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Kaido

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'If you order a Model 3 now, you will probably get it at the end of 2018.'
 

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Engadget's coverage:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/29/tesla-just-delivered-the-first-round-of-model-3s/

Looks like just shy of $60k fully loaded:

* $35k base price
* $44k long-range
* $1k for spiffy color options
* $1.5k for spiffy rims
* $5k for premium pack (heated seats etc.)
* $5k Autopilot
* $3k for future Full-self driving

No mention of AWD pricing (per Wired: The twin motor, the all-wheel-drive option, will follow in a few months). iirc the first units are all RWD. As far as options go:
The Model 3 will only sport a single 15-inch display screen (rather than the S's dual digital displays) and offer a far more streamlined customization process with fewer than 100 options for customers to choose from. The Model S, for comparison, boasts more than 1,500 customization schemes.
 

Kaido

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The inside is much improved over the S in terms of usability. I know they're dull, but there are things like door pockets. And twin charging points for driver and passenger phones which is a nice touch.

I am curious about when they are going to update the X & S with little stuff like that. I don't know if the X even has sunvisor mirror lighting yet. iirc they poached the head of interior design for Volvo, so hopefully Good Things are in store for the more expensive models in the future.
 

Kaido

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I think the big takeaways are:

* Available 310-mile range
* All existing orders & orders placed today should be delivered by the end of 2018
* $60k maxed out

Also:

* Pano rear windshield for usable headroom
* Unlocks using your phone's Bluetooth
 

Kaido

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Here is the full list of features & options:

https://www.tesla.com/presskit

&

https://www.tesla.com/support/model-3-reservations-faq
Which future options will be made available to order, and when?

We are planning to introduce the following options in the coming months:

Fall 2017: White interior option, standard configuration (non-Premium Upgrades)
November 2017: Standard Battery, $35,000 car
Spring 2018: Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive

Additional options will become available over time.

Press release:
OPTIONS

Long Range Battery - $9,000
  • Range: 310 miles
  • Supercharging rate: 170 miles of range per 30 minutes
  • Home charging rate: 37 miles of range per hour (240V outlet, 40A)
  • 0-60 mph: 5.1 seconds
  • Top speed: 140 mph
  • Deliveries begin: July 2017
Paint
  • Solid Black: Standard
  • Midnight Silver Metallic: $1,000
  • Deep Blue Metallic: $1,000
  • Silver Metallic: $1,000
  • Pearl White Multi-Coat: $1,000
  • Red Multi-Coat: $1,000
Wheels
  • 18” Aero: Standard
  • 19” Sport: $1,500
Premium Upgrades Package - $5,000

Upgraded interior with additional features and premium materials.
  • Premium heated seating and cabin materials throughout, including open pore wood décor and two rear USBs
  • 12-way, power adjustable front seats, steering column and side mirrors, with custom driver profiles
  • Premium audio system with more power, tweeters, surround speakers and subwoofer
  • Tinted glass roof with ultraviolet and infrared protection
  • Auto dimming, power folding, heated side mirrors
  • LED fog lamps
  • Center console with covered storage and docking for two smartphones
Enhanced Autopilot - $5,000
Model 3 will match speed to traffic conditions, keep within a lane, automatically change lanes, transition from one freeway to another, exit the freeway and self-park at your destination.

Additional features will roll out over time through software updates.

Full Self-Driving Capability - $3,000 (requires Enhanced Autopilot)
In the future, Model 3 will be capable of conducting trips with no action required by the person in the driver’s seat.

This feature is dependent upon extensive software validation and regulatory approval, which may vary by jurisdiction.
 

PeterScott

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Nice!

Model 3 is so unexpected scalpel-like, I’m sputtering for adjectives. The steering ratio is quick, the effort is light (for me), but there’s enough light tremble against your fingers to hear the cornering negotiations between Stunt Road and these 235/40R19 tires (Continental ProContact RX m+s’s). And to mention body roll is to have already said too much about it. Sure, that battery is low, way down under the floor. But unlike the aluminum Model S, the Tesla Model 3 is composed of steel, too, and this car’s glass ceiling can’t be helping the center of gravity’s height. Nearly-nil body roll? Magic, I’m telling you. Magic.
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...penciled me into a 2.0-liter Alfa Romeo Giulia to get here, and it feels like a wet sponge by comparison.
 

K1052

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As I suspected the 3 optioned as I want will cost about 55K. Interior while indeed kind of minimalist looks great and very well thought out. As an i3 driver the sealed frunk that fits something the size of a carry on piece of luggage is almost a dream come true.

*patiently waits for AWD availability*

BMW and MB should be shitting their collective pants.
 
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Curious ... batteries perform poorly in cold weather. Is it really wise to have a heated seats option? Imagine, you are in your Model 3 and it is cold. Must get to work (or anywhere else). You know your batteries will perform poorly because of the cold so why not task the battery package further by heating your butt. Seems like a smart move, no?
 

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Curious ... batteries perform poorly in cold weather. Is it really wise to have a heated seats option? Imagine, you are in your Model 3 and it is cold. Must get to work (or anywhere else). You know your batteries will perform poorly because of the cold so why not task the battery package further by heating your butt. Seems like a smart move, no?

EVs often have heated seats and steering wheels. It's more efficient to heat your body at points of contact, than heating all the air around you.
 

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heated seats are a few hundred watts, the cabin heater is several thousand. in our volt, we get much better range just using the headed seats.
 

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Curious ... batteries perform poorly in cold weather. Is it really wise to have a heated seats option? Imagine, you are in your Model 3 and it is cold. Must get to work (or anywhere else). You know your batteries will perform poorly because of the cold so why not task the battery package further by heating your butt. Seems like a smart move, no?

Heated seats barely use any power compared to the hvac system. My car has a 17 kw battery and it doesn't even drop my range by 1 mile if they're on all the time. Any time it's under 60 I have them on full love heated seats
 

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15 cubic feet of storage? Barely bigger than my MR2! Trunk looks useless for lots of stuff. Too bad Tesla guys hate hatchbacks. It's funny to see a car so big that has such a tiny trunk.
 
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Kaido

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As an i3 driver the sealed frunk that fits something the size of a carry on piece of luggage is almost a dream come true.

I'm amazed at how much stuff you can fit in the back of an i3. My buddy is a photographer & fits loads of equipment in it.
 
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Kaido

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Curious ... batteries perform poorly in cold weather. Is it really wise to have a heated seats option? Imagine, you are in your Model 3 and it is cold. Must get to work (or anywhere else). You know your batteries will perform poorly because of the cold so why not task the battery package further by heating your butt. Seems like a smart move, no?

The batteries are insulated, they don't really lose any range in the cold. OTOH, my buddy's Honda Fit EV is awful in cold weather because the batteries are not insulated. I think he's on year 3 or 4 of leasing it. Results have been:

1. Battery range has pretty much stayed the same throughout the years (around 80 miles), no degradation.
2. Battery range drops off in the cold
3. At 20F, it goes down to about 20 miles of range
4. At 0F, it goes down to about 5 miles of range (fully charged)

That's one of the reasons I want a 500 to 600 mile battery...what if you get stuck somewhere in the winter & need to keep the heat on? Bigger battery = long runtime. I've been stuck on the highway for literally hours at a time (albeit very rarely) during storms when there are accidents & the road is backed up forever. And vice versa for hot days when you want to keep the A/C running but you're stuck in traffic.

I am surprised at the 310-mile battery option, that's VERY nice. I wish it wasn't so far out. I would trade my jeep in for a long-range 3 with AWD if they were available today.
 

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I'm amazed at how much stuff you can fit in the back of an i3. My buddy is a photography & fits loads of equipment in it.

Yea people are often surprised how much room there is inside. The car looks tiny but they did an awesome job of arranging the interior to maximize space.
 

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15 cubic feet of storage? Barely bigger than my MR2! Trunk looks useless for lots of stuff. Too bad Tesla guys hate hatchbacks. It's funny to see a car so big that has such a tiny trunk.

The biggest MR-2 (2nd generation) had a cargo volume of 6.6 cubic feet.

The Tesla has more than double, and you can fold the rear seat flat, and throw a bicycle, or big screen TV in the trunk then.
 

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The biggest MR-2 (2nd generation) had a cargo volume of 6.6 cubic feet.

The Tesla has more than double, and you can fold the rear seat flat, and throw a bicycle, or big screen TV in the trunk then.

Hmm I googled my aw11 last night and it said 11 cubic feet. Maybe the site I found was wrong.

Edit measured about 7 in trunk and 4.5 up front with the spare in place.
 

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Yes it's a first gen. I just measured it. It's way more than 5 cubic feet. Maybe is the way it's measured and I am optimistic . I guess it just sounded low. Pretty pathetic about that monstrous sequoia though!
 
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surprised Mazda hasn't sued for using the '3'

ie: mazda 3 and claiming confusing/diluting their model's brand name on customers
 

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steering wheel controls, some sort of display behind the steering wheel, air vents...

There are actually controls on the steering wheel... and a blinker stem thingy dingy. And there is that huge fucking screen with all the info you need in the center dash area angled appropriately towards the driver. The AC vents are blended with the dash facia.

It is all there man... Not the first car to have it's speedometer and shit on the center of the dash...
 
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