Texas should BAN palm trees

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BoomerD

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In Texas(and I suspect in other states), palm trees: look like crap, freeze, take shit tons of water to grow properly, don't provide shade, and they don't have coconuts. They are the most useless thing to grow in Texas.

You're close. Texans are the most useless things to grow in Texas...

Palm trees are a close second.

BTW, when are y'alls gonna secede from the union?
 

Jeeebus

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What types of mangoes? Details man, details!

err, off the top of my head, we have a Glenn, Kent, Pickering, and Cogshall. We also have one 'sentimental' no-name mango tree that my wife's father grew from a seed and gave to us before he died. That one is still a few years away from making fruit, and no idea if it will be decent.

Other than that, we have 2x starfruit, 2x japanese plums, 2x mulberry trees, an avocado, a lychee, a clementine, a pink lemon, and well, that may be it.
 

cheezy321

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I know this is old but here I go,

If it wasn’t for the palms trees here in Houston, I would have never moved here. Houston is sub-tropical just like my northwest FL hometown Panama City, and I have to say that Houston has a larger variety of palms than PC. The palm population in PC is more densely populated, but due to Houston’s size, I would say that there are more palms here. Despite the opinions of others, I don’t think that the palms are out of place. I beg to differ with anyone that feels that palms should be restricted to terrains that consist of mountains and beaches. Tell that to Orlando, FL. Hopefully, we all know that FL does not have any mountains, and the closest beach to Orlando is about 45min to an hour away, just like Houston. But no one complains because of the perception of Orlando being in Florida. People like you will often talk about how palm trees should not be planted in Houston because they’re not native or in their natural habitat. However, you all fail to realize that with the exception of the Washingtonia’s (Cal and Mex fan palms) all of the palms in Cal are not native, and as tropical as south FL is, the majority of the palms and plants are not native there either. Florida has 12 native palms, and the only popular natives are the sabal palmetto and the Florida Royal. Hawaii is also guilty of having several species of imported palms planted on it’s islands. In fact, Hawaii only has 1 palm that is native to it’s islands, which is the Loulu palm. Every other palm in the aloha state including the coconut palms were widely planted. Therefore, if California, Hawaii, and Florida can import palms from around the world to emulate or enhance a tropical paradise; why can’t Texas? Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder, and I personally think that the palms here compliment the city making Houston beautiful. No, it’s nothing like Miami (neither is the majority of the state of Florida for that matter) or even Southern Cal, nor will it ever be like either of those places. Houston is it’s own and offers the best of both worlds, whether you’re a palm enthusiast like myself or if you prefer a traditional shade tree. Never the less, Palms are on the rise in H-Town whether some individuals like it or not. In time, palms will begin to grow wildly in Houston, like the Mex fans and Sabals already do. btw, I don't think much of Katy Mills, therefore, your mind is obviously flawed...

Are you giving out free palm trees?
 

IronWing

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eOther than that, we have 2x starfruit, 2x japanese plums, 2x mulberry trees, an avocado, a lychee, a clementine, a pink lemon, and well, that may be it.

Hmm, I may have to try a dwarf star fruit tree. The full sized ones would never make it in Arizona. Have you tried growing calamansi (calamondin)? The fruit is quite tasty.
 

McLovin

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So you decided to join a tech forum, bring up a 2 year old topic nobody gave a shit about then, and probably still don't give a flying fuck about now? Are you and zanejohnson smokin the same shit?




Is this the type of tree the OP was referring to?

 
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preslove

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err, off the top of my head, we have a Glenn, Kent, Pickering, and Cogshall. We also have one 'sentimental' no-name mango tree that my wife's father grew from a seed and gave to us before he died. That one is still a few years away from making fruit, and no idea if it will be decent.

Other than that, we have 2x starfruit, 2x japanese plums, 2x mulberry trees, an avocado, a lychee, a clementine, a pink lemon, and well, that may be it.

No lime trees???
 

Megatomic

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Nov 9, 2000
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...but I feel the same way about palm trees in Florida--especially northern and central Florida.
Palm trees exist in the wild all over central Florida, many are even native. Some varieties have been imported, but still...

Holy crap, just noticed how old this thread is. lol
 
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FeuerFrei

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In 2010 I spent a night in a Houston hotel. That night an ice storm struck. All around the parking lot were ice-stricken palm trees creaking in the wind.

Palm trees almost make sense in Houston, considering it only freezes once or twice a year.
 

UglyCasanova

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I agree with the OP (even years later). These trees look so out of place and tacky. The university around here built some new student apartments on the bayou and lined it with palm trees. It's ON THE BAYOU. Why not make th campus look nice and use native trees and integrate the project with the already existing beautiful setting. Why try to make it feel like you are on the beach instead of embracing the bayou?!
 

alkemyst

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Oaks are very high maintenance on most property. Palms easy. A hedge of Bouganvilla is a train wreck when it's 40' x 8' high.

Give me palms and low maintenance vegetation.
 

natto fire

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I agree with the OP (even years later). These trees look so out of place and tacky. The university around here built some new student apartments on the bayou and lined it with palm trees. It's ON THE BAYOU. Why not make th campus look nice and use native trees and integrate the project with the already existing beautiful setting. Why try to make it feel like you are on the beach instead of embracing the bayou?!

That is true, and a shame about the campus. Oak trees, especially live oaks, age more spectacularly than most palm species as well. They are more maintenance, but leaf composting is very common in many municipal areas, or can be mulched at first.
 

CPA

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I live in the Houston area.

I had 2 Queen Palms planted a few years ago. Two years later they died at the first slight frost.

Put a new Water Oak in my front yard last year and a Magnolia a couple years ago.

I learned my lesson Estrella.
 

piasabird

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palmagranite trees would grow well if you watered them.

When I was in El-Paso, TX it snowed one day and it all melted by about 10:00am. In the army they put rocks on top of the sand and the only way you could even grow grass was to water it every day or have a sprinkler system.

El-Paso is mostly desert.
 
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OutHouse

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Disagree. Pine trees are the most useless thing to grow in Texas. They're cheap, provide little shade, get crappy sap all over your fingers if you touch them, needs fall everywhere and, worst of all, they attract huge roaches.

dont forget kill your yard and you can never walk barefoot in your yard unless you like pain and bandaids.
 

OutHouse

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I live in the Houston area.

I had 2 Queen Palms planted a few years ago. Two years later they died at the first slight frost.

Put a new Water Oak in my front yard last year and a Magnolia a couple years ago.

I learned my lesson Estrella.

damn, disregard my PM

FYI, plant a avocado tree. my sister planted 2 about 3 years ago and gets a few avocados. she sends me pics just to tease me and piss me off.
 
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