For $60, you're buying two.Supposedly a $60 Cybertruck is coming out this year, but between the competition, recalls, and political symbolism, who knows how well it will do...
Not to defend your boy Leon, but did he actually state 500k as a 2025 sales target or goal? I'd been willing to reserve judgment for a bit longer*, but you'd already called CT a flop two weeks ago. By definition, a flop cannot be saved.Worth noting that Elon said they would sell half a million of these a year. They managed less than a tenth of that in like 15 months.
Something to remember when he is promising advanced humanoid robots and robotaxis that will supposedly be worth trillions to the company.
Not to defend your boy Leon, but did he actually state 500k as a 2025 sales target or goal? I'd been willing to reserve judgment for a bit longer*, but you'd already called CT a flop two weeks ago. By definition, a flop cannot be saved.
* this was before the relatively recent CT hatred due to Elon's DOGE "work". Currently it isn't even about CT anymore, but whether the entire business model is threatened by global demand destruction.
I don't disagree, but just wanted to clarify even Elon's dumb ass didn't say they're going to sell 500k units this year.CT is a flop. A giant one. I was reserving judgement about if the entire company is cooked in the US as much as it is abroad (I suspect it is but not certain, we'll see in April).
He said he anticipated the market to be 250k units or even 500k units. No timeline specified. They have basically exhausted demand already so it is f'd.
It varies a lot, but the depreciation of "light trucks" in the U.S. isn't usually so extreme. But yeah, you were always gonna get hosed if you were dumb enough to buy the $100k CT and hold onto it.TBF new cars depreciate a shit ton in the first year. Like losing 40% in a year isn't crazy unusual, its exactly why I don't buy brand new cars!
I don't disagree, but just wanted to clarify even Elon's dumb ass didn't say they're going to sell 500k units this year.
Purely hypothetically, if Tesla offered the single-motor variant for $49k tomorrow (which they can't and won't), could they even sell 120k units in 2025? It's far from clear that they could, given current headwinds. The irrational exuberance of 2020 is long gone.
Purely hypothetically, if Tesla offered the single-motor variant for $49k tomorrow (which they can't and won't), could they even sell 120k units in 2025? It's far from clear that they could, given current headwinds. The irrational exuberance of 2020 is long gone.
Here is what he said at the 2023 annual shareholder meeting:
"I'd say a quarter million a year is a reasonable guess and it might be 500,000, I don't know. We'll make as many as people want and can afford. It's going to be hard to make the cost affordable because it is a new car, new manufacturing method, so in the grand scheme of things relative to the production rate of all the other cars we make, it will be small. But still very cool."
47k trucks x $80k minimum = $3.7 billion in sales so far. iirc it takes one billion dollars to bring a car to market these days. Dunno how much that Gigapress cost tho...
I feel like the brand damage to the Cybertruck specifically is permanent at this point. Kids growing up these days probably only see it as a meme car & political symbol. Fun, crazy design & lots of awesome technology. Oh well!
First person injured by some of that crap flying off is going to have a nice personal injury lawsuit going!tbh, I doubt it. It's vandalism magnet at this point & the panels are literally falling off:
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apologies, I replied to your post earlier but mistakenly thought I was addressing @KaidoHere is what he said at the 2023 annual shareholder meeting:
"I'd say a quarter million a year is a reasonable guess and it might be 500,000, I don't know. We'll make as many as people want and can afford. It's going to be hard to make the cost affordable because it is a new car, new manufacturing method, so in the grand scheme of things relative to the production rate of all the other cars we make, it will be small. But still very cool."
It is a poorly built/designed MAGA hat on wheels made by South African Hitler. I think the brand damage is pretty severe.
apologies, I replied to your post earlier but mistakenly thought I was addressing @Kaido
Cox Automotive has some U.S. sales figures for the first two months, and they're pretty ugly.
Tesla Cybertruck Sales Are Tanking. Here's Why
The Tesla Cybertruck might be one of the most recognizable vehicles on the road, but its sales are heading in the wrong direction. According to Cox Automotive, U.S. Cybertruck sales dropped by 32.5% between January and February, falling to just 2,619 units. That’s not the kind of momentum Tesla...autos.yahoo.com
A Youtuber recreated the fake-wall test with a Cybertruck:
I still think LIDAR is needed:
apologies, I replied to your post earlier but mistakenly thought I was addressing @Kaido
Cox Automotive has some U.S. sales figures for the first two months, and they're pretty ugly.
Tesla Cybertruck Sales Are Tanking. Here's Why
The Tesla Cybertruck might be one of the most recognizable vehicles on the road, but its sales are heading in the wrong direction. According to Cox Automotive, U.S. Cybertruck sales dropped by 32.5% between January and February, falling to just 2,619 units. That’s not the kind of momentum Tesla...autos.yahoo.com
Rivian and Ford could only dream of truck sales numbers like the CT is having.
Objectively, it IS a flop:
1. 47k sales in 1.5 years
2. Endless recalls
3. Political reputation tarnishing
Plus:
1. The release was not what anyone expected. It took awhile for Stockholm syndrome to set in before I grew to like it LOL
2. The release design was tweaked & the specs were not as marketed. Still no "budget" version & the battery backpack still hasn't shipped (with no ETA)
Maybe VW will ship a 500-mile VW Bus unicorn
The market for 80K dollar EV trucks is just inherently limited.
The stainless was the biggest selling point for me. Regular cars rust so fast, you pay so much money for them and within 20 years it's basically scrap. If they had built this right it could last a long time. Although I think reality is it's very hard to protect from all the salt they put on the road, so they need to just build vehicles that are serviceable. Even with stainless body and such there's still lot of metal components that can rust but if they made all that stuff easy to service it's not that bad, like it should be possible to easily replace entire body panels, and even the frame. My truck is a 2009, it's not THAT old, but yet it's on it's last legs because of rust. I would be pissed if I had paid full price for that and I was already having to replace it. Although in 2009 the trucks were not as crazy expensive as now, but still.
The Delorean is still holding up, but Cybertrucks are already starting to rust. Plus the panels always look dirty & the stainless seems to be different shades between panels.
They should have put that fingerprint-resistant clear-coat on it like they do on fridges lol.
Elon insisted on no clear coat. And cheap SS. I imagine the better looking DeLoreans have clear coat on them.Yeah it's odd that the CT is rusting so quickly, it must be something specific to the alloy that they use maybe.