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bigi

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Less is better. This is a metal can that transports your behind on a chair.

No need for this:
 

gorcorps

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Less is better. This is a metal can that transports your behind on a chair.

No need for this:

Speak for yourself, I much prefer buttons to touchscreens. I test drove the newest Pilot a while back and the biggest drawback was how much of the control was by touch screen, and it was awful (it's usually the biggest gripe of the vehicle, everything else is well praised). Looking at the Tesla being nothing BUT touch controls makes me very uneasy with where the future of automotive interiors is headed. I don't like it one bit... give me knobs and buttons. A large display is fine for information, but that shouldn't be the primary control method. It takes attention away from the road if you have to look at the screen to see what you're pressing.
 

NutBucket

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Voice control. Even 5 years ago when we were thinking of buying an MDX you could do almost everything with voice commands. Alexa lite, if you will.
 

Kaido

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Speak for yourself, I much prefer buttons to touchscreens. I test drove the newest Pilot a while back and the biggest drawback was how much of the control was by touch screen, and it was awful (it's usually the biggest gripe of the vehicle, everything else is well praised). Looking at the Tesla being nothing BUT touch controls makes me very uneasy with where the future of automotive interiors is headed. I don't like it one bit... give me knobs and buttons. A large display is fine for information, but that shouldn't be the primary control method. It takes attention away from the road if you have to look at the screen to see what you're pressing.

I test-drove the X & the S and that was actually one of my biggest complaints. The giant touchscreen is cool from a tech perspective, but I kinda hated it. Aside from being a lemon, one of the things I really like about my Jeep Renegade is the button layout...excellent steering wheel controls & excellent mid-dashboard layout. I can do everything by feel, without having to look at the screen while driving, just like the old Tivo peanut remote. Human ergonomics are something that needs to be considered separately from just "cool stuff we can do with technology". But, they also needed a selling point for a new, expensive, electric car, and that definitely did the trick at the time!
 

UNCjigga

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So is the big center mount touchscreen the only display in the car (no speedometer?) I haven't seen pics of the final production car's interior yet. I was hoping they'd at least do a HUD in front of the driver for critical stuff, if there was no gauge cluster.

I hate hate hate touchscreens...Big fan of the iDrive and similar tactile controllers that German cars (and my Mazda CX-9) use.
 

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Touch screens and voice control might be good for some stuff, but gimme knobs and dials for stereo volume and climate control any day of the week. Maybe the Tesla has it on the steering wheel? Not sure. But you need to turn that stuff up/down in a hurry usually.

I work right down the street from the Tesla factory and you can feel the buzz around this car. I'm seeing less Model S / X on transports but haven't seen a truck full of 3s yet.. My co-worker spotted one on the highway last night, though.
 

NutBucket

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Climate control? On my Fozzy it's set to 70 and auto. I don't touch it most of the time. But I agree there had better be steering wheel buttons for volume and seek.
 

tweakmonkey

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Not climate specifically but fan speed or defrost. I don't want to be running through touch menus while trying to drive.
Climate control? On my Fozzy it's set to 70 and auto. I don't touch it most of the time. But I agree there had better be steering wheel buttons for volume and seek.
 

K1052

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Perfectly fine with me loosing the forest of buttons, switches, and knobs as long as the touch display is laid out in a reasonable manner.

I am also desperately hoping that lots of Model 3 units eventually make it into rental fleets. I've rented more cars than I care to think about and constantly being presented with totally different constellations of controls/menus/quirks has gotten real old.
 

bigi

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Speak for yourself, I much prefer buttons to touchscreens. I test drove the newest Pilot a while back and the biggest drawback was how much of the control was by touch screen, and it was awful (it's usually the biggest gripe of the vehicle, everything else is well praised). Looking at the Tesla being nothing BUT touch controls makes me very uneasy with where the future of automotive interiors is headed. I don't like it one bit... give me knobs and buttons. A large display is fine for information, but that shouldn't be the primary control method. It takes attention away from the road if you have to look at the screen to see what you're pressing.

Wasn't referring to touch vs knobs issue. What I had in mind was that ICE cars can't develop anymore in terms of gasoline burning propulsion. All we've see for decades is more crap crammed into cars of which not all is needed (see picture)

We need to move to EV, improve and optimize that instead of putting more 'luxury' items inside of ICE cars.

I like knobs and buttons myself, especially for the volume.
 

K1052

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Reportedly early reservation holders are starting to get the heads up now.
 

tweakmonkey

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Too bad the car in the right lane didn't also have auto pilot because it would've likely not attempted such a stupid maneuver. And if it had some type of p2p networking among other cars on the highway they would all work together.
 

Kaido

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Haha, the stage projector is being powered by a Model X.
 

Kaido

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Lots of rear headroom. They took the pano windshield on the X & put it on the back of the 3.

Haha, Musk just dissed Volvo. 5-star side-impact test on an S60 vs. the 3. Ouch. Wow lol. "The Volvo is the 2nd safest car in the world" hahaha.
 

Kaido

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10,000 unique parts. 2/3 from North America. One Gigafactory will produce more lithium-ion batteries than the rest of the world combined.

By the end of next year, there will be 3x as many Superchargers as there are today.

Model 3 Standard:

$35,000
220 mile range
5.6 sec 0-60mph
130mph top speed
Supercharging rate: 130 miles in 30 minutes
Home charging rate: 30 miles of range per hour (240V outlet, 32A) Long Range Model 3

Model 3 Long Range:

$44,000
310 mile range
5.1 sec 0-60mph
140mph top speed
Supercharging rate: 170 miles in 3 minutes
Home charging rate: 37 miles of range per hour (240V outlet, 40A)
 
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