Tess Holliday: 250 lb model

[Nebor]

You are wrong. End of story.
Sometimes I wonder that people can really be that ignorant. I mean I know that some people are just born dumb, they really can't learn. But I would think that most people could stand on a street corner and learn that what you are saying is just plain stupid.

I could try to correct your ignorance with some real fact based and scientifically backed information, but it does not really matter, you choose to be ignorant.

Every time I've seen a fat acceptance type try to defend their bullshit stance with fact and science they've gotten annihilated. Please see /r/fatlogic or /r/fatpeoplehate.

You're wrong. You're so simply, easily, verifiably wrong. Your body is not defying the laws the physics. It takes so many calories to maintain your current weight at your current level of activity. If you eat that many calories, your weight won't change. If you eat less, you'll lose weight. If you eat more, you'll gain weight. If you increase your activity while eating less, you'll lose weight even faster.

This has been proven time and again. Watch the show secret eaters. Every single person who ever claims that they're sticking to their calorie count is proven wrong. You're either eating "snacks" that you're not counting, or you're underestimating your portions.

I'm glad I can fire people for being fat. I'd go berserk if I had a job where I had to deal with this kind of disgusting, quitter mentality on a daily basis.

 

[Nebor]

Genetics being involved does not absolve one of responsibility. Genetics likely has something to do with one's proclivity for any number of maladies, but that doesn't make them socially acceptable. If a person is genetically predisposed to obesity, eating properly and getting exercise becomes even more important and fat people need to stop using it as a crutch.

This. You may be more genetically predisposed to have poor impulse control or an addictive personality. We know that sugar stimulates the same area of the brain as cocaine. That doesn't absolve you of responsibility.

And here's a news flash: Human genetics haven't changed in the last 100 years. You people realize that right? 100 years ago, this Tess Munster character would have literally been in a carnival freak show. We've watched the average American's weight increase dramatically over the last 50 years as more delicious food has become more readily available, and people have become more sedentary. That still doesn't absolve you of responsibility for being a fat ass.

 

[SKORPI0]

Pretty face, morbidly obese body. She could pass as a fat sister of this singer.

 

[88keys]

Every time I've seen a fat acceptance type try to defend their bullshit stance with fact and science they've gotten annihilated. Please see /r/fatlogic or /r/fatpeoplehate.

You're wrong. You're so simply, easily, verifiably wrong. Your body is not defying the laws the physics. It takes so many calories to maintain your current weight at your current level of activity. If you eat that many calories, your weight won't change. If you eat less, you'll lose weight. If you eat more, you'll gain weight. If you increase your activity while eating less, you'll lose weight even faster.

This has been proven time and again. Watch the show secret eaters. Every single person who ever claims that they're sticking to their calorie count is proven wrong. You're either eating "snacks" that you're not counting, or you're underestimating your portions.

I'm glad I can fire people for being fat. I'd go berserk if I had a job where I had to deal with this kind of disgusting, quitter mentality on a daily basis.

Of course people are dishonest about their daily intake and you probably are too.

You've clearly bought into the Fat Acceptance tumblrina bullshit. Out of every study ever done on the human metabolism, the greatest variation in metabolism, controlling for weight (obviously those with large amounts of muscle or fat will consume more calories to maintain that weight,) was less than 300 calories. Most studies have the variance at around 100 calories per day. We're all very similar machines running on very similar chemical reactions governed by the very strict laws of physics. Telling yourself otherwise is a crutch and a lie.

cite sources please.

While calories in/out is true, I know damn well that how our bodes burn and process calories is not very well established.

I've tracked my calories before when attempting to purposely gain weight. It's a struggle for me to break 5,000 calories a day. Conversely, it's very easy for me to eat less than 2,000 calories a day and accidentally lose weight. It's all in your head. There are worse things to be than hungry. I can be hungry for days at a time with no real impact on my well-being or mental state.

Good for you. I hope to one day reach your level of awesomeness.

That 90% of people will gain their weight back is the most ridiculous, quitter-encouraging nonsense I've ever seen, but all the fat acceptance people love to spout it every chance they get. As if change is impossible. Effort is pointless. Get the fuck out. I can gain 25lbs in 6 months and stay that size for a year, then lose that 25lbs in a month and stay that size for another year, then do it again. It's simple math and willpower. The study that they're quoting is a Finnish study of twins, in which the study's own author concluded that the differences in weight loss was entirely due to differences in exercise!

It's also the truth that one must face in order to make a difference. Willpower is easier said than done, and I'm pretty sure that you're full of shit.

This is the problem with fat logic, fat acceptance, health at every size and all this other body acceptance garbage. It's preying on people who are already weak willed (the obese) by encouraging them to fail and telling them it's ok when they do. How despicable is that? How about we start dumb acceptance? You're not good at math? Fuck math! Just don't do it. We're all equal anyway! Oh wait, you don't know equal means because you blew off math. That's ok snowflake, you're just as good all the other kids, even though you didn't put in the effort but expect the same outcome as those who did.

:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

It's okay bro. The rest of the world just isn't up to your standards and you shouldn't feel ashamed for being so awesome.

 

[BoberFett]

Translation: I have an opinion that is founded in ignorance and so I must express it in the most abrasive possible manner.


Tell me how much do you eat in a day. Like I said you're probably eating just as unhealthy as anyone else. You know that the CDC recommends no more than 25 grams of refined sugar per day and I'd bet you my last dollar that you've exceeded that by lunch time.

You are no better than anyone else and if you found yourself in a predicament where you had to lose weight and keep it off in the long term; statistically speaking you would most likely fail. This is coming from a person who has done it 4 times. I've made the changes and I know what it takes and I know that most people lack the will power to do it in the long haul and statistically speaking; I am right.

You can call people fat and lazy all day long, but it doesn't change the fact that you're a judgemental asshole.


Why don't you tell us about some of the big changes you have made in your life to make it better. It's not as easy as you think.

Cry more, tubby.

 

[Nebor]

Translation: I have an opinion that is founded in ignorance and so I must express it in the most abrasive possible manner.


Tell me how much do you eat in a day. Like I said you're probably eating just as unhealthy as anyone else. You know that the CDC recommends no more than 25 grams of refined sugar per day and I'd bet you my last dollar that you've exceeded that by lunch time.

You are no better than anyone else and if you found yourself in a predicament where you had to lose weight and keep it off in the long term; statistically speaking you would most likely fail. This is coming from a person who has done it 4 times. I've made the changes and I know what it takes and I know that most people lack the will power to do it in the long haul and statistically speaking; I am right.

You can call people fat and lazy all day long, but it doesn't change the fact that you're a judgemental asshole.


Why don't you tell us about some of the big changes you have made in your life to make it better. It's not as easy as you think.

Lookit, fatty. Plenty of people can count calories, work out, and have complete control of their weight.

In 2010 I gained 25lbs while I was in Afghanistan! So going on patrols, running outside at a high altitude, and eating a ton of chitty food. I was drinking 16 cartons of UHT shelf-stable milk a day. My squat, deadlift and bench nearly doubled over the year.

Then I came back, got a little lazy with my diet and over the course of a few months lost all that weight by eating normally and continuing to work out the same.

From March 2014 until July 2014 I drank a gallon of milk a day and ate 5 meals a day, keeping between 5,000 and 8,000 calories a day. It was rough to eat so much, but I gained around 30lbs. Unfortunately, I was doing a lot of long distance running before and during that, and at some point developed a foot injury because, get this, our bodies aren't great at supporting rapid weight gain. And excess weight puts a lot of stress on your hips, knees and ankles. So in August 2014 I lost all the weight I'd gained over the past 5 months. I just stopped eating so much, took 2 weeks off running and then went back to running & the gym every day. I go to several running groups, and people noticed that I was a lot smaller because I'd lost about 30lbs in the span of 4 weeks. The girl I was dating at the time was amazed and thought it was impossible.

Anyone can do it. You just need discipline. If you don't have the discipline, you can pay someone to have it for you. There are fat camps for adults that really work!

I was talking to a girl I used to date that just went in today for her physical with her new employer & insurance company. They give you a discount based on your BMI, cholesterol levels, activity level, fruit & vegetable intake, etc. Then the company let's them earn extra paid time off based on tracking their Fitbits! That's the future folks. That's what the fatties have forced us to do.

When I get to my next assignment in July I'm going to look into using fitbits as part of the weight control program. Finally I'll be able to prove that fatties aren't actually working out and be able to fire them that much faster.

 

[BoberFett]

Of course people are dishonest about their daily intake and you probably are too.

And? I'm not morbidly obese. If I was, I'd have nobody to blame but myself.

While calories in/out is true, I know damn well that how our bodes burn and process calories is not very well established.

It doesn't have to be. Most people don't understand the chemical reactions involved in the internal combustion engine either, but that doesn't stop them from steering the wheel and stepping on pedals. The rules are simple. Eat more, move less, gain weight. Eat less, move more, lose weight.

It's also the truth that one must face in order to make a difference. Willpower is easier said than done, and I'm pretty sure that you're full of shit.

It's okay bro. The rest of the world just isn't up to your standards and you shouldn't feel ashamed for being so awesome.

Apparently knobheads like you would rather change the world for the worse than hurt anybody's precious feelings. Are you really surprised not everybody is on board with that?

 

[Nebor]

Of course people are dishonest about their daily intake and you probably are too.

cite sources please.

While calories in/out is true, I know damn well that how our bodes burn and process calories is not very well established.

Good for you. I hope to one day reach your level of awesomeness.

It's also the truth that one must face in order to make a difference. Willpower is easier said than done, and I'm pretty sure that you're full of shit.

It's okay bro. The rest of the world just isn't up to your standards and you shouldn't feel ashamed for being so awesome.

My friends were joking about how much junk food I eat when I travel for work, so I decided to see how much crap I could actually eat during a 2 week visit to the Infantry school at Fort Benning. I was running 3-5 miles a day (on a treadmill) and lifted weights 5 times during the two weeks (gym was overcrowded.) I documented everything religiously:

Starting weight: 170.6lbs

Sunday March 15th, 2907 calories:
Bakery Loraine- Sausage, egg & cheese sandwich on English muffin w/ oatmeal: 700 calories
One Flew South- California Roll: 251 calories
Kamikaze Roll: 316 calories
Berry Smoothie: 350 calories
Taco Bell- sriracha quesarito: 650 calories
Dorito Taco Supreme: 200 calories
Soft Taco Supreme: 220 calories
Kit-Kat Bar: 220 calories

Monday March 16th, 4959 calories:
3 pieces of bacon: 160 calories
3 eggs: 215 calories
Biscuit with jam: 400 calories
Apple juice 2 cups: 240 calories
Banana: 105 calories
Yogurt: 110 calories
Sonic- double bacon cheeseburger :1240 calories
Tater tots: 340 calories
Cookie dough master blast: 840 calories
Shogun Hibachi- Philadelphia roll: 320 calories
Rainbow roll: 489 calories
Large sake: 300 calories
20 oz. Sapporo beer: 200 calories

Tuesday March 17th, 5185 calories:
Hard boiled egg: 45 calories
3 pieces of bacon: 160 calories
Biscuit with jam: 400 calories
Yogurt: 110 calories
Apple juice: 120 calories
Coconut water: 170 calories
Charlie's subs- BBQ cheddar steak sandwich: 1160 calories
Ultimate fries: 720 calories
Cannon brew pub-bbq chicken fondue with pretzel bread: 800
bacon, avocado cheeseburger: 1300 calories
22 oz golden ale: 200 calories

Wednesday March 18th, 3630 calories:
Peanut butter dark chocolate Kind bar: 200 calories
Rice krispy treat: 250 calories
Taco bell- three dorito taco supremes: 600 calories
Reeses ice cream shake: 580 calories
Muscle milk: 120 calories
Medium pepporoni, mushroom and olive pizza: 1,880 calories

Thursday March 19th, 3850 calories:
Dunkin Donuts-creme filled donut: 340 calories
6 donut holes: 460 calories
Subway-chicken bacon ranch sub: 1140 calories
Jalapeno potato chips: 210 calories
Protein shake: 800 calories
Taco bell-2 chicken chalupas: 680 calories
Soft taco supreme: 220 calories

Friday March 20th, 3875 calories:
Boiled egg: 45 calories
Biscuit with jam: 400 calories
Sausage patty: 100 calories
Yogurt: 110 calories
Apple juice: 120 calories
12" pepperoni pizza: 1800 calories
Margarita: 300 calories
Queso & chips: 300 calories
Fried shrimp: 200 calories
Red snapper with rice & shrimp: 500 calories

Saturday March 21st, 3800 calories:
2 Boiled eggs: 90 calories
Biscuit with jam: 400 calories
Three pieces of bacon: 160 calories
Yogurt: 110 calories
Apple juice: 120 calories
Taco bell- three dorito taco supremes: 600 calories
Venti java chip Frappuccino: 600 calories
Peanut butter dark chocolate Kind bar: 200 calories
Muscle milk: 120 calories
Hummus & pita: 200 calories
Dolma: 100 calories
Lamb & rice: 700 calories
Three beers: 400 calories

Sunday March 22nd, 3435 calories:
Blueberry bagel with strawberry cream cheese: 500 calories
Cronut: 300 calories
Banana: 105 calories
Shrimp and grits: 800 calories
Beer: 150 calories
Mimosa: 150 calories
Bloody Mary: 150 calories
Theater nachos: 400 calories
Bojangles: 4 piece fried chicken: 360 calories
Biscuit: 280 calories
Mac n cheese: 240 calories

Monday March 23rd, 4642 calories:
2 Boiled eggs: 90 calories
Biscuit with jam: 400 calories
Three pieces of bacon: 160 calories
Apple juice: 120 calories
Firehouse subs: Jalapeno potato chips: 190 calories
Large hero sub: 1154 calories
Strawberries: 50 calories
Peanut butter dark chocolate Kind bar: 200 calories
Turkey: 334 calories
broccoli: 210 calories
baked beans: 179 calories
30oz Fat Tire beer: 250 calories
Chocolate cake with ice cream: 1305 calories

Tuesday March 24th, 3996 calories:
2 Boiled eggs: 90 calories
Biscuit with jam: 400 calories
Sausage patty:100 calories
Yogurt: 110 calories
Apple juice: 120 calories
Banana: 105 calories
Wendy's- grilled chicken sandwich: 370 calories
French fries: 410 calories
Carrabba's- calamari: 1526 calories
Lasagna: 756 calories

Wednesday March 25th, 3070 calories:
2 Boiled eggs: 90 calories
Biscuit with honey: 400 calories
Three pieces of bacon: 160 calories
Apple juice: 120 calories
Yogurt: 120 calories
Fish: 200 calories
Dirty rice: 100 calories
Cottage cheese: 100 calories
Strawberry cake: 250 calories
Peanut butter dark chocolate Kind bar: 200 calories
Turkey: 200 calories
Baked beans: 180 calories
Potato salad: 150 calories
Cornbread: 200 calories
Quart of terrapin beer: 300 calories
40 oz Heineken: 300 calories

Thursday March 26th, 2848 calories:
2 Boiled eggs: 90 calories
Apple juice: 120 calories
Yogurt: 120 calories
Banana: 105 calories
Cheeseburger: 343 calories
Fries: 400 calories
Fried apple pies with ice cream: 650 calories
Taco bell- three dorito taco supremes: 600 calories
Two kind chocolate cranberry nut bars: 360 calories
11oz coconut water: 60 calories

Friday March 27th, 1545 calories:
Blueberry scone: 420 calories
Raising Cane's Box Combo: 1125 calories


Total: 47,742 calories in 12 days
Ending Weight: 174.8lbs
Weight gained 4.2 lbs
Excess calories: 14,700 or 1,225 per day


FYI I just weighed myself for you, and I'm 172.6 lbs at 74" tall. I had one cup of coffee for breakfast, a taco bell quesorito big box for lunch (off the top of my head around 900 calories,) and nothing since then.

 

[88keys]

Not gonna feed into a bunch of immature shit heads who think being a tough guy is the answer to everything so I'm going to offer something realistic based on my personal experiences with weight loss.




I've lost and gained an extreme amount of weight several times and my last weight loss endeavor has caused me to take a different approach.
I realized that my problem is that I have a sweet tooth and so I decided to eliminate them completely and replace them with fruits, nuts and yogurt to be consumed after meals. I stick to roughly 2500 calories per day spread across 5 meals so I'm rarely hungry. (Right now I've made small changes and I've added 60 grams of protein per day while reducing fat and sugar intake to build muscle and added 200-300 calories on lifting days.) For me, this is what worked because I think it was sugar addiction in my case and I have never felt this free of temptation before.




This may or may not work for others, but my advice to anyone trying to lose weight is to take an honest look at their diet and activities and make small changes. If those changes work, stick with them. If not, try something else. It's a lifestyle change and you need to meet both nutritional and psychological needs to keep it off successfully. It might be as simple as diet and exercise in the short term, but it most certainly is not in the long term. You need to change the way you look at things any change you make to your habits and daily activities must be seen as a permanent change and so you need to make sure you can live with that change.
And if you or someone finds a placebo that works, just remember that a placebo could be better than no treatment at all.

 

[Ns1]

Not gonna feed into a bunch of immature shit heads who think being a tough guy is the answer to everything so I'm going to offer something realistic based on my personal experiences with weight loss.




I've lost and gained an extreme amount of weight several times and my last weight loss endeavor has caused me to take a different approach.
I realized that my problem is that I have a sweet tooth and so I decided to eliminate them completely and replace them with fruits, nuts and yogurt to be consumed after meals. I stick to roughly 2500 calories per day spread across 5 meals so I'm rarely hungry. (Right now I've made small changes and I've added 60 grams of protein per day while reducing fat and sugar intake to build muscle and added 200-300 calories on lifting days.) For me, this is what worked because I think it was sugar addiction in my case and I have never felt this free of temptation before.




This may or may not work for others, but my advice to anyone trying to lose weight is to take an honest look at their diet and activities and make small changes. If those changes work, stick with them. If not, try something else. It's a lifestyle change and you need to meet both nutritional and psychological needs to keep it off successfully. It might be as simple as diet and exercise in the short term, but it most certainly is not in the long term. You need to change the way you look at things any change you make to your habits and daily activities must be seen as a permanent change and so you need to make sure you can live with that change.
And if you or someone finds a placebo that works, just remember that a placebo could be better than no treatment at all.

From your post, it does most certainly seem that simple.

 

[88keys]

From your post, it does most certainly seem that simple.

you missed the point.

 

[Ns1]

you missed the point.

Why don't you break it down for me. I can't seem to get past the "calories in < calories out" weight loss concept that you appear to have validated.

 

[bradley]

The calories in/calories out theory is only true in a test tube. The truth is that everyone has different internal organs and metabolizes thousands of different compounds at a varying rates based on a multitude of factors. For instance, some people don't even have adequate amounts of the healthy gut bacteria and bile required to digest fats and fat soluble vitamins in general.

I wonder if this woman realizes the amount of daily distress placed on her internal organs. It's greater than all the verbal assaults she has likely withstood.

She can't change ignorant people, but can start with herself. First thing, I would buy her a blender with a profound introduction to the world of low-oxalic green vegetables.

 

[Ns1]

The calories in/calories out theory is only true in a test tube. The truth is that everyone has different internal organs and metabolizes thousands of different compounds at a varying rates based on a multitude of factors. For instance, some people don't even have adequate amounts of the healthy gut bacteria and bile required to digest fats and fat soluble vitamins in general.

okay, so I'll agree that the calories in/calories out theory probably doesn't apply to the 2% of the population that is actually affected by genetic issues.

The rest of them are just lazy fatties.

 

[bradley]

Tess was likely never taught discipline or proper nutrition and eating habits. Obviously people deal with emotional issues differently. What better way to ease your pain than with comfort foods, which most of the time are carb-laden.

 

[lxskllr]

okay, so I'll agree that the calories in/calories out theory probably doesn't apply to the 2% of the population that is actually affected by genetic issues.

The rest of them are just lazy fatties.

I don't buy it then. You can't make something out of nothing. One donut doesn't turn into 10# of weight. Granted, some people put on the weight easier than others, so keeping it off will take a little more work, but we all have our crosses to bear.

 

[88keys]

Why don't you break it down for me. I can't seem to get past the "calories in < calories out" weight loss concept that you appear to have validated.

I never invalidated it. Please read before responding.

I'm just saying that it's true but in the long term it's not that simple.

You can eat 2500 calories worth ofood ice cream and cake and lose weight if you burn of more than that. However it's not a very nutritious plan and not viable in the long term.

You could eat nothing but broccoli, nuts, celery, spinach etc and lose weight but ist that something you can stick with in the long term.

The point is that you have to think ahead when it comesee to your plan. You can eat like a bird but if you can't stick that diet there is a high probability that you'll gain tour weight back.


Not to mention that I know from personal experiences that what your calories consist of and your eating schedule can increase or decrease the overall effectiveNess of your diet.

A long time ago I would skip breakfast and consume 1600 calories per day And lose weight. But then I added breakfast and went up to 2200 calories and broke the rest of my calroes into smaller meals and lost weight even faster.

 

[Ns1]

You could eat nothing but broccoli, nuts, celery, spinach etc and lose weight but ist that something you can stick with in the long term.

Sure you can, you just need willpower.


Alternatively eat whatever the fuck you want but work out like Michael Phelps.

 

[Nebor]

The calories in/calories out theory is only true in a test tube. The truth is that everyone has different internal organs and metabolizes thousands of different compounds at a varying rates based on a multitude of factors. For instance, some people don't even have adequate amounts of the healthy gut bacteria and bile required to digest fats and fat soluble vitamins in general.

I wonder if this woman realizes the amount of daily distress placed on her internal organs. It's greater than all the verbal assaults she has likely withstood.

She can't change ignorant people, but can start with herself. First thing, I would buy her a blender with a profound introduction to the world of low-oxalic green vegetables.

Holy smokes, really? Can you tell us which of the standard 22 internal organs you're missing? Or more interestingly, any additional ones that you have?

 

[Nebor]

okay, so I'll agree that the calories in/calories out theory probably doesn't apply to the 2% of the population that is actually affected by genetic issues.

The rest of them are just lazy fatties.

Less than 1% of people are impacted by thyroid disorders. And they're all easily treated.

 

[pauldun170]

Pretty face, morbidly obese body. She could pass as a fat sister of this singer.

Her actual face.

All dolled up for the gun show

 

[bradley]

Less than 1% of people are impacted by thyroid disorders. And they're all easily treated.

More than 12% of all Americans will suffer a thyroid disorder in their lifetimes. More than half go unrecognized and still not easily treated when they are recognized.

Engines have varying efficiencies and are fairly simple instruments compared to the wildly complex and random human body. We all oxidize foods at different rates. Even different fuel mixtures change that efficiency. Eating more fibrous foods will blunt the body's insulin response and store less fat.

There are enough hormonal differences between men and women that have them storing more fat and less muscle, even with identical diets and activity levels.

The burning of calories is not a constant either for anyone who has ever researched high-intensity interval training vs. regular aerobic exercise. More fat will be burned as fuel during interval training. As the body adapts, it will become ever more efficient at cellular respiration and turning glucose into fuel.

Do you have enough digestive enzymes and good gut bacteria, insulin resistance, a glandular, mitochondrial or metabolic disorder, a fatty liver, gallstones, irritable bowels to name the numerous conditions affecting digestive health? I know a simplistic grade school view tells one otherwise, but we aren't machines that burn 100% of everything we consume.

 

[Iron Woode]

why is it that fat, ugly women tattoo and pierce themselves and then add ridiculous hair and then demand that everyone should think they're hot?

she is not hot. she is morbidly obese and nasty.

so, I give you this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN_VwMb8m2M

:awe:

PS: crying 'fat shaming' is code for 'I don't want to accept reality. I want everyone to believe my fantasy'.

 

[Jeff7]

The standard is worse for women by a large margin. Ever notice how many average looking men are on TV? Ever notice that there wives on these shows are all well above average (unless they are supposed to be ugly as a part of a comedy).
The fact is that average looking women can't get a part in a TV show no matter their talent, while average or even ugly men can if they have the talent.

Women are for the most part the object being acted on, so it is their looks that mostly matter, while men are the actors so it is their acting that matters.





Maybe no cancer, but alcohol dependence is glorified all the time on TV.

:hmm: I might just be really out of touch with what's on TV.

 

[88keys]

Sure you can, you just need willpower.


Alternatively eat whatever the fuck you want but work out like Michael Phelps.

You are very dense and you need to work on reading comprehension.