Where the hell has the great Rick Perry been during all this? Doesn't states rights dictate he be in charge of this??
Rail against the federal government until you need them.
Also there is this fact of Mr Duncan lying about not being in contact with anyone with Ebola.
Still, with the way things are around here, I won't be too surprised if some jury decides to hand them free cash. Gotta love the legal system.
NYT piece on Duncan's time in Liberia just before he left indicated it was very likely he did not know he came in contact with any Ebola victims.
NYT piece on Duncan's time in Liberia just before he left indicated it was very likely he did not know he came in contact with any Ebola victims.
The WHO protocol that Dr.'s Without Borders follows is more stringent than what the CDC suggests. It's a problem.
As with everyone who hates "the rich", that title floats above their own net worth.Um, $1M???? Really???? You're gonna pay out the a** in capital gains. And don't you hate rich people? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
A major problem.The WHO protocol that Dr.'s Without Borders follows is more stringent than what the CDC suggests. It's a problem.
The fact that at least three people who were well aware of the danger of ebola, wearing protective gear in a modern hospital with all precautions and being careful still got infected tells you this stuff is not as hard to transmit from one person to another as the cdc and other talking heads would have us believe.
We need a few more people to get ebola before the liberals start to take it seriously
Fuck him, and his family. . His lying ass caused this. Hope he rots in hell.
He accompanied that woman to the hospital who had very very Ebola like systems. With Ebola raging all around over there, it is inconceivable he did not know. He lied.
Fuck him, and his family. . His lying ass caused this. Hope he rots in hell.
Yes they have been absolutely wrong every step of the way. Good christ I wonder if they are even doctors. I put in an order to sell ALL of my stock this morning (about a million dollars) after I heard about the 2nd nurse. A pandemic will take the market right back to 2008 levels or lower.
She was pregnant with stomach pains in an area that had no previous infections. They took her to the maternity ward.
Inconceivable and lying are strong words for that scenario.
Yes they have been absolutely wrong every step of the way. Good christ I wonder if they are even doctors. I put in an order to sell ALL of my stock this morning (about a million dollars) after I heard about the 2nd nurse. A pandemic will take the market right back to 2008 levels or lower.
Thats a totally untrue. I hate rich people, [...]
So you mention all these wonderful advantages the US has yet our health outcomes aren't any better. With that in mind, let's discuss efficiency some more?
You're assuming the 'inputs' that lead to those outcomes are the same. What makes you think the average US resident has the same general health, exercise habits and diet as a person from another country? Further, when people look at outcomes, they often fail to consider the time it takes before the outcome is achieved. Yes, the outcome might ultimately be the same, but I can get knee surgery within a couple of weeks, while a relative in Canada has waited more than 3 months to get his knee fixed. Ultimately we'll both have the same outcome from a medical perspective, but I much prefer a system where I'm not waiting that long.
Pros and cons to everything.
That's not really how health outcomes are measured.
For a ton of info on it I would suggest browsing through this: http://www.oecd.org/els/health-systems/49105858.pdf (section 5)
In some cases we do better than average, in some cases worse. That's all well and good until you realize to get these fairly generic results we're spending vastly more money each year.
Also, a lot of that doesn't explain our higher costs. For example, while it sounds like obese people should be more expensive to treat, it turns out they have lower lifetime health costs than healthy people because they tend to die young.
Oh, so you're wealthy?
We should take most of that money away from you, you rich scumbag.
CDC had them up on their website since August. I guess private sector needs to get its sheet together.
Family of Thomas Duncan is blaming the hospital....
Yea, fuck you too. Good luck finding a jury to give you money.
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/l...s-weeks-ebola-didnt-have-to-kill-my-uncle.ece
The CDC needs to get its "sheet together".
I recall the head of the CDC saying virtually every hospital in the US is capable of handling Ebola. No we find out that was completely wrong. IMO, you don't go on TV claiming something as fact if you haven't confirmed it to be so.
(Also, I doubt the CDC has the ability to force hospitals to follow its protocols. If they're not in charge, they shouldn't be publicly acting as if they are. They should stick to their bona fide purpose and perhaps just be supplying info instead of guarantees they cannot enforce.)
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I have no idea if that specific individual would have made it in or not, but I do know that plenty of other people would make it in and in those cases we would have no idea as to where they had come from, they would have further incentives to conceal their port of origin upon ending up here, and it would drive people underground once they arrived. All of those things would only make the problem worse.
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Dooh - So does that mean they are going to transfer the health care worker(s) that got infected?
A travel ban is idiotic because there are multiple modes of transportation. People take buses, trains, planes, etc. How do you propose stopping someone from flying to Canada or El Salvador and taking a bus here?
Fuck him, and his family. . His lying ass caused this. Hope he rots in hell.
At far as the NIH at least they don't have "plenty of money". I'm not a 180 million are gonna die! guy but research in this country is in bad shape and I have pretty good connections in many disciplines. This is once where I agree with many who say we're wasting money on better ways to kill that we don't need.