Tevatron Accelerator(at FermiLab) shutting down

Brigandier

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FermiLab Shutdown Process

FermiLab cannot secure $100 million funding for three years of additional research, and the Tevatron Accelerator is shutting down. Let the brain drain of America begin.
 
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ichy

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Fermilab is not shutting down. The Tevatron accelerator at Fermilab is.
 

K1052

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Correct. We will continue to do this type of science, but the Tevatron has served its purpose. Time for something new at Fermilab:

http://arstechnica.com/science/news...-dark-fermilab-ponders-a-muon-rich-future.ars

Given the current state of the economy and politics I can't see Congress funding even the most preliminary work on a Muon Collider for a number of years. Without another major project to replace the Tevatron it is entirely conceivable that Fermilab could be defunded and closed in the coming years.
 

a777pilot

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Way to go there Bobo, the Post Turtle.

I guess there were no big political donors to the Democrat party or Bobo, the Post Turtle, there.
 

hal2kilo

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Way to go there Bobo, the Post Turtle.

I guess there were no big political donors to the Democrat party or Bobo, the Post Turtle, there.

Forgot to use the Quote button.


And this is Obama's fault, how?
 

K1052

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Yet Solyndra got over $500 Million?

Fern

Fermilab's funding has been declining and in further jeopardy since the mid-2000s IIRC, various earmarks have been the only thing keeping the Tevatron running. Any Federal commitment to a new major particle physics project like the ILC or the Muon Collider will run into the numerous billions of dollars.
 

a777pilot

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Way to go there Bobo, the Post Turtle.

I guess there were no big political donors to the Democrat party or Bobo, the Post Turtle, there.

Forgot to use the Quote button.


And this is Obama's fault, how?

Why would I need to use the quote button? Those are my words expressing my opinion.
 

a777pilot

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Fermilab's funding has been declining and in further jeopardy since the mid-2000s IIRC, various earmarks have been the only thing keeping the Tevatron running. Any Federal commitment to a new major particle physics project like the ILC or the Muon Collider will run into the numerous billions of dollars.

Those billions wasted on this green energy shit would be better used for science than politics.
 

Bryf50

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From what I understand its simply obsolete. The biggest dissapointment was the failure of the SSC. 2 Billion down the drain for nothing. Would've been 3 times more powerful then the LHC. And this was over 15 years ago.
 
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freegeeks

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I'm sure all the top Fermilab physcist can get a job in Europe working for CERN
They will be more then welcome
 

Locut0s

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I'm sure all the top Fermilab physcist can get a job in Europe working for CERN
They will be more then welcome

I'm sure they will get jobs, can't get much better qualifications in that field than having worked at Fermilab. But I'm sure CERN has lots of scientists of their own, not sure they could take on that many extra?
 

freegeeks

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I'm sure they will get jobs, can't get much better qualifications in that field than having worked at Fermilab. But I'm sure CERN has lots of scientists of their own, not sure they could take on that many extra?

There is always a place for the best and brightest. The top guys/gals should not have a problem finding employment with something like CERN. They are still expanding, new experiments and equipment coming online every year so I would say that it should not be a big problem.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Way to go there Bobo, the Post Turtle.

I guess there were no big political donors to the Democrat party or Bobo, the Post Turtle, there.

The Tevatron is the model "T" of accelerators. Why would you pay to put one of those in a professional race? From a scientific standpoint it's useless and if you think Republicans are going to support a new research project of the magnitude necessary (read expense) then you would be wrong. High energy physics is now a European monopoly.
 

a777pilot

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The Tevatron is the model "T" of accelerators. Why would you pay to put one of those in a professional race? From a scientific standpoint it's useless and if you think Republicans are going to support a new research project of the magnitude necessary (read expense) then you would be wrong. High energy physics is now a European monopoly.

You can thank Clinton and that big hole in Boston.
 

totalnoob

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I thought this was the thingie that was going to test Fermi's results on neutrinos going faster than light? Can they still do that?
 
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