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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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lol all this because i called a survey junk science. somebody got triggered, want your pacifier and blankie?

this is not a science class or a court i am not obligated to prove shit to you but if you insist on being lazy I will google it for you. Lots of info to educate your sorry self with, so have fun and good bye.

https://www.google.com/search?q=are...rome..69i57.8447j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
The only person who appears to be triggered is the shit poster asked to back up his assertions. So sorry this isn't a safe space for you to poop out posts without being questioned.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Scientifically conducted survey >> Anecdotal evidence.

While the Surveys do show that men are more opposed than women. But a large percentage of women do in fact care.

" But surveys show that those most concerned about transgender people using women’s restrooms aren’t women."

These surveys were just opinion polls.

A Reuters survey, meanwhile, found that 44 percent of women were okay with letting a transgender person use the women’s restroom, while 39 percent said they’d rather people use facilities that match their birth gender.

The 44 percent OK with it and the 39 percent not OK with it are probably within the margin of error anyway.

But don't make the assumption of some and say that: "There are literally no women who have this fear". Quite a few actually do regardless if it is justified or not.

In my opinion they should make separate "Alphabet" Restrooms for these people so that nobody is imposed upon.
 
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Ruptga

Lifer
Aug 3, 2006
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While the Surveys do show that men are more opposed than women. But a large percentage of women do in fact care.

" But surveys show that those most concerned about transgender people using women’s restrooms aren’t women."

These surveys were just opinion polls.

A Reuters survey, meanwhile, found that 44 percent of women were okay with letting a transgender person use the women’s restroom, while 39 percent said they’d rather people use facilities that match their birth gender.

The 44 percent OK with it and the 39 percent not OK with it are probably within the margin of error anyway.

But don't make the assumption of some and say that: "There are literally no women who have this fear". Quite a few actually do regardless if it is justified or not.

In my opinion they should make separate "Alphabet" Restrooms for these people so that nobody is imposed upon.
"probably"
The poll of 2,039 people was taken April 12-18, amid running controversies on the issue in several states, and has a credibility interval of 2.5 percentage points.
If I'm reading that right, then if all of their errors went just the right way then there's a tie, but that is very unlikely.

Looking at the big picture, opinions are currently mixed but young people definitely have fewer problems with it than the middle and old aged. This controversy will practically be forgotten after a couple generations, like so many other social controversies.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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I agree with the general sentiment here that these laws are stupid and unnecessary. The "regular guy sexual predator claiming to be a tranny just to get your daughter" spill is nothing but a way to justify discriminating against transsexuals.

The only positive outcome to this would be that crazy doesn't take over like it tends to do and force businesses/schools/etc to have to spend an enormous sum of money investing in more bathrooms. I do feel the whole thought of gender spectrums is a crock of shite and transsexuals suffer from a mental disorder (and more importantly parents imposing this on their kids are committing child abuse), society can survive just fine and dandy without these laws in place. And that goes for both pro and anti trans bathroom laws, neither is necessary and both cause more harm than good.
 
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Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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I agree with the general sentiment here that these laws are stupid and unnecessary. The "regular guy sexual predator claiming to be a tranny just to get your daughter" spill is nothing but a way to justify discriminating against transsexuals.

The only positive outcome to this would be that crazy doesn't take over like it tends to do and force businesses/schools/etc to have to spend an enormous sum of money investing in more bathrooms. I do feel the whole thought of gender spectrums is a crock of shite and transsexuals suffer from a mental disorder (and more importantly parents imposing this on their kids are committing child abuse), society can survive just fine and dandy without these laws in place. And that goes for both pro and anti trans bathroom laws, neither is necessary and both cause more harm than good.
I would submit to you that the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which includes every single amendment since that time, implies equality in all matters and that its only a matter of time before another administrative law is enacted adding LGBT rights in the area of restrooms. The trend initialized with the declaration that females would have equal facilities in this area then progressed to remove barriers to race. In keeping with this trend the LGBT's will eventually also have equal facilities in order to maintain equality and I believe that they are entitled to it. Our constitution declares that all men were created equally which expressly declares that we are all entitled to equal rights.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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I would submit to you that the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which includes every single amendment since that time, implies equality in all matters and that its only a matter of time before another administrative law is enacted adding LGBT rights in the area of restrooms. The trend initialized with the declaration that females would have equal facilities in this area then progressed to remove barriers to race. In keeping with this trend the LGBT's will eventually also have equal facilities in order to maintain equality and I believe that they are entitled to it. Our constitution declares that all men were created equally which expressly declares that we are all entitled to equal rights.

I reject your submission wholeheartedly. You are born one gender and your rights end there. You don't change your rights when you think you are another gender altogether, just as you cannot change your race. I would submit the white woman who ran the NAACP chapter claiming to be black but was exposed as white.

Gender confused individuals will simply have to wait until they get home or use designated facilities. Pandering to a few to the detriment of all has been wrongheaded and stupid.

We survived several thousand years without it and will continue to do so.

The end.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I think Texans should be more concerned where their legislators defecate, cause they are shitting all over that population.
 

Commodus

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 2004
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I reject your submission wholeheartedly. You are born one gender and your rights end there. You don't change your rights when you think you are another gender altogether, just as you cannot change your race. I would submit the white woman who ran the NAACP chapter claiming to be black but was exposed as white.

Gender confused individuals will simply have to wait until they get home or use designated facilities. Pandering to a few to the detriment of all has been wrongheaded and stupid.

We survived several thousand years without it and will continue to do so.

The end.

No, not the end. Also, it's funny how you try to claim the moral high ground when you'd genuinely like to see people suffer to protect the ideas that were drilled into your brain growing up.

You're permanently on the wrong side of history. You're going to have to get used to it.
 
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Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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Gun owners are quick to remind liberals that laws against guns often lack effectiveness as the people who obey the law would not use them to kill needlessly, while those that would not obey the law are the source of all the problems. And the thing is, they're right. Which brings us to these bathroom laws. We're told that we need laws requiring your birth sex to align with the bathroom you use because if we don't then creepy guys are going to ruthlessly rape your wife or daughter.

But here's the thing; the people who don't care about laws against rape or sexual assault are not going to be deterred by a birth sex law. Those that would follow the law inversely aren't the type to rape people. The legislation accomplishes effectively nothing and serves as nothing more than a distraction. So long as the masses are caught up talking about this shit they're less likely to be talking about how their politicians are failing them for the sake of special interests.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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No, not the end. Also, it's funny how you try to claim the moral high ground when you'd genuinely like to see people suffer to protect the ideas that were drilled into your brain growing up.

You're permanently on the wrong side of history. You're going to have to get used to it.

Im not claiming anything other than what you and everybody else already has and that is common sense. And sometimes you need to be reminded of it. Texas does not put up with nonsense.

We just say no.
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Im not claiming anything other than what you and everybody else already has and that is common sense. And sometimes you need to be reminded of it. Texas does not put up with nonsense.

We just say no.
Texas "culture" is based on the most ridiculous nonsense so you'll have to do better.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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I do not begrudge Texans for their culture. I can't say I entirely understand it, though I imagine they could probably say the same of my own culture up north. To that end, I'm not going to stand here and give a condescending lecture on the pretenses of having some supposed moral superiority. Certainly though I'm left to question the actual effectiveness of this legislation. I believe attempting to turn this into a hot button issue is little more than a smoke screen to be used for politician's other antics, antics that may be given more media attention if not for theatrics like this.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Im not claiming anything other than what you and everybody else already has and that is common sense. And sometimes you need to be reminded of it. Texas does not put up with nonsense.

We just say no.

Nonsense is a relative term. One man's nonsense is another's truth.

As important as it could be for a fellow New Jerseyan that Healthcare be truly accessible to all, for example, a proud Texan could say fuck that, it's communism.
 

leper84

Senior member
Dec 29, 2011
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Gun owners are quick to remind liberals that laws against guns often lack effectiveness as the people who obey the law would not use them to kill needlessly, while those that would not obey the law are the source of all the problems. And the thing is, they're right. Which brings us to these bathroom laws. We're told that we need laws requiring your birth sex to align with the bathroom you use because if we don't then creepy guys are going to ruthlessly rape your wife or daughter.

But here's the thing; the people who don't care about laws against rape or sexual assault are not going to be deterred by a birth sex law. Those that would follow the law inversely aren't the type to rape people. The legislation accomplishes effectively nothing and serves as nothing more than a distraction. So long as the masses are caught up talking about this shit they're less likely to be talking about how their politicians are failing them for the sake of special interests.

The intent of this law that seems to be flying waaaayyyy the fuck over everyone's heads is this bill isn't to prevent people from sneaking into the wrong restroom. Its to prevent perverts from having a legal right to use the wrong restroom.

If the city of Austin passes a law saying transgendered people can choose their restroom then that means any dude can stroll right into the women's restroom, say "I'm a girl" and have a legal right to be there. This is the State saying not happening here.

Legitimately transgendered people in Texas have been choosing their restroom for a long time and I've never heard of one being assaulted or arrested in the last 20 years. What this bill really does is say if you are born a man and using the women's restroom, you are going to be someone living full-time passing off as a woman.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Nonsense is a relative term. One man's nonsense is another's truth.

As important as it could be for a fellow New Jerseyan that Healthcare be truly accessible to all, for example, a proud Texan could say fuck that, it's communism.

What was lost in the whole healthcare debate was that it was pretty much already accessible to all. In Texas if you had low income or NO income you qualified (and still qualify) for the healthcare paid for by the county in which you live. Where I live its administered by JPS Health Network https://www.jpshealthnet.org/

I will give some credit to ACA - collective bargaining and the elimination of preexisting condition clauses for those who were self employed but could not buy insurance.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Im not claiming anything other than what you and everybody else already has and that is common sense. And sometimes you need to be reminded of it. Texas does not put up with nonsense.

We just say no.
What's this "we" kemosabi?
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Nonsense like keeping guys out of the girls bathroom? Uh huh.

Right. We want to make sure this gentleman who was born a woman uses the women's room so he and the women in the bathroom can all be uncomfortable.


But in exchange Felix gets to feel self-righteous so it's totally with it.
 
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leper84

Senior member
Dec 29, 2011
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Right. We want to make sure this gentleman who was born a woman uses the women's room so he and the women in the bathroom can all be uncomfortable.


But in exchange Felix gets to feel self-righteous so it's totally with it.

Lets use a tiny bit of common sense, what is the chance that person will be punished under this law? Exactly zero? The law isn't targeting people like that person.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Right. We want to make sure this gentleman who was born a woman uses the women's room so he and the women in the bathroom can all be uncomfortable.


But in exchange Felix gets to feel self-righteous so it's totally with it.

What you see in this picture is a falsehood made from massive levels of hormone therapy and very possibly lots of surgery. Regardless of what she wants to be called.
 
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Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Lets use a tiny bit of common sense, what is the chance that person will be punished under this law? Exactly zero? The law isn't targeting people like that person.


Let's use a tiny bit of sense here. Under Texas law, (if this law that targets the transgendered passes), will he violate the law every time he uses the men's room?
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Let's use a tiny bit of sense here. Under Texas law, (if this law that targets the transgendered passes), will he violate the law every time he uses the men's room?

And by looking at your example, if that person goes to the mens room, who will complain? Who would even know? But this is not really what is issue here and you know it. I could post a picture of person who claims to be one gender but by all appearances is clearly the other. And how this example identifies does not allow them to enter the opposite gender restroom.

But you knew that, so you bring up your example to try and argue otherwise.

That's what we mean by no ... "kemosabi".
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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Right. We want to make sure this gentleman who was born a woman uses the women's room so he and the women in the bathroom can all be uncomfortable.


But in exchange Felix gets to feel self-righteous so it's totally with it.
Bathrooms are the wrong battleground for this topic. Competitive sports, scholarships and other gender based entitlements are where this battle will be fought. The militant feminist and trangender communities have already crossed swords more than once.

As for your example, there is no way to identify this person, until he engages you in conversation and you wonder why a grown man sounds like a pubescent boy. Medical science can do many things but its not always a perfect swap.
 
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