TF2 - Engineer update

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RiDE

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I think it's pretty naive to assume that it was random in time. They stated that they were rolling out the updates whenever the 25 milemark was hit so it's only logical that they would control the rate that they would be awarded to space out the updates. I would assume that the wrench is randomly assigned to whoever is crafting during the period of assignment. Hell, they could just a priori select 25 random times for each day. I can't believe people are actually whining about this.

Christ, I just don't get any of the damn drama that goes on with this game in the Steam forums.

Well I didn't craft my entire backpack in the hopes of getting a GW. Personally I would much rather have a hat but it seems the people crying on steam forums did in fact craft everything they had in one go... LOL.
 

KeithTalent

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Well I didn't craft my entire backpack in the hopes of getting a GW. Personally I would much rather have a hat but it seems the people crying on steam forums did in fact craft everything they had in one go... LOL.

Haha, idiots.

I craft for hats as well. So satisfying when I finally get enough stuff to make one. :awe:

KT
 

Praxis1452

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Well I didn't craft my entire backpack in the hopes of getting a GW. Personally I would much rather have a hat but it seems the people crying on steam forums did in fact craft everything they had in one go... LOL.

That's exactly what I did . To be honest, after reading the e-mail I just assumed I might as well see if I can get it or not.

They might have first used that system, but I think after everybody started crafting right away, a ton of wrenches got out, and valve didn't really want that.
 

0roo0roo

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The problem is threefold here. First, since near everybody is playing engie, combos of other classes are going to be hard to put together.

Secondly, numbers - a heavy/demo combo can (or rather, could) take out 1, maybe 2 sentries with an uber. Against 6 though? Knockback alone is going to make that hard. Even before they gave the engie a weapon that boosts firing rate of sentries (and thus, knockback).

Thirdly, that weapon that increases firing rate? It also reduces damage to his sentry by 66%. Which means even devoted demos would be hard-pressed to take out more then 1 in an uber.

the servesr i've played this isn't true. a team filled with engies is going to get its ass beat consistently enough that the message will get through soon enough.
 

JTsyo

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Can someone summarize what the golden wrench is and why people are mad about it?

Just read through a good 50 pages or so. In summary, Valve lied through their teeth about the drop mechanics.

There is a screenshot of an e-mail from what I assume is a valve employee saying that everytime you craft an item you have a chance of getting the wrench. Now, this is blatantly false as the drop times were predetermined and they had to meet certain constraints like 25 per day, being fair to timezones, and basically the 100th wrench coming in at the time they are ready to unveil the last update.

Drop times were leaked somehow and so up until the 67th wrench, it's likely that only the people who knew of the leaked times got them. The leaked times were known to the second.

Valve decided to vac ban 3 people. It seems that one of them wrote a script to craft items really quickly unrelated directly to the golden wrench. Something about the smelt metal blueprint being removed. He also knew of the leaked times as well.

The wrench doesn't do anything special but there's only 100 of them so people want it.
 

0roo0roo

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well yea its a pain though when its that rare. i have a gripe with hats as well. no trading means you pretty much never get what you want. and i cant be bothered to play long enough to get anything decent.

plus i cleaned up my briefcase of items by smelting sh*t right before the announcment..bad timing
 

JTsyo

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seems all buildings can be moved and the wrench gets replaced with the gunslinger. Which places level 1 sentries that can be healed or upgraded but builds faster.
 

coldmeat

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I'm not really sure how I feel about the actual engineer update but I'm really happy to see some new payload maps.

Being able to pick up and move teleporter exits on payload and capture point maps will save a lot of time.
 

mb

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BEST. UPDATE. EVER!

I am in LOVE with the new Thunder Mountain map!

Also I am racking up sooooooooo many kills as a soldier right now!
 

lupi

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stayed up way to late tonight playing a bit on the engie. much funner now than in the past (of course I stopped just before 2nd update since the eng was going to be near the end of the updates so not sure if some of the changes were done before or all now).
 

Zenoth

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I'll wait until the dust falls before playing again, right now almost everyone wants to be an Engineer, or are Engineers in servers without class limitations, so either you have class limitations but players cry to let you or another Engineer be an Engineer or you have servers with hordes of Engineers on both sides (8+ easily). So I'll wait a bit until the mass fuss calms down just like I did when the Pyro and the Spy got their updates.

But the update in itself seems alright I guess, I've yet to try it since I don't have any of the new Engineer items, and I usually find around one or two items per week even if I play three hours or so everyday.
 

Rezident

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Sounds nuts but I must check out a server with 8+ engies on each side. I've seen some shit in tf2 but never seen anything like that before. Actually too many engies usually ruins attack/defend maps
 

KeithTalent

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http://www.tf2.com/
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interesting...now u can be an attack engie i guess.
new maps always nice to have

Somebody got a Gunslinger Mini-Sentry up to level 2 on Slaughter last night. I assume it was just a glitch, but it was definitely and upgraded Mini-Sentry; everyone went nuts on the server. :hmm:

Anyway, pretty cool update from what I saw last night.

KT
 

JTsyo

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Surprised Valve even had an option for level 2 mini-sentry. They probably just reskinned the sentry.
I need to go through my demo and spy achievements to see if there are any achievements I need to do against engineers. I know I haven't got the one to destroy 4 buildings in one sticky blast. I'm thinking there might be 4 teleporters or more at each spawn now.
 

lupi

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Spent most of my time last night on 12v12 with the mine cart check point. Were no class limitation that I could tell but kept around 4 engies a side, sometimes I'd see a fifth. Was on offense more than defense and had no trouble being able to keep wining by repositioning your stuff.
 
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