Texas Ebola patient dies

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xBiffx

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Question: Can you not diagnose someone with Ebola until they show symptoms? Can blood tests show anything?

They have to culture the blood, which takes days or extract RNA or proteins and process that, which again takes days.

If you just randomly tested someone not showing symptoms, then I guess these test could come back with results before symptoms show up. :hmm:

When I say days, I mean work days (as I'm used to), but in an emergency situation this would be likely done through around the clock lab work so it would be available in several hours then.
 
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Pneumothorax

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Sounds like a good candidate to be fast-tracked to a green card. She already speaks English and her blood is valuable.

Better warn her though, we have stupid people too.

Yup we need her genes and plasma. Plus she's not male so she won't be shooting out the ebola for 90 days or so. :awe:


Humanity is so stupid....
 
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bshole

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Yup we need her genes and plasma. Plus she's not male so she won't be shooting out the ebola for 90 days or so. :awe:

I don't get it. What is so funny about that? What is the significance of 90 days and the sex of the patient? Can somebody please explain this to me?
 

Strk

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I don't get it. What is so funny about that? What is the significance of 90 days and the sex of the patient? Can somebody please explain this to me?

It can be transmitted by sperm quite a while longer than anything else once a person is all better.
 

Slew Foot

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Lol, Obama's ebola czar has zero experience in dealingwith public health and disease, but is just another lifelong Democrat political advisor, f this president.
 

bshole

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Lol, Obama's ebola czar has zero experience in dealingwith public health and disease, but is just another lifelong Democrat political advisor, f this president.


Great, so Obama takes a serious step to address this crisis and you attack him for it?! You totally suck dude.
 

HomerJS

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Lol, Obama's ebola czar has zero experience in dealingwith public health and disease, but is just another lifelong Democrat political advisor, f this president.

Maybe if Republicans had gotten off their fat rich asses and passed a vote for the Surgeon General we'd already have one.
 

BoberFett

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Maybe if Republicans had gotten off their fat rich asses and passed a vote for the Surgeon General we'd already have one.

Maybe if Democrats hadn't tried to sneak in a Surgeon General attempting to make the 2nd Amendment argument a healthcare issue, the Republicans wouldn't have stonewalled.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Maybe if Democrats hadn't tried to sneak in a Surgeon General attempting to make the 2nd Amendment argument a healthcare issue, the Republicans wouldn't have stonewalled.

Oh, speaking of second amendment issues, do you remember the study Obama wanted to show how firearms are as dangerous to the public as he supposes? It didn't give the expected results and consequently those results have been virtually ignored. Oh the gun haters are going hate this. BUT BUT BUT IT'S GUNS AND AMMO Yep it is G&A, but I haven't found where they are wrong. Expect "Attack the source".
 

Jaskalas

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Great news from Senegal today!!! It is EBOLA free. This proves that people have been overreacting to this disease. It can be contained via very simple and straightforward measures. There is hope and I am confident we can overcome this problem.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/WHO-declares-Senegal-Ebola-free/articleshow/44859309.cms

Unless you're a Dallas Healthcare Worker.

Worked with Ebola recently?
Lets Fly around the country!
Lets Sail away on a cruise ship!
Containment? We don't need no 'stinking containment!
 

PokerGuy

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Great, so Obama takes a serious step to address this crisis and you attack him for it?! You totally suck dude.

Uh no, he didn't take a "serious step" to address anything, he rewarded one of his stupid political cronies with a nice cushy paying job -- one he is completely unqualified for with absolutely no healthcare experience -- to pretend to be doing something. More miserable fail.
 

PokerGuy

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Maybe if Republicans had gotten off their fat rich asses and passed a vote for the Surgeon General we'd already have one.

That wouldn't have been a problem if the idiot in chief didn't try to put an incompetent anti gun nutcase in that position. Just more obummer fail.
 

Dannar26

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That wouldn't have been a problem if the idiot in chief didn't try to put an incompetent anti gun nutcase in that position. Just more obummer fail.

Ebola?

Ban guns!

By that logic we can fix the economy with gay marriage...
 

Kadarin

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Uh no, he didn't take a "serious step" to address anything, he rewarded one of his stupid political cronies with a nice cushy paying job -- one he is completely unqualified for with absolutely no healthcare experience -- to pretend to be doing something. More miserable fail.

I'm going to hold off judgment until I see how effective this guy is at managing the situation.
 

squarecut1

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Uh no, he didn't take a "serious step" to address anything, he rewarded one of his stupid political cronies with a nice cushy paying job -- one he is completely unqualified for with absolutely no healthcare experience -- to pretend to be doing something. More miserable fail.
His wife got a top post in NOAA during Obama's first term. Same old incestuous affair of things in DC.
 

Jmman

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You can't even make this stuff up anymore.


"Do you have absolutely any medical credentials?"

"No sir, none whatsoever!"

"Great! You are the new Ebola Czar!"



In other news, an entire cruise ship is quarantined and nobody from the ship is allowed to enter the US....oops, I mean the third world countries of Belize or Mexico, due to the possible exposure of one person, one single person! No problems coming back to the good old USA though.

At least there are some countries out there that have a little common sense left. Why in the world are we allowing free travel from West Africa here to the US is almost impossible to even figure out. At the very least cancel all of their visas or passports so West African nationals can't come here. I know Obama sees himself as just a citizen of the world, but for heaven's sake, his job as the president is to protect the USA. If he wants to be some kind of international leader, resign the presidency and join the freakin' UN.......


"We remain in close contact with U.S. officials ... we have maintained the position that when even the smallest doubt remains, we will ensure the health and safety of the Belizean people," the government said in a statement.

Wow, a governmental entity that has a little common sense.
 
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HomerJS

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You can't even make this stuff up anymore.


"Do you have absolutely any medical credentials?"

"No sir, none whatsoever!"

"Great! You are the new Ebola Czar!"



In other news, an entire cruise ship is quarantined and nobody from the ship is allowed to enter the US....oops, I mean the third world countries of Belize or Mexico, due to the possible exposure of one person, one single person! No problems coming back to the good old USA though.

At least there are some countries out there that have a little common sense left. Why in the world are we allowing free travel from West Africa here to the US is almost impossible to even figure out. At the very least cancel all of their visas or passports so West African nationals can't come here. I know Obama sees himself as just a citizen of the world, but for heaven's sake, his job as the president is to protect the USA. If he wants to be some kind of international leader, resign the presidency and join the freakin' UN.......


"We remain in close contact with U.S. officials ... we have maintained the position that when even the smallest doubt remains, we will ensure the health and safety of the Belizean people," the government said in a statement.

Wow, a governmental entity that has a little common sense.

Here are two..

If you impose a travel ban someone with Ebola would just go to a neighboring country before heading to the US. We wouldn't be able to track them and people they come in contact with.

The US enacts a ban. Europe would be forced to follow suit since the US is considered a work leader in air travel. Soon other countries join in and would have serious worldwide economic impact.

Its only 3 people. A little too soon for panic. I would be far more concerned for nurses not having the proper equipment to treat the known cases. That Texas hospital still doesn't have the correct suits this far into it.
 

werepossum

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Great, so Obama takes a serious step to address this crisis and you attack him for it?! You totally suck dude.
How is this "a serious step to address this crisis"? He appointed a political hack with zero background in public health or medicine. This isn't a serious step to address this crisis, it's a serious attempt to politically benefit from this crisis.

Note that I'm using "crisis" only because you did; personally I don't consider it to be a crisis yet, and if we can pull our collective head out of our collective ass it won't become one. Obama appointing his bery own Brownie does not further that goal.

Maybe if Republicans had gotten off their fat rich asses and passed a vote for the Surgeon General we'd already have one.
Reid went nuclear - Obama needs zero Republican votes to seat his anti-gun nut.

Ebola?

Ban guns!

By that logic we can fix the economy with gay marriage...
lol

Well, considering that gay marriage is poised to soon be legal in all states let's hope we can.
 

Knowing

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Can someone direct me to any writeup anywhere that's pro Ron Klain's appointment as "ebola czar?" I don't care how biased it is, as long as it's coherent.

I've tried NYT, WaPo, DailyKos, and other. DU says the appointment is "a joke" when they're not complaining about how the NRA did ebola and blaming Reid(!) for the lack of a Surgeon General.
 
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