TF2 - Engineer update

[JTsyo]

Not sure why there isn't a thread on this already. It comes out today (Thurs.).

Official page

There are also some hidden links in the picture and a comic.

Frontier Justice is a shotgun w/o random crits but you get 2 per you sentry kill and then a bonus when the sentry dies. Current thinking is that you'll only get the crits after the sentry dies.

The Wrangler lets you remote aim the sentry and gives it shields that block 66% damage. Downside is that the sentry doesn't auto track and there's a 3 sec downtime after use.

2 new pushmaps, one of them being a race like pipeline.

Achievements

Might also be a wrench/new sentry that could be moved.

Then there's all the drama with the golden wrenches and bans being handed out.

 

[narreth]

they spread out these updates so much that no one cares anymore

 

[Tristicus]

I really wish TF2 would have never introduced updates.

 

[Born2bwire]

Gotta love the comics.

 

[lupi]

finally some engie stuff, and wtf is that gold wrench thing.

 

[RiDE]

finally some engie stuff, and wtf is that gold wrench thing.

That golden wrench are getting people vac banned. lol

Some people on sourceop supposedly figured out the times the wrench would drop... so they got banned. So much for valve saying they were random drops. :hmm:

 

[EarthwormJim]

It does say revenge crits in the comic, so that makes sense that the crits are given after your sentry self destructs or is destroyed.

That seems rather crappy, it takes awhile to build up a sentry.

I wonder what's the range on sentries under direct control. Can I finally take out that heavy sniping my sentry in that perfect corner just out of range?

 

[Praxis1452]

Just read through a good 50 pages or so. In summary, Valve lied through their teeth about the drop mechanics.

There is a screenshot of an e-mail from what I assume is a valve employee saying that everytime you craft an item you have a chance of getting the wrench. Now, this is blatantly false as the drop times were predetermined and they had to meet certain constraints like 25 per day, being fair to timezones, and basically the 100th wrench coming in at the time they are ready to unveil the last update.

Drop times were leaked somehow and so up until the 67th wrench, it's likely that only the people who knew of the leaked times got them. The leaked times were known to the second.

Valve decided to vac ban 3 people. It seems that one of them wrote a script to craft items really quickly unrelated directly to the golden wrench. Something about the smelt metal blueprint being removed. He also knew of the leaked times as well.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

they spread out these updates so much that no one cares anymore

I thought the opposite. One reason I stopped playing is because of all of these stupid updates. Every time they release one the game is broken for weeks because half the team plays one damn class.

 

[chalmers]

I thought the opposite. One reason I stopped playing is because of all of these stupid updates. Every time they release one the game is broken for weeks because half the team plays one damn class.

Lots of good servers have class limit restrictions.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Lots of good servers have class limit restrictions.

It still ruins it.. I stop playing for a week or so after an update and anytime there's a free weekend.

 

[0roo0roo]

It still ruins it.. I stop playing for a week or so after an update and anytime there's a free weekend.

eh, some people whine after each update. its just how it is. don't make too much of it, people have favored classes, and a new updates novelty doesn't last long before they go back to their other classes.

 

[Sacraster]

team full of engineers will be fun as hell

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

No, not really. It's a very defensive class, and having both sides full of them means impenetrable defenses which no one is attacking anyway.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

eh, some people whine after each update. its just how it is. don't make too much of it, people have favored classes, and a new updates novelty doesn't last long before they go back to their other classes.

I know, it takes about a week before everyone has the new weapons or whatever and are bored... It's not horrible, but it's extremely annoying.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

No, not really. It's a very defensive class, and having both sides full of them means impenetrable defenses which no one is attacking anyway.

This happens when people are just randomly running around getting killed by sentries.. They key is TEAM fortress.. Even a turtled 2fort intel can be broken into with only a spy, soldier+medic, heavy+medic.. It takes some teamwork but I enjoy those sorta scenarios

 

[Born2bwire]

That golden wrench are getting people vac banned. lol

Some people on sourceop supposedly figured out the times the wrench would drop... so they got banned. So much for valve saying they were random drops. :hmm:

I think it's pretty naive to assume that it was random in time. They stated that they were rolling out the updates whenever the 25 milemark was hit so it's only logical that they would control the rate that they would be awarded to space out the updates. I would assume that the wrench is randomly assigned to whoever is crafting during the period of assignment. Hell, they could just a priori select 25 random times for each day. I can't believe people are actually whining about this.

Christ, I just don't get any of the damn drama that goes on with this game in the Steam forums.

 

[KeithTalent]

Good stuff, looking forward to trying it out. As I said before, all of the servers I regularly play on already have Engi limits (usually 3, sometimes 2 depending on the map) so I don't care much about everyone trying to pay the Engi.

So only 100 people are getting the golden wrench? :hmm:

KT

 

[mb]

Hmm what are the odds that I know 4 of the people that won a golden wrench?

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

This happens when people are just randomly running around getting killed by sentries.. They key is TEAM fortress.. Even a turtled 2fort intel can be broken into with only a spy, soldier+medic, heavy+medic.. It takes some teamwork but I enjoy those sorta scenarios

The problem is threefold here. First, since near everybody is playing engie, combos of other classes are going to be hard to put together.

Secondly, numbers - a heavy/demo combo can (or rather, could) take out 1, maybe 2 sentries with an uber. Against 6 though? Knockback alone is going to make that hard. Even before they gave the engie a weapon that boosts firing rate of sentries (and thus, knockback).

Thirdly, that weapon that increases firing rate? It also reduces damage to his sentry by 66%. Which means even devoted demos would be hard-pressed to take out more then 1 in an uber.

 

[Jschmuck2]

The Steam forums are going *nuts* - it's fantastic. The golden wrench doesn't even...like...do anything. Nor is it a tangible object.

 

[Homerboy]

THIS is what I have been waiting for.
Awesome.

LOL at the achievement: "If You Build It, They Will Die"
SOmany good names for these (and all the other) acheivements.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

thanks for the heads up. might be time to reinstall tf2

 

[Liet]

Yep, it's absolute pandemonium over there. Who knew people would get worked up over this?

I'd love one, but I couldn't muster the energy to write a rant about it online if I couldn't get one. They've got too much time on their hands!

 

[Mursilis]

Yep, it's absolute pandemonium over there. Who knew people would get worked up over this?

I'd love one, but I couldn't muster the energy to write a rant about it online if I couldn't get one. They've got too much time on their hands!

You should pop in over there and tell the nutjobs that if they're serious about expressing thier disdain for the update, they'll follow the example of buddhist monks during the Vietnam War and set themselves on fire in front of Valve headquarters. TF2 - it's worth dying for!!