ah, glad to see it's a universal thing with you, being unable to comprehend text, and not just my posts. Here is what he said, which is entirely my point:
Now, the one thing that the 3 of us probably agree on, is that it is quite a bit off topic for this thread; but I'm getting confused with the other capital punishment, guns, and abortion thread. all thoughts running together. So, apologies.
It simply struck me, that, different sides will define something as murder, or not, for certain reasons, it seems. I consider capital punishment murder, and abortion not murder. There, my definition is simply based on what constitutes life, or what can be murdered (only a person can be murdered).
Your definition seems to be based on legality. Rather, if the state sanctions it, it can not be murder. I realize, then that many who share your view would otherwise consider abortion to be murder, which is clearly sanctioned by the state. I find that to be an odd distinction.
OH, let me add: I'm not saying that "the unlawful premeditated killing of someone" is not the definition of murder. I think that is fine. It certainly is at odds with my feeling that capital punishment is murder, even though it is, technically, lawful. But, wrg to using that same definition of murder for abortion, that is precisely the point, isn't it?