interested in it, as so many trucks are $50, $60, $70k+ these days & she could throw all of her photography equipment in the back & not have to deal with gas anymore lol. We were originally interested in the MY, but I just handed my reservation off to a friend (they were forcing everyone into ordering by December 2nd), so he was able save nearly $12,000 on his order due to locking the original price in (that was his Christmas present from me LOL).
The average new pick-up truck now sells for about $50k (all cars and light trucks, about $40k). I was very surprised when CyberTruck was announced with a single-motor model for $40k because this is incredibly aggressive. Honestly, I don't think they actually need to have a $40k CT to be successful. Also, the base price matters less than real-world prices. German luxury brands are well known for having a competitive base MSRP, but adding options quickly drives the price tag much higher.
A $50k CyberTruck will be price competitive in the full-size segment, as long as it delivers what buyers want. Average sale prices will be even higher, but it remains to be seen how greedy Tesla wants to go.
As I said earlier, if they ultimately want to be a volume manufacturer, they'll need a product mixture with lower entry prices. But for the next few years of ramp up, this doesn't appear to be an issue.
The average new pick-up truck now sells for about $50k (all cars and light trucks, about $40k). I was very surprised when CyberTruck was announced with a single-motor model for $40k because this is incredibly aggressive. Honestly, I don't think they actually need to have a $40k CT to be successful. Also, the base price matters less than real-world prices. German luxury brands are well known for having a competitive base MSRP, but adding options quickly drives the price tag much higher.
A $50k CyberTruck will be price competitive in the full-size segment, as long as it delivers what buyers want. Average sale prices will be even higher, but it remains to be seen how greedy Tesla wants to go.
As I said earlier, if they ultimately want to be a volume manufacturer, they'll need a product mixture with lower entry prices. But for the next few years of ramp up, this doesn't appear to be an issue.
Mostly irrelevant because the Models S and X have turned into halo cars, or whatever you want to call low-volume vehicles for millionaires. I believe the CyberTruck will be competitively priced for full-sized pickups, but only time will tell.The fact that they advertised a 2.9-second Cybertruck tells me that the high-end model is going to be pretty dang pricey, considering that the 3.8-second Model X is over $100k!
How many Mavericks will be sold in 2022 vs. how many F-150s? If buyers are sick of paying $50k for pickup trucks, that hasn't turned up in industry sales figures.I think that the popularity of the new Ford Maverick is proof that buyers are sick of paying $50,000+ for a pickup truck that's more vehicle than what they need.
I guess that I'll need to hold out for the Cybertruck Mini
low-volume vehicles for millionaires
I have to wonder what Elon's definition of "open to everyone" will be. I'd imagine that he'll want to charge something like double the standard charge rate for non Tesla customers.
Mostly irrelevant because the Models S and X have turned into halo cars, or whatever you want to call low-volume vehicles for millionaires. I believe the CyberTruck will be competitively priced for full-sized pickups, but only time will tell.
How many Mavericks will be sold in 2022 vs. how many F-150s? If buyers are sick of paying $50k for pickup trucks, that hasn't turned up in industry sales figures.
Good luck to you, I personally would like to own a BEV before the year 2035.
With the first Silverados being the +$100K price point I think the commoner will have to wait until they themselves get reincarnated.