Texas Passes Merry Christmas Bill To Fight War On Christmas

Page 8 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
11,856
8,469
136
I used to say "happy holidays" because it was shorter than saying "merry xmas and happy new year". Now, I'll take extra pleasure in doing it knowing that I'm pissing off irrational mental midgets like the OP.
 

runzwithsizorz

Diamond Member
Jan 24, 2002
3,500
14
76
I'm a supporter of "who gives a shit" either way. I say Merry Christmas. I am not offended by someone who says Happy Hanukkah, Happy Holidays, or nothing at all. You should not be offended by someone wishing you a good time, even if it's related to a holiday you may not celebrate.

"I just wish people had balls not to cave in to pressure from a tiny, vocal minority. I've heard of companies and school districts that don't allow their employees to say the holiday greeting of their choosing. This is pretty asinine, especially when it's almost universally only applied to Christmas, which is celebrated by 95% of America, including 80% of non-Christians.
Seriously This. Something I believe the late Andy Rooney wrote;
I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with Darwin , but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution. Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered in any way because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire Book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans
going home from the game. But it's a Christian prayer, some will argue.
Yes, and this is the United States of America , and Canada , countries founded on Christian principles. According to our very own phone book,
Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1.
So what would you expect --Somebody chanting Hare Krishna?
If I went to a football game in Jerusalem , I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer. If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer. If I went to a ping pong match in China , I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha. And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome ....
But what about the atheists? Is another argument. What about them?
Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer! Or, just exercise their right to leave
this country! Unfortunately, one or two will call their lawyer.
One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations.
Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are
telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends
you, well, just sue me.
The silent majority has been silent too long. It's time we tell that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard that the vast majority doesn't
care what they want! It is time that the majority rules! It's time we tell them, "You don't have to pray; you don't have to say the Pledge of Allegiance; you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right; But by golly,
You are no longer going to take our rights away.
We are fighting back, and we WILL WIN!"
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
41,599
19
81
I'm a supporter of "who gives a shit" either way. I say Merry Christmas. I am not offended by someone who says Happy Hanukkah, Happy Holidays, or nothing at all. You should not be offended by someone wishing you a good time, even if it's related to a holiday you may not celebrate.

I just wish people had balls not to cave in to pressure from a tiny, vocal minority. I've heard of companies and school districts that don't allow their employees to say the holiday greeting of their choosing. This is pretty asinine, especially when it's almost universally only applied to Christmas, which is celebrated by 95% of America, including 80% of non-Christians.
Just so long as it's not into "tyranny of the majority" territory.

For example, the Andy Rooney bit above, where he's talking about it being alright to inject prayer into various public events. It still just has the subtle overtone of "If you're not a part of this, you're not one of us. You don't belong here."
Don't bow your head during a prayer? If anyone else is peeking around, they might notice that, and chastise you for doing something "wrong." (And you'd best not mention anything about being an atheist either. That's a quick way to lose friends, family, and possibly employment, should word of it spread.)

Let's also pursue the idea of the majority always being correct. Let's say that Christianity were to lose its majority position, only by a thin margin, but still enough to be able to firmly say that it was true. Would they all then, Rooney included, quietly stop asking for this time for prayers, and for their holidays to be honored exclusively? Would it "not bother him one bit" to yield dominance to the religion-of-the-year, whatever it may be? I doubt you'd see anything close to a peaceful transition.


"Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying."
And some other people's religions say that Christians are praying to the wrong deity; their religions may also say that they are themselves meant to pray under certain restrictions which contradict the Christian methods.
Then you've got the simple fact that many Christians already willingly give up so many of the teachings in the Bible, depending on which testament they're in, and on how much of an impediment they present to how they'd like to live their lives. Maybe they could then also handle, "Silent prayers are ok, and are to be done on your own time." And I would certainly hope that an all-knowing all-present deity would be capable of discerning a silent, thought prayer just as effectively as a spoken one.
 
Last edited:

zsdersw

Lifer
Oct 29, 2003
10,560
2
0
Because happy holidays makes no sense and they only do this to Christians. Why don't we wish Muslims happy holidays? Or Jews Happy holidays because it's stupid and makes no sense.

The people who do this are anti-Christian and politically correct morons.

No more than the people who complain about it.

I have actually had some idiots who wished me a "happy holidays" and I had to correct them and make them realize how stupid and wrong they were.

If you did that to me in person I'd tell you to fuck off. People are not under any obligation to give you a greeting or well-wishes at all, let alone with the specific wording you want.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
26,720
25,065
136
If you did that to me in person I'd tell you to fuck off. People are not under any obligation to give you a greeting or well-wishes at all, let alone with the specific wording you want.

+1 The arrogance of the OP is just astounding. How anyone can be as self centered as the OP is beyond me.
 

SheHateMe

Diamond Member
Jul 21, 2012
7,251
20
81
I think Incorruptible thinks everyone around him is an idiot. Which is why he spends a lot of time on this website making threads becuase nobody will invite him out IRL.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
So then why do they say happy holidays?

There is no pandering to Christianity, Christianity has actually been under attack for a long time. If you pay attention during Christmas you will see them trying to undermine Christmas and attack it in various ways.

Those people who say happy holidays are complete idiots.

The people that say happy holidays are actually including other religions and cultures into their greetings while not excluding Christians. Saying that is "idiotic" just shows how completely biased and useless your opinion on the subject is.

And your very post calls people idiots for NOT pandering to your religion. Are you really that dumb?

As far as "undermine Christmas", you Christians have done one hellofa job at that already. No outside help is needed at all as even the majority of Christians don't actually celibate Christmas (as in the fake birthday of Christ) they just love the commercialized part of it which again has nothing to do with religion.

Since you Christians keep allowing when the new commercialized xmas starts to continually get earlier in the year, all me to be the first person to wish you Happy Holidays this season.

PS: Didn't you state earlier in the thread that we DO pander to other religions? If so, how do you base this entire argument on the fact that we don't?
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
Because happy holidays makes no sense and they only do this to Christians. Why don't we wish Muslims happy holidays?

When was the last time you wished a Muslim a happy anything?

Edit: And I have explained why it makes absolutely perfect sense at least once in this thread and probably twice. Do I need to use smaller words or are you just going to continue pretending that there are no other holidays whatsoever around the Winter Solstice?

Or Jews Happy holidays because it's stupid and makes no sense.

Same question

The people who do this are anti-Christian and politically correct morons.

Ahh, so the people that don't believe in your ridiculous fairy tale are morons? One of these days we are going to have to have a fun exercise on the physics of the flood story.

I have actually had some idiots who wished me a "happy holidays" and I had to correct them and make them realize how stupid and wrong they were.

Oh how I wish you would try that with me, I would have so much fun with you.

At any rate, here is a question for you. Take a Jew, they don't believe in Christmas at all because they don't believe that the son of god has been born yet. Why should they wish you a "Merry Christmas" when they don't believe in it? Better yet at damn near the exact same time they have their own religious holiday, so to include you they say "happy holidays" instead of "happy Hanukkah". Would you prefer them just say Happy Hanukkah and fuck Christmas because that shit is bogus? Why don't YOU say happy hanukkah? Why are you being an anti-jew bigot who has declared war on Hanukkah?

Beyond the normal ridiculousness of your fairy tales we can prove that there is no way jesus could have been born anytime around Dec 25th and that you bastards only started using that date because it was a well established pagan holiday. You gotta love the irony that you are crying and bitching that people aren't properly helping you celebrate a pagan holiday complete with all the pagan symbols. I am really looking forward to your thread this holiday season just to see what new battles we win in this "war".
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
Christmas is celebrated by more people and more important than those holidays. How many people actually celebrate those days?

We don't say happy holidays to Muslims celebrating Ramadan so why is it alright to do it to Christians?

Wait, its more important than those holidays? Why is that? (please save the "because more people celebrate it" bullshit, not only is that false but its irrelevant)

And frankly I have never wished a Muslim happy Ramadan, happy holidays or anything that I am aware of. Hell, I don't even know when Ramadan is. Is Ramadan around the Winter Solstice? If so its included in Happy Holidays, if not fuck em. I don't wish ANY other religion a "happy (insert title of their religious holiday)" and neither do 90% of Americans. Furthermore, does Ramadan fall during a time that there are half a dozen other major holidays (honest question, again don't know and other than for the sake of the above question I don't really care)?
 

xj0hnx

Diamond Member
Dec 18, 2007
9,262
3
76
Christmas is celebrated by more people and more important than those holidays. How many people actually celebrate those days?

We don't say happy holidays to Muslims celebrating Ramadan so why is it alright to do it to Christians?

Sorry Bosco, but the supposed birth of your make believe goat herder is not important to anyone but Christians, and retailers.
 

DCal430

Diamond Member
Feb 12, 2011
6,020
9
81
Still looking for any evidence of a school or teacher being sued and paying damages for calling a tree a Christmas tree.

Actually any evidence for this so called "War on Christmas" would be nice.
 

khon

Golden Member
Jun 8, 2010
1,319
124
106
To me the most amusing part of this whole spectacle is that christmass isn't even based on christianity.

There's no santa or christmass tree in the bible, and if you read it carefully you'll find that Jesus wasn't actually born during the winter.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
To me the most amusing part of this whole spectacle is that christmass isn't even based on christianity.

There's no santa or christmass tree in the bible, and if you read it carefully you'll find that Jesus wasn't actually born during the winter.

Even better than that the bible gives rather specific astronomical details. Most of what I have read puts the birth of jesus, per the astronomical data, in the spring (I think april or may).

The rest of the stuff you are talking about, including the day that Christmas is celebrated, the tree, wreaths, garland, etc... were all taken from pagans. It is celebrated on the Winter Solstice, a long held pagan holiday.The only reason his birth is celebrated on the 25th of December was to include pagans and their traditions in an attempt to get them to convert.

"The use of evergreen trees, wreaths, and garlands to symbolize eternal life was a custom of the ancient Egyptians, Chinese, and Hebrews. Tree worship was common among the pagan Europeans and survived their conversion to Christianity in the Scandinavian customs of decorating the house and barn with evergreens at the New Year to scare away the devil and of setting up a tree for the birds during Christmastime."
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
Still looking for any evidence of a school or teacher being sued and paying damages for calling a tree a Christmas tree.

Actually any evidence for this so called "War on Christmas" would be nice.

Didn't you see the news last year?!?!?! Private companies used the term "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas"!!! There most definitely is a war going on and so far Christmas is getting its ass kicked!

Lol, sounds pretty goddammed absurd considering the fact that Christmas has all but swallowed freaking thanksgiving recently doesn't it? Hell I half expect to see Xmas shit in stores by August this year.
 
Feb 16, 2005
14,035
5,338
136
Didn't you see the news last year?!?!?! Private companies used the term "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas"!!! There most definitely is a war going on and so far Christmas is getting its ass kicked!

Lol, sounds pretty goddammed absurd considering the fact that Christmas has all but swallowed freaking thanksgiving recently doesn't it? Hell I half expect to see Xmas shit in stores by August this year.

I know I saw some christmas shit in stores right after halloween. It's bled over past thanksgiving and edging closer to labor day every year.

I'll just leave this here for Inaneness:
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |