Tesla Cybertruck

[Red Squirrel]

The Lightning Pro has a base price of $53K and the XLT Extended Range starts at $71K. Where are you getting this $100K price tag for the base Lightning?

Wait you're Canadian so I assume you are talking Loonies and not Dollars.

Right off the Ford site. Ford Pro is 61k for lowest range and 77k for extended which is probably what you'd want for a truck, and you can go well past 100k if you look at the highest model, so 69k with tax is the cheapest you can go, and most dealers add quite a lot of markup to them. So it's not quite 100k but getting very close. Although I could have sworn it was more last I checked.

 

[bbhaag]

Right off the Ford site. Ford Pro is 61k for lowest range and 77k for extended which is probably what you'd want for a truck, and you can go well past 100k if you look at the highest model, so 69k with tax is the cheapest you can go, and most dealers add quite a lot of markup to them. So it's not quite 100k but getting very close. Although I could have sworn it was more last I checked.

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In the US the price is lower although I don't know if that accounts for the exchange rate difference. I don't care enough to look it up.

From the US site.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Damn that's way cheaper. We get screwed hard here.

 

[fralexandr]

... going by $1 USD = $1.38 CAD,
$49,995 USD = $68,993.1 CAD
$91,995 USD = $126,953.1 CAD

so not really?

Although based on google the average canadian household makes only ~1.117x the amount of a US household, so by that metric you'd be correct... sort of?

 

[manly]

Nah...that's just the price in 2023. Fully-loaded trucks simply go for $100k these days:

It Is Alarmingly Easy to Spend $100k on a Stock Pickup Truck

Cheap trucks are dead. It is now a segment for the wealthy. How did we get here?

www.motorbiscuit.com

It's ridiculous, but the demand exists!

The 10 Most Expensive Pickup Trucks You Can Buy | Gear Patrol

Want to blow six figures on a stock pickup truck? There are several options.

www.gearpatrol.com

You're right that people are way over-spending on fancy trucks, but what's the ASP? Probably $75k-ish?

As for demand, that's the billion dollar question. If you believe Norway and China are representative of the BEV adoption curve, then the U.S. is primed to electrify a majority of new car sales over the next decade-ish. California is on the leading edge and is seemingly on the cusp of replicating China's success. But most U.S. states are not like California when it comes to environmentalism...

But Tesla furiously cut prices in 2023 just to keep sales flowing, and it's widely reported that BEV inventory on dealership lots is very high by current standards (as measured by days of inventory). I personally see the glass as half-full; BEV inventory is high because the U.S. is still early in the adoption curve and to date, pricing has been too high relative to ICE (and exacerbated by current high loan rates).

When BEV prices reach rough parity with ICE and charging infrastructure gets built out, I think American consumers will come around (slowly at first but eventually).

Finally it's very different to start with a $70k truck and slap $30k of "luxury" options on it; vs. a tri-motor CT that begins at $99k. Generally Teslas don't have many options to choose from, but will the $99k CT be "fully appointed" or will it be fairly spartan like its passenger car brethren? I'm guessing the latter. "Spartan design" is just Tesla's euphemism for better profit margins.

 

[Kaido]

Finally it's very different to start with a $70k truck and slap $30k of "luxury" options on it; vs. a tri-motor CT that begins at $99k. Generally Teslas don't have many options to choose from, but will the $99k CT be "fully appointed" or will it be fairly spartan like its passenger car brethren? I'm guessing the latter. "Spartan design" is just Tesla's euphemism for better profit margins.

I'm curious if they're going to do an ultra-performance quad-motor variant. Like a "Plaid" version.

Supposedly 2024 MIGHT see the first deliveries of the Roadster 2.0...

 

[Red Squirrel]

... going by $1 USD = $1.38 CAD,
$49,995 USD = $68,993.1 CAD
$91,995 USD = $126,953.1 CAD

so not really?

Although based on google the average canadian household makes only ~1.117x the amount of a US household, so by that metric you'd be correct... sort of?

That's the thing it might be a different currency but it still means it's more expensive. An American making $30/hour can more easily buy a truck in America than a Canadian making $30/hour can buy one here because it's the dollar value that matters and not the currency and it's still way more expensive here.

 

[misuspita]

WTF is happening with the prices?

I bought a Ford Focus 2020 right before the covid happened and I paid 18k (E. Europe). I know it's different, but... why the hell prices gone up north like that?

 

[Brainonska511]

WTF is happening with the prices?

I bought a Ford Focus 2020 right before the covid happened and I paid 18k (E. Europe). I know it's different, but... why the hell prices gone up north like that?

Supply and demand. People suddenly wanted new cars but inventory shriveled, and even as inventory has recovered, it meant fewer late model used vehicles and manufacturers have put more parts into higher margin vehicles (and higher trims). The "entry level" vehicle has also shifted in the US to be a crossover/small SUV type vehicle which costs a few k more (so again, more margin, even at the low end - a good example is Ford - EcoSport built on Fiesta platform, Escape built on Focus platform), successful marketing to change consumer preferences, and easier to meet fuel economy standards when everything is a "light truck".

I still got a new hybrid sedan last year for mid $20s, so it is possible to get something reasonably priced, but I also recognize that I don't need a luxury land barge.

 

[misuspita]

I hate land barges. The Focus has excellent steering and it's very nimble, can get me out of trouble very quickly compared with anything like a Touareg or Q7

 

[bigi]

There is another rumor going around that first 999 Cybertrucks will be free for those who ordered. Take that 98K fake post.

 

[IronWing]

There is another rumor going around that if your aunt had a dick, she would be your uncle.

 

[bigi]

There is another rumor going around that if your aunt had a dick, she would be your uncle.

apparently, you have a couple of those. b careful at the turkey table

 

[AdamK47]

apparently, you have a couple of those. b careful at the turkey table

His dicked aunts may very well be nice polite and respectful people. Don't judge his aunts merely on their dickly appendages.

 

[bigi]

meh, even polite dicked aunts need to put their donalds somewhere

 

[Kaido]

 

[rstrohkirch]

Guess I didn't notice the 1 wiper before.

 

[Kaido]

Guess I didn't notice the 1 wiper before.

Ah yes, the Ice Katana:

 

[sdifox]

Who cares about physics when it looks cooler?

 

[sdifox]

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Isn't it a ticketable offence to block the sidewalk?

 

[snoopy7548]

Isn't it a ticketable offence to block the sidewalk?

Hey man, not that guy's fault his new truck doesn't fit in his garage or driveway.

 

[Brainonska511]

Isn't it a ticketable offence to block the sidewalk?

Yes, but this country doesn't care about pedestrians.

 

[Spicedaddy]

Wow that's ugly!

 

[Red Squirrel]

It's kind of like if you asked AI to make a commercial kitchen on wheels.

 

[sdifox]

I wonder if Ponyo got his.