Texas DA won't prosecute people caught in the Dateline Predator sting

josh0099

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I see their point, on not wanting to lure them in, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't prosecute the guys they already have. Just never do the show in their city again that simple...
 

rbV5

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Time to take a closer look at the DA perhaps?. He wouldn't be a friend of Louis Conradt Jr., the assistant prosecutor from neighboring Kauffman County implicated in the sting, would he?

I think its odd that the community went after the City Manager, and were more upset with the camera crews than the pervs....maybe they don't want the light shining in, 'specially from outsiders........only in Texas I guess.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: playstation3
texas condones not allowing the justice system to be used as an entertainment and ratings generator under the guise of stopping little boy sex.

Fixed it for you.
 

Ns1

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Linflas
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: playstation3
texas condones not allowing the justice system to be used as an entertainment and ratings generator under the guise of stopping little boy sex and prefers to let known pervs roam the streets</end quote></div>

Fixed it for you.</end quote></div>

fixed

F- THIS FUSETALK
 

Queasy

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Reading everything that happened in that article, I can certainly see why the prosecutor would have a hard time pursuing it. Many of these cases would be problematic at best with them not being in this DA's jurisdiction and NBC and the police unable to guarantee that chat logs were accurate and complete.
 

Alone

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Who cares if they use it for entertainment? They're catching pedophiles and the bottom line is that's what fucking matters.
 

Gooberlx2

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If Dateline can't prove their logs are complete, authentic and initiated by the perps...then there's going to be a lot of appeals in the near future, since it seemed they were going to the houses of people who didn't show up to the meeting as well....at least that's how I read it.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: Linflas
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: playstation3
Murphy Texas DA condones not allowing the justice system to be used to shine the light on public officials and good town folk that may have been implicated in little boy sex sting by meddling outsiders .</end quote></div>

Fixed it for you.

Fixed 'er fer ya

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
If Dateline can't prove their logs are complete, authentic and initiated by the perps...then there's going to be a lot of appeals in the near future, since it seemed they were going to the houses of people who didn't show up to the meeting as well....at least that's how I read it.

yeap.

i wouldnt be shocked to hear a lot of tehse cases (not just texas) get dropped.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Reading everything that happened in that article, I can certainly see why the prosecutor would have a hard time pursuing it. Many of these cases would be problematic at best with them not being in this DA's jurisdiction and NBC and the police unable to guarantee that chat logs were accurate and complete.

Yea sure, thats what we've heard from all the other DA's around the county involved in the Dateline cases.:roll:
 

Sqube

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So... it's alright to execute mentally challenged people, but we can't prosecute people who clearly came for the sole purpose of molesting underage boys and girls?

404: Understanding Not Found.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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I have to agree with the DA in this case. The whole issue closely parallels RIAA tactics. Would everyone here feel comfortable having people criminally prosecuted based ONLY on the RIAA's investigations?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: josh0099
I see their point, on not wanting to lure them in, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't prosecute the guys they already have. Just never do the show in their city again that simple...

The reason that the case was dropped was NOT because they were lured into the city, but because the DA found that there was not enough credible evidence to prosecute. In the DA's opinion, the chat logs could not be used either because it was a case of entrapment, etc.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: rbV5
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Queasy
Reading everything that happened in that article, I can certainly see why the prosecutor would have a hard time pursuing it. Many of these cases would be problematic at best with them not being in this DA's jurisdiction and NBC and the police unable to guarantee that chat logs were accurate and complete.</end quote></div>

Yea sure, thats what we've heard from all the other DA's around the county involved in the Dateline cases.:roll:

If a person chats online in another county and never enters this DA's county to meet up with underage boys/girls, how could he prosecute them? It would be the responsibility of the DA in the county that the accused person is from.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Queasy
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: rbV5
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Queasy
Reading everything that happened in that article, I can certainly see why the prosecutor would have a hard time pursuing it. Many of these cases would be problematic at best with them not being in this DA's jurisdiction and NBC and the police unable to guarantee that chat logs were accurate and complete.</end quote></div>

Yea sure, thats what we've heard from all the other DA's around the county involved in the Dateline cases.:roll:</end quote></div>

If a person chats online in another county and never enters this DA's county to meet up with underage boys/girls, how could he prosecute them? It would be the responsibility of the DA in the county that the accused person is from.

not to mention if they can't prove the chat logs from start to finish there is problems.



 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Linflas
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: playstation3
texas condones not allowing the justice system to be used as an entertainment and ratings generator under the guise of stopping little boy sex.</end quote></div>

Fixed it for you.


w3rd
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Sqube
So... it's alright to execute mentally challenged people, but we can't prosecute people who clearly came for the sole purpose of molesting underage boys and girls?

404: Understanding Not Found.

Apple meet orange. Hyperbole aside I'm sure any lawyer here will tell you that there are a lot of legal requirements that need to be followed for a successful police sting. It is very easy to argue this strictly from an emotional point of view but this is a country of laws and like it or not a person accused of any crime no matter how heinous still has Constitutional rights. I would rather see the police conduct these stings in a way that ensures that a prosecutor can try the case and put these people away for the full amount of time allowed by law.
 

yllus

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Have to agree as well. Investigation and conviction based on the evidence compiled by a television network following heaven knows what rules in doing so... Problematic at best to prosecute, and possibly wholly unjust as well.
 

Juice Box

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I really hate to play devil's advocate in this case, but I've always had a problem with this show. This is the closest to Minority Report's "Pre-Crime" unit that I have ever seen. These people have committed no crimes, and were being tried as if they had. While yes, the pedophile issue needs to be taken care of...I do not think that they should be stripped of their rights and arrested before a crime is committed. I know it sounds horrible, but I still think it's unfair.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Linflas
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Sqube
So... it's alright to execute mentally challenged people, but we can't prosecute people who clearly came for the sole purpose of molesting underage boys and girls?

404: Understanding Not Found.</end quote></div>

Apple meet orange. Hyperbole aside I'm sure any lawyer here will tell you that there are a lot of legal requirements that need to be followed for a successful police sting. It is very easy to argue this strictly from an emotional point of view but this is a country of laws and like it or not a person accused of any crime no matter how heinous still has Constitutional rights. I would rather see the police conduct these stings in a way that ensures that a prosecutor can try the case and put these people away for the full amount of time allowed by law.


exactly. its not a matter of what they came for. its what you can prove beyond a resonable doubt.

with missing proof on the chat logs and the pesky problem of jurisdiction its going to be hard.

while i hate it that they get to go free (well they were shown on TV hehe) i can't blame the DA.


just makes me wonder how many of them are going to sue over it?
 
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