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bbhaag

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Holy moly, over $500 shipped for a spare tire!!

Yeah I know....and that isn't even for an OEM one like the Tesla you linked to. If I want an OEM rim I gotta buy 4 of them plus the tire. Then I gotta buy the 3-ton jack and tools to take the rim off the hub


 
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Kaido

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No offence taken! At all! I just always find it weird how people always make it a positive thing about how something might accelerate but not care if it can decelerate in any way!

We are very competitive here in America lol
 

Kaido

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Yeah I know....and that isn't even for an OEM one like the Tesla you linked to. If I want an OEM rim I gotta buy 4 of them plus the tire. Then I gotta buy the 3-ton jack and tools to take the rim off the hub


Dang...RIP your wallet if you get curb rash!

That was always one of my concerns with Tesla vehicles...having a strong enough jack & a spare tire kit. Flat tires happen from time to time...I don't want to be stranded on the side of the road waiting for help because my fancy car is too fancy for a spare lol.
 

bbhaag

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4:30 in has an overview of the wheel system. Custom rims, custom Goodyear tires, 2-part plastic Aero hubcap kit that has little grippy teeth into the custom tires:


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His video was really good. He went over a lot of things that the Hagerty video didn't. Marques focused more on the day to day aspect of the CT while Jason focused more on the engineering behind it. Both videos are really worth watching.
 
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Kaido

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His video was really good. He went over a lot of things that the Hagerty video didn't. Marques focused more on the day to day aspect of the CT while Jason focused more on the engineering behind it. Both videos are really worth watching.

It really makes me wonder if their selling strategy changed. No cheap truck, no ultra-long-range truck. Pretty much the rollout didn't even mention stuff like the range extender.

I like that it's weird. I do like that there's a 470-mile option available. $96k is bonkers in my mind & for my budget lol. I feel like you should have a Ferrari or something for that kind of money haha!
 

bbhaag

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It really makes me wonder if their selling strategy changed. No cheap truck, no ultra-long-range truck. Pretty much the rollout didn't even mention stuff like the range extender.

I like that it's weird. I do like that there's a 470-mile option available. $96k is bonkers in my mind & for my budget lol. I feel like you should have a Ferrari or something for that kind of money haha!
Yeah that's the hard part about the CT. What's it worth? I can spec out an R1T that is pretty close in price but the tech isn't on par and the story is the same with the Lighting. On the other hand those two trucks use a more traditional approach to what a truck is. Off roading capability, towing, and payload, ect.

Then you have to factor in things like you mentioned like range and even things you didn't like the charging network, after the sale service, long term reliability, ect.....wow.....

All I can say is love it or hate the CT is poised to shake up what everyone thinks a truck should be. I can almost guarantee that the engineers at Rivian, Ford, and GM shit themselves over this past week. haha
 

Viper GTS

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Definitely too late, being first to market with an EV truck + access to the supercharger network I 100% would have bought one.

Now I have a Rivian, the supercharger network is about to be accessible by all of the EV truck competition, and Elon has gone batshit crazy.

Cybertruck is the one EV reservation I haven’t yet canceled, but I have basically zero interest now.

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Well, this has aged poorly.

They did a really good job not leaking all the stuff they have been working on. I was not expecting 48V accessory power, switchable 400/800V traction battery, or steer by wire. I also did not expect the ridiculously consistent performance across SoC, or Powershare. I can live with the range with 350kw charging. My only remaining disappointment I think is that there is no quad motor.

I cancelled two Lightning and two Silverado reservations but kept this one on the off chance it turned out to be awesome. I love my Rivian, but it may have to be the wife’s car now. I just hope Elon tones down the crazy so that I can justify buying one.

I’m not the only Rivian owner I know of looking at this as their next vehicle purchase. Anyone who was happy to support what Rivian did to move trucks forward with a ground up EV design is going to lose their shit over this.

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bbhaag

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bbhaag

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Nah man, I'm on Ecoboost money...I have this $25 bad boy lol:


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Well guess what? You lucked out because the OEM part I linked to fits all 2015-2023 Mustangs regardless of what engine they come with. So now you don't have to look to shady aftermarket alternatives. You can sleep tight tonight knowing that Ford has got you covered.
 
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Zorba

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-That's the thing though, until someone pioneers it or it's use, it will never become a mass produced publicly sold product.

I can respect the engineering that went into the cyber truck while still thinking it looks like absolute dog shit though.
But what do you really get with a 48v system? You can make the wires a gauge thinner, so a little bit of weight/cost, what else? Weight is why aircraft use 24v. But on a car that means every light and every electronic is going to be special for this truck.
 

Zorba

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Don't recall seeing the images of the crash tests here. Pretty damning that the body is so rigid that the rear axle would be deformed in a 35 mph collision, because of the lack of energy dissipating crumple zones up front. Imagine what that would do the a driver's insides.
That might be the back tire steering, although that might be really bad too, swinging you ass out into more traffic.

Also looks like the windshield completely exploded. That is crazy from a 35 mpg crash.
 

Zorba

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Is this true? If so, that's gonna be a lot of fun 😁
Not just a Tesla problem, but lighting regulations really need to be updates in the US. Some cars brake lights are so bright they cause blind spots, and many cars you can barely tell the difference between tail lights and brake lights. Many EVs also don't turn on their brake lights for single foot driving.
 

Zorba

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Agreed, if I want a OEM full size spare for my Mach-E it would cost about the same.......except that Ford doesn't even offer one. The Mach-E doesn't even come with a doughnut just a can of fix a flat and a tire inflator. If that doesn't work then I'm stuck calling for a tow.

It's always fun to poke at Tesla until you realize that legacy manufacturers are doing the same or less......
Yeah, worst thing about my Bolt. But Toyota and others have been doing it for years on ICE cars.
 

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Not just a Tesla problem, but lighting regulations really need to be updates in the US. Some cars brake lights are so bright they cause blind spots, and many cars you can barely tell the difference between tail lights and brake lights. Many EVs also don't turn on their brake lights for single foot driving.
Yeah, you could copy the European way
 

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Imagine that mini truck, but electric. I don't know why they can't make something like that here, it would be awesome and actually have more utility value than most newer trucks. The sides on those actually come down to make it a full flat bed which could be nice for larger loads. A lot of people import them, but that is a process and a half to go through.
 
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Imagine that mini truck, but electric. I don't know why they can't make something like that here, it would be awesome and actually have more utility value than most newer trucks. The sides on those actually come down to make it a full flat bed which could be nice for larger loads. A lot of people import them, but that is a process and a half to go through.
They don't make or sell that kind of stuff here because most people don't buy trucks for utility purposes, they buy these large vehicles for vibes, social signaling, and because advertising works.
 
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Red Squirrel

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They don't make or sell that kind of stuff here because most people don't buy trucks for utility purposes, they buy these large vehicles for vibes, social signaling, and because advertising works.
They could still make the big trucks though, at least make the utility ones an option. Seems to me if I wanted a status symbol I'd rather get a nice sports car like a Corvette or something. They're roughly in same price range.
 
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They could still make the big trucks though, at least make the utility ones an option. Seems to me if I wanted a status symbol I'd rather get a nice sports car like a Corvette or something. They're roughly in same price range.
But that's just your personal preference. People have made big trucks a personality trait, and automakers are happy to keep obliging: these things are huge money makers for them.

Making smaller, cheaper utility trucks is just something they are not going to do in NA because they are less profitable and there is no major market for them here to sustain the volume that would be needed for a lower cost vehicle like that.
 
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