Texas mayor says government and utility services owe residents ‘nothing’ as tens of thousands left without power and water

Fenixgoon

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I hope they like all that freedom from government. I do feel sorry for them though as this is exactly what government is supposed to help with.
 
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dawp

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UNCjigga

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I’m sad that he resigned. It’s a rare thing when you find an elected Republican who’s willing to tell the truth about what he thinks of his fellow citizens. That “unhinged rant” is what people who vote Republican are voting for.

Exhibit B: 74 million people voted for a President who didn’t do a damn thing to show the spread of Covid. “The strong will survive and the weak will perish” is a slightly more eloquent way of stating “Fuck you, got mine!”
 

WelshBloke

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According to him his job isn't to help his constituents in a crisis.
So what is he actually getting paid by his constituents for? Sounds like he's the exact type of person, leeching off the taxpayer and providing no service in return, that he's complaining about!
 

IronWing

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According to him his job isn't to help his constituents in a crisis.
So what is he actually getting paid by his constituents for? Sounds like he's the exact type of person, leeching off the taxpayer and providing no service in return, that he's complaining about!
Texas local government today is what you might expect of British local government circa 1800. The function is to maintain the social order, keep the rich rich and the poor down.
 

Jaskalas

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i also saw the texas gop and national gop blaming frozen wind turbines for the blackouts..i always wonder how dumb people can be and they keep exceeding my expectations..

Fox News has been blaming Democrats and the Green Agenda for Texas 24/7 all week.
If you were listening to Republican Propaganda, you would think Texas was some communist hellhole, that AOC is to blame, and she wants to take away your electricity and hurt you and your family.
 
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woolfe9998

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This is the GOP philosophy laid bare, without qualification, without any attempt to sugar coat it. If anything, this guy should get an award for being honest about being a sociopath.

Then again, he said this in conjunction with his resignation:

"Please understand, if I had it to do over again, I would have just kept my words to myself and if I did say them I would have used better wording and been more descriptive," said Boyd.

He meant everything he said. He should have just done a better job of seeming like less of an asshole.
 

Greenman

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i also saw the texas gop and national gop blaming frozen wind turbines for the blackouts..i always wonder how dumb people can be and they keep exceeding my expectations..
I've seen that reported in several places. Not that the windmills freezing were the cause of the blackouts, but that they have frozen and the reduced output contributed to the blackouts. It didn't seem like an unreasonable conclusion.
 

herm0016

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I've seen that reported in several places. Not that the windmills freezing were the cause of the blackouts, but that they have frozen and the reduced output contributed to the blackouts. It didn't seem like an unreasonable conclusion.

its not. its a contributing factor. so is low pressure in NG pipelines because of the widespread cold across the west and mid-west. even in CO we are seeing lower pressures and utilities are asking for conservation. some generating capacity is also offline for maintenance and upgrades, which they do this time of year to have full capacity during the summer, their normal peak. its also an issue of peoples preparedness. I have a friend down there that waits till his propane tank is at 10% to get it filled. if you know anything about propane, you know that when the tank is low and its cold, you cant produce enough vapor to run you systems, the bottom 10 or 15 % is nearly useless as is the top 10 or 15%. not enough surface area of the liquid for evaporation to occur at a high enough rate to produce the gas you need. then you plug in all the electric heaters you have. a bunch do this is overload the grid.

lots of contributing factors to this. Anyone with any failures experience knows that a major problem is almost never from one or even a few single causes.
 
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jim barclay

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I've seen that reported in several places. Not that the windmills freezing were the cause of the blackouts, but that they have frozen and the reduced output contributed to the blackouts. It didn't seem like an unreasonable conclusion.
It's obviously a complicated issue with many factors but the gop spin is over-reliance on green power is the culprit.
 

WelshBloke

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I've seen that reported in several places. Not that the windmills freezing were the cause of the blackouts, but that they have frozen and the reduced output contributed to the blackouts. It didn't seem like an unreasonable conclusion.
Tbh the wind turbines seem to be handling things better than everything else!
 

brycejones

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I've seen that reported in several places. Not that the windmills freezing were the cause of the blackouts, but that they have frozen and the reduced output contributed to the blackouts. It didn't seem like an unreasonable conclusion.
Actually the real problem is Texas power providers of all types didn't invest in protecting their infrastructure from cold weather. Wind generation still provided a greater than typically expected share of output while gas, nuclear, and coal all had issues with water for cooling freezing shutting down the plants.
 

MrSquished

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Wind turbines can work fine in the cold. Just ask Scandinavian countries, Canada, Alaska, North sea wind farms. These things can be winterized. But like everything else in Texas they weren't due to no regulation. The bigger problem is non renewable energy being taken off line in Texas due to the same non winterizing policy, especially natural gas.

The issue in Texas has nothing to do with Green energy or fossil fuel energy specifically - it's their overall energy policy in regards to preparedness.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Wind turbines can work fine in the cold. Just ask Scandinavian countries, Canada, Alaska, North sea wind farms. These things can be winterized. But like everything else in Texas they weren't due to no regulation. The bigger problem is non renewable energy being taken off line in Texas due to the same non winterizing policy, especially natural gas.

The issue in Texas has nothing to do with Green energy or fossil fuel energy specifically - it's their overall energy policy in regards to preparedness.
See now you're using logic and reason. That's kind of a fundamental problem for certain segments of the population...
 

HomerJS

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I've seen that reported in several places. Not that the windmills freezing were the cause of the blackouts, but that they have frozen and the reduced output contributed to the blackouts. It didn't seem like an unreasonable conclusion.
You know very well Fox is framing this so their idiots will blame the wind turbines. Q level misinformation. Wind currently provides 25% of Texas's power. The fact they are freezing just means they are not helping No causal effect.

The fact they went off the grid is the real culprit. Think Fox News and the other conspiracy outlets will tell their people the truth????

We want our freedumbs...we want our freedumbs. Well now you are free to freeze your dumb asses off.
 

brycejones

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herm0016

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Wind turbines can work fine in the cold. Just ask Scandinavian countries, Canada, Alaska, North sea wind farms. These things can be winterized. But like everything else in Texas they weren't due to no regulation. The bigger problem is non renewable energy being taken off line in Texas due to the same non winterizing policy, especially natural gas.

The issue in Texas has nothing to do with Green energy or fossil fuel energy specifically - it's their overall energy policy in regards to preparedness.

wind turbines designed to work in the cold work in the cold. not all of them. it's a rare enough event in TX that they do not have blade heaters or any of the other things that are required for them to prevent ice buildup. you cant just add these things seasonally. the nacelles we built had totally different ventilation systems, weather proofing, and internal electrical systems between the cold climate and warm climate versions.

"due to no regulation!!!!" the government can't regulate everything, and government regulation will not save everyone from everything bad that happens.
 
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hal2kilo

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wind turbines designed to work in the cold work in the cold. not all of them. it's a rare enough event in TX that they do not have blade heaters or any of the other things that are required for them to prevent ice buildup. you cant just add these things seasonally. the nacelles we built had totally different ventilation systems, weather proofing, and internal electrical systems between the cold climate and warm climate versions.
Still selling the seed corn to save pennies. Why can't we have more efficiency in government like Texas.
 
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