Tesla D Vs Lambo Aventador

bigi

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Here

Make sure to read full comments by the author. Looks like his Ma will have some fun.
 

reallyscrued

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Awesome.

Electric motors have full torque at any given moment so the Tesla gets the Lambo from out the hole, but then high horsepower and gearing for top speed catches up.

And omg, the color on the Aventador...
 

Wuzup101

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That's pretty awesome. I'm not a huge fan of how the Tesla's look (IMHO they are pretty bland - on the exterior that is). That being said... there is a lot of win in that video. Awesome family car!
 

redgtxdi

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I recently drove a buddy's Tesla. (The model versions are a little confusing but his does 0-60 in 4.2seconds)

I have to admit I was impressed!! That is no joke. My BIL had an '03 540i w/ M-kit and that puppy could romp, yet I'd take the Tesla every day and twice on Sunday!

The acceleration is ridiculous. I'm actually surprised to have seen the Lambo pull away the way it did. Sure, it takes a lot more money to do it but the way the Tesla pulled my stomach and only at 4.2, not 3.2s, I still would gladly own a Tesla.

Now, if they can just get the travel capacity up to about a 5 or 6 hour road trip, I'd seriously consider one!
 

Viper GTS

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I think the best part about the P85D is just how tiny the premium was to go from one motor to two. Given the massive performance jump over an already stupid fast sedan they could have charged a lot more. It might have even saved them some grief from people who bought P85s, feeling like a major leap vs just a somewhat pricey option might make them a little less bitter.

Incredible performance for the money, but even though I'm starting to reach a point where I can wrap my head around spending six figures on a car the simple truth is I would rather spend that much on something else. If I had unlimited money then of course it would be a superb daily driver but for me to spend P85D money on a car my daily driver would have to be essentially disposable OR it would have to be something that I could justify driving year round (as an only car).

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bigi

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Apparently dual motors not only help with acceleration, but with power distribution that contributes to little longer range, superb snow/ice/wet driving with almost instantaneous implementation of torque vectoring that can't be achieved with mechanical systems.
 

bigi

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...Now, if they can just get the travel capacity up to about a 5 or 6 hour road trip, I'd seriously consider one!

It is not really a problem of ability to do it, but rather the price of batteries.

Once the Gigafactory starts up, we'll see the price/ratio much more favorable for the customers.

Remember the 1st gen cell phones? It was not that long ago...
 

halik

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Tesla drag race video formula:
1) Have the tesla jump the light
2) Have the other car not launch
3) Declare victory

Literally every single tesla drag race goes like that. The lambo does 0-60 in sub 3, so there should be absolutely no contest if you launch it.

They're cool cars, but it's as if the owners had some sort of inferiority complex.
 
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smackababy

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I'd love to see how the Tesla does against a car like the McLaren P1. That is the real test! All electric VS a car that uses an electric motor for augmentation when the 700+ HP motor isn't giving full torque.
 

Pacfanweb

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Tesla drag race video formula:
1) Have the tesla jump the light
2) Have the other car not launch
3) Declare victory

Literally every single tesla drag race goes like that. The lambo does 0-60 in sub 3, so there should be absolutely no contest if you launch it.

I noticed that. Also noticed how the Lambo came right back by it in in short order, so unless you're racing for less than a city block, the Tesla loses. The Lambo was back even at 5 seconds, by my count, and leaving the Tesla, badly.

Then you can get into the whole "which car had the better driver" debate, and how hard they were pushing the cars, etc.
 

skyking

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I'm not too worried about the lambo owner's ego there. That video is about what is possible now and I am quite impressed and pleased by it.
the arguments about the cost and pollution of building batteries are all valid, but the pollution in the high density urban areas cannot be denied. The cities stink, literally.
We can get as many people as possible on transit but if the rest move into electrics that work, those cities can become the cleanest places.
 

MagickMan

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That's Allen Wong's Aventador, I've been in it, and he refuses to use launch control because it will often damage the clutch (@$24k).
 

bigi

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I noticed that. Also noticed how the Lambo came right back by it in in short order, so unless you're racing for less than a city block, the Tesla loses. The Lambo was back even at 5 seconds, by my count, and leaving the Tesla, badly.

Then you can get into the whole "which car had the better driver" debate, and how hard they were pushing the cars, etc.

Read the comments by video's author.
He owns both cars. He comments very exactly about his Lambo and gear shifting. Of course the Lambo wins after its 3rd gear as Tesla hits limiter.

Per his comments, in this particular test, Tesla is quicker to 60MPH and holds it up to 80 MPH.

I don't think that this has been made to diminish the Aventador rather to show what Tesla D can do.
 

HybridSquirrel

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those motors overheat so quickly it is ridiculous. Someone took one up to the drag strip and got 2 timed runs off of it before it started limiting power. Also, Nissan Leaf's routintely beat them around Laguna Seca at the annual EV race there because of the power limiting. I used to SCCA a guy with a Model S and he got 2 out of 4 laps out of it because of how bad the car limited power half way through the second lap.

If you like racing stop light to stop light, yeah its a faster car. But if you actually want to race it you will be disappointed.


edit: I seriously cant stand automotive journalism and the Tesla circle jerk sometimes. Here is an article about the car power limiting half way through the 2nd lap at Button Willow. The author goes on to say basically "well at least you get one full power lap in". If any other car manufacturer did this the press would be up in flames!

http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-48-model-s-takes-buttonwillow-raceway-video/
 
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MagickMan

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Read the comments by video's author.
He owns both cars. He comments very exactly about his Lambo and gear shifting. Of course the Lambo wins after its 3rd gear as Tesla hits limiter.

Per his comments, in this particular test, Tesla is quicker to 60MPH and holds it up to 80 MPH.

I don't think that this has been made to diminish the Aventador rather to show what Tesla D can do.

There are several cheaper cars that are faster to 100mph than the Aventador, especially when you don't use the launch control. That's not the point of having a big Lambo.
 

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That's pretty awesome. I'm not a huge fan of how the Tesla's look (IMHO they are pretty bland - on the exterior that is). That being said... there is a lot of win in that video. Awesome family car!

No. An electric motor's torque is directly tied to it's rotational speed. At zero speed the motor has maximum torque, and max speed it has zero torque.

Combustion engines have a torque curve, and unless they are super/turbo charged they usually don't reach maximum torque until they hit 50-70% of their maximum RPM.

That's why it wins off the line. That's why a prius has decent acceleration but can't get out of it's own way over 40 mph.
 

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I saw this the other day, pretty impressive from a all electric car! even for someone like myself who doesnt like electric cars, it is hard to ignore the acceleration!
 

Wuzup101

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No. An electric motor's torque is directly tied to it's rotational speed. At zero speed the motor has maximum torque, and max speed it has zero torque.

Combustion engines have a torque curve, and unless they are super/turbo charged they usually don't reach maximum torque until they hit 50-70% of their maximum RPM.

That's why it wins off the line. That's why a prius has decent acceleration but can't get out of it's own way over 40 mph.

I assume that you meant to quote someone else - but good explanation none the less.
 

TechBoyJK

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Tesla drag race video formula:
1) Have the tesla jump the light
2) Have the other car not launch
3) Declare victory

Literally every single tesla drag race goes like that. The lambo does 0-60 in sub 3, so there should be absolutely no contest if you launch it.

They're cool cars, but it's as if the owners had some sort of inferiority complex.

The Tesla's aren't jumping at the light.

You're confusing the Tesla's quick reaction time to jumping. Common mistake but an often made one.
 
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