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in crystal diskinfo not scan this software
my hdd
Looks ok to me. Stop worrying so much!

Just keep running CrystalDiskInfo everyday and if the drive color changes to yellow, that's when you know something is not right.

Case closed.

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Parece ok para mim. Pare de se preocupar tanto!

Continue executando o CrystalDiskInfo todos os dias e, se a cor da unidade mudar para amarelo, é quando você sabe que algo não está certo.

Caso encerrado.

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Does Crystal Diskinfo use SMART to detect the status of the HDD?

Is there a risk that someone could reset SMART to make the disk appear to be new, unused and error-free?
 
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Does Crystal Diskinfo use SMART to detect the status of the HDD?

Is there a risk that someone could reset SMART to make the disk appear to be new, unused and error-free?
Yes, Crystal Disk Info uses SMART.

Yes, SMART values can be reset that's why you shouldn't buy from unauthorized or shady dealers. If the drive's price was too good to be true, you possibly got a used drive.
 

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If they reset SMART, is the only way to find out the true health of the HDD the surface tests or generic long test from seatools?
 
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If they reset SMART, is the only way to find out the true health of the HDD the surface tests or generic long test from seatools?
The best way to find out the health is a destructive write test that will write to every sector and then try to read the value and compare to see if the read value matches the original written value.


sudo badblocks -c 2048 -b 4096 -sw /dev/sda
Testing with pattern 0xaa: done
Reading and comparing: done
Testing with pattern 0x55: done
Reading and comparing: done
Testing with pattern 0xff: 51.96% done, 104:14:39 elapsed. (0/0/0 errors)

See that reading and comparing part? If it's done without errors, the disk is fine.

How to run badblocks in Windows? https://superuser.com/questions/338067/equivalent-of-badblocks-on-windows-or-dos



Now go run that bad boy badblocks and only return once you have something concrete to share with us.
 

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if the hdd has some badblocks and bad sectors and the files are written in good sectors and tested without corruption and the HDD is stored during storage the good sectors become bad and the file sectors become bad and corrupt these written files??
 

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Isolate SeaTools - close all other applications before running a hard disk diagnostic. The main reason for this is to keep the drive focused on SeaTools as much as possible.

There is a reason I previously advised (in your multiple threads) do not run ANY other applications while attempting to run SeaTools, particularly any hard disk utilities that try to access SMART data. I was trying to perform a long SMART test with surface scan on my 2TB Western Digital SATA drive a couple months ago, using Western Digital's Drive Utilites. The utility would start out fine but would halt with some generic error. I check all PM settings to be sure the PC would "never" enter sleep, standby, etc.

I finally tracked it down to Crystal Disk Info automatic refresh drive and SMART data at particular intervals e.g. every five minutes. I also saw this same problem when running HD Sentinel. After killing other drive utilities that were vying for access drive and SMART data, the Western Digital utility proceeded and finish without error.

Of course if you use the bootable version of Seatools (or any other manufacturer utility), this won't be any problem since you can't run other applications, anyway.
 
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if the hdd has some badblocks and bad sectors and the files are written in good sectors and tested without corruption and the HDD is stored during storage the good sectors become bad and the file sectors become bad and corrupt these written files??
Cannot say for sure. Usually bad sectors mean there is some problem with the mechanical head or the chipset or physical quality control issue with the platter surface or some really really tiny microscopic creature got inside and pooped on the sector (tardigrades must poop, no?). Remember one thing: a healthy HDD has NO bad sectors. Zero. If there ever were, they were marked out as bad during the initial manufacturing stage. Hard drives only develop bad sectors when something goes wrong inside them. And also, bad sectors can be soft or hard. Soft sectors can be repaired and often the HDD head is able to read the data from them for a while. This allows you to make a clone of that disk or copy important data off the disk without losing anything. HDD Regenerator is one such software that can "fix" soft sectors. Hard bad sectors are permanent. The HDD head will get stuck trying to read these and won't be able to get past them.
 

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There is a reason I previously advised (in your multiple threads) do not run ANY other applications while attempting to run SeaTools, particularly any hard disk utilities that try to access SMART data. I was trying to perform a long SMART test with surface scan on my 2TB Western Digital SATA drive a couple months ago, using Western Digital's Drive Utilites. The utility would start out fine but would halt with some generic error. I check all PM settings to be sure the PC would "never" enter sleep, standby, etc.

I finally tracked it down to Crystal Disk Info automatic refresh drive and SMART data at particular intervals e.g. every five minutes. I also saw this same problem when running HD Sentinel. After killing other drive utilities that were vying for access drive and SMART data, the Western Digital utility proceeded and finish without error.

Of course if you use the bootable version of Seatools (or any other manufacturer utility), this won't be any problem since you can't run other applications, anyway.
what link latest bootable seatools?

is it necessary to use this bootable even if seatools passed without errors?

I didn't understand, you said that if I open the crystal at the time of the seatools scan, the errors are hidden from verification?

I did a generic long test in the common seatools and pc windows 10 the HDD passed
when I did the scan with seatools only the chrome browser was open and I have 16gb of ram and the scan went all the way to the end hdd passed
 
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tcsenter

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I didn't understand, you said that if I open the crystal at the time of the seatools scan, the errors are hidden from verification?

NO, that if you run Crystal Disk (or other utility) and Seatools at the same time, Seatools is likely to "abort" and display an error, like you were describing in the other thread.

The scan aborts at 3% and the drives disconnect from my computer. Crystal Disk Info and SeaTools then remove the USB cable and plug it in again and everything works again.

I do not know how much more clear it could be made. e.g.
tcsenter:

Do not have Crystal Disk Info running while you run another utility that tries to get direct (or exclusive) access to a disk. Close out Crystal Disk Info and try again.
 
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