Texas should BAN palm trees

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zanejohnson

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lol, hmm, maybe estrella wanted a pony as a kid but never got one.

lol maybe...

man i hope i'm not doing my kids wrong, my two daughters both have a pony (multiple really) but one i'v designated each's, they have a steady place to live (albeit with there mother, who i am not with anymore) but they have there, or here (which involves a house in the country club, a house in the country, horses, ATV's, social class (which they will have regardless) i dunno, i hope i am able to teach them the reality of the world, and not just the things i have provided.. but looking at both... neither one of them is selfish, both are open to provide for the well being of there surroundings.. i can only hope this never changes.
 

CPA

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I hate all the people who have palm trees ANYWHERE in Texas. I hope all Texas palm trees freeze every winter.

Plant an oak tree or magnolia tree, if you live in Houston, asshole.


I have two oaks and a magnolia. Oh, and I also have two queen palms. And I live in Houston. So suck it.
 

CPA

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In Texas(and I suspect in other states), palm trees: look like crap, freeze, take shit tons of water to grow properly, don't provide shade, and they don't have coconuts. They are the most useless thing to grow in Texas.


Disagree. Pine trees are the most useless thing to grow in Texas. They're cheap, provide little shade, get crappy sap all over your fingers if you touch them, needs fall everywhere and, worst of all, they attract huge roaches.
 

Estrella

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Disagree. Pine trees are the most useless thing to grow in Texas. They're cheap, provide little shade, get crappy sap all over your fingers if you touch them, needs fall everywhere and, worst of all, they attract huge roaches.

Except many of the pine trees you see in Texas are native. While pine trees are generally shitty things, unless you are in a place where mountains are involved, the are much more bearable that palms.
 

SZLiao214

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I live in houston and have 2 palms. One in the front and one in the back.

Meyerland Plaza has plenty!
 

Estrella

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As much as I hate them, I am not for the destruction of them. I just wish people wouldn't plant anymore of them. However, if they freeze, this makes me happy. I am up for the removal of non-native palm species or other non-native species on public lands. The effort they are making along Buffalo Bayou pleases me.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the Chinese Tallow problem. Those things are taking over in the Houston area.
 

surfsatwerk

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As much as I hate them, I am not for the destruction of them. I just wish people wouldn't plant anymore of them. However, if they freeze, this makes me happy. I am up for the removal of non-native palm species or other non-native species on public lands. The effort they are making along Buffalo Bayou pleases me.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the Chinese Tallow problem. Those things are taking over in the Houston area.

Racist.
 

Oil

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Disagree. Pine trees are the most useless thing to grow in Texas. They're cheap, provide little shade, get crappy sap all over your fingers if you touch them, needs fall everywhere and, worst of all, they attract huge roaches.

I concur with this statement. I would prefer it if the east Texas Piney Woods became the Palmy Woods
 

GuitarDaddy

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Palms are fine anywhere along the coast, don't understand the hate :\

Here in north Texas they have become quite the fad the last few years, I see them everywhere now when there used to be none. Now businesses and shopping malls are putting them up everywhere, they found out that as long as you plant mature trees here they will survive the infrequent and short lived freezes we have and actually thrive. Even this last frozen spell we had right before the super bowl when it stayed in the teens and twenties for 5 days and ice and snow everywhere didn't seem to bother them.

I think they have become so popular because they are basically maintainence free. So many of the native trees here like pine and oaks are a real pain in the ass, seems your constantly battling the leaves/acorns and pine needles. About the only native tree here that isn't a PITA is the live oak because it's an evergreen and the small acorns are edible and prized by many animals so cleanup isn't a problem.
 
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CPA

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As much as I hate them, I am not for the destruction of them. I just wish people wouldn't plant anymore of them. However, if they freeze, this makes me happy. I am up for the removal of non-native palm species or other non-native species on public lands. The effort they are making along Buffalo Bayou pleases me.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the Chinese Tallow problem. Those things are taking over in the Houston area.

You know what I plan on putting in next? Bamboo...
 

Estrella

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Palms are fine anywhere along the coast, don't understand the hate :\

Here in north Texas they have become quite the fad the last few years, I see them everywhere now when there used to be none. Now businesses and shopping malls are putting them up everywhere, they found out that as long as you plant mature trees here they will survive the infrequent and short lived freezes we have and actually thrive. Even this last frozen spell we had right before the super bowl when it stayed in the teens and twenties for 5 days and ice and snow everywhere didn't seem to bother them.

I think they have become so popular because they are basically maintainence free. So many of the native trees here like pine and oaks are a real pain in the ass, seems your constantly battling the leaves/acorns and pine needles. About the only native tree here that isn't a PITA is the live oak because it's an evergreen and the small acorns are edible and prized by many animals so cleanup isn't a problem.

I would say that at least they won't spread since, the immature trees cannot survive however, more and more people plant mature palms. So, they are spreading.

No wonder you say they are OK on the coast. You live in Dallas/Ft.Worth. Don't get me started on the area.

In my mind, people who like palm trees are the people that think the Katy Mills Mall looks great on the inside.
 

tonyp709

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You find me an asshole in Houston that grows either and I will give you a gold star.

They are fine in the Valley. I grew up with them(assuming Sabal Texana). They are supposed to grow there. I mean all these other stupid ass species, and the more expensive the species to procure the more that species annoy.


I know this is old but here I go,

If it wasn’t for the palms trees here in Houston, I would have never moved here. Houston is sub-tropical just like my northwest FL hometown Panama City, and I have to say that Houston has a larger variety of palms than PC. The palm population in PC is more densely populated, but due to Houston’s size, I would say that there are more palms here. Despite the opinions of others, I don’t think that the palms are out of place. I beg to differ with anyone that feels that palms should be restricted to terrains that consist of mountains and beaches. Tell that to Orlando, FL. Hopefully, we all know that FL does not have any mountains, and the closest beach to Orlando is about 45min to an hour away, just like Houston. But no one complains because of the perception of Orlando being in Florida. People like you will often talk about how palm trees should not be planted in Houston because they’re not native or in their natural habitat. However, you all fail to realize that with the exception of the Washingtonia’s (Cal and Mex fan palms) all of the palms in Cal are not native, and as tropical as south FL is, the majority of the palms and plants are not native there either. Florida has 12 native palms, and the only popular natives are the sabal palmetto and the Florida Royal. Hawaii is also guilty of having several species of imported palms planted on it’s islands. In fact, Hawaii only has 1 palm that is native to it’s islands, which is the Loulu palm. Every other palm in the aloha state including the coconut palms were widely planted. Therefore, if California, Hawaii, and Florida can import palms from around the world to emulate or enhance a tropical paradise; why can’t Texas? Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder, and I personally think that the palms here compliment the city making Houston beautiful. No, it’s nothing like Miami (neither is the majority of the state of Florida for that matter) or even Southern Cal, nor will it ever be like either of those places. Houston is it’s own and offers the best of both worlds, whether you’re a palm enthusiast like myself or if you prefer a traditional shade tree. Never the less, Palms are on the rise in H-Town whether some individuals like it or not. In time, palms will begin to grow wildly in Houston, like the Mex fans and Sabals already do. btw, I don't think much of Katy Mills, therefore, your mind is obviously flawed...
 
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IronWing

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I know this is old but here I go,

If it wasn’t for the palms trees here in Houston, I would have never moved here. Houston is sub-tropical just like my northwest FL hometown Panama City, and I have to say that Houston has a larger variety of palms than PC. The palm population in PC is more densely populated, but due to Houston’s size, I would say that there are more palms here. Despite the opinions of others, I don’t think that the palms are out of place. I beg to differ with anyone that feels that palms should be restricted to terrains that consist of mountains and beaches. Tell that to Orlando, FL. Hopefully, we all know that FL does not have any mountains, and the closest beach to Orlando is about 45min to an hour away, just like Houston. But no one complains because of the perception of Orlando being in Florida. People like you will often talk about how palm trees should not be planted in Houston because they’re not native or in their natural habitat. However, you all fail to realize that with the exception of the Washingtonia’s (Cal and Mex fan palms) all of the palms in Cal are not native, and as tropical as south FL is, the majority of the palms and plants are not native there either. Florida has 12 native palms, and the only popular natives are the sabal palmetto and the Florida Royal. Hawaii is also guilty of having several species of imported palms planted on it’s islands. In fact, Hawaii only has 1 palm that is native to it’s islands, which is the Loulu palm. Every other palm in the aloha state including the coconut palms were widely planted. Therefore, if California, Hawaii, and Florida can import palms from around the world to emulate or enhance a tropical paradise; why can’t Texas? Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder, and I personally think that the palms here compliment the city making Houston beautiful. No, it’s nothing like Miami (neither is the majority of the state of Florida for that matter) or even Southern Cal, nor will it ever be like either of those places. Houston is it’s own and offers the best of both worlds, whether you’re a palm enthusiast like myself or if you prefer a traditional shade tree. Never the less, Palms are on the rise in H-Town whether some individuals like it or not. In time, palms will begin to grow wildly in Houston, like the Mex fans and Sabals already do. btw, I don't think much of Katy Mills, therefore, your mind is obviously flawed...
Welcome to the forum!
 

bignateyk

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I live in Pennsylvania and I have palm trees in my backyard. Deal with it. :awe:

I have to wrap them in burlap and put Christmas lights on them to keep them from freezing from November through March though, but totally worth it to see the look on peoples faces when they see them.

edit: I also have bamboo and bananas.
 
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Jeeebus

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I remember this thread when it was originally posted. Since then, we've waged war and removed all the palm trees from our yard - not because we didn't like palms, but had to make way for the fruit trees.

mangoes > palms
 
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