Thailand's dog meat trade...

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BUTCH1

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A troll I may be, but at least I'm not misguided with idiotic ideas.

I don't disagree with anything, anyone, anytime... I actually agree with people that do the sensible things; I agree with fixing our healthcare system; I agree that education should be this nation's priority; I agree that we should fix our country first before we try to fix others; etc...

You agree with useless shits that don't actually matter, therein the difference.

Turn on the TV. Watch the news. What's going on in Israel? Iran? Libya? Ukraine? Africa? Etc... People are being displaced, killed, maimed, no water, no food, no home.

Look closer to home, there are a myriad of things that you should care about.

But no, you bleed for some fucking dogs somewhere.

Get the fuck outta here.

Where did I say I didn't give a shit about all of the issues the US faces??,oh, that's right, I DIDN'T, but because it suits the troll purpose you insinuate I couldn't give a rat's ass about anything else except the dogs being tortured while knowing absolutely nothing about what my concerns are. Only an asshole troll thinks and post's the way you do, all of of us wish YOU would "get the fuck outta here", permanently.
 

randomrogue

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I have zero problem with people eating non-endangered species. Dogs? Cats? Rats? No problem. Just don't mistreat them.
 

swilli89

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Man the only effect on me that reading this post had was to direct me to awesome videos of people killing squealing pigs. I think if I heard the piercing squealing of a pig I could definitely bash it's face in the a pipe. I found myself clinching my teeth in anger when I watched some of these Peta videos about pug abuse ad in anger of lust, must be so satisfying to get some stress out by Fucking those pigs up ya know? But it's too bad those jobs aren't paid well/outside in the elements. I would never leave my office job for those conditions
 

Phokus

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Well, if we're having a serious conversation then you're obviously right, but based on the far more relevant criteria that I love dogs and Asians eat crazy shit, you're wrong.

So your morality is relative, gotcha.
 

SSSnail

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how much have you given?
I've given a SHIT TONNE to the Save the Unicorn Coalition. I've also donated a BOAT LOAD to the Enhance the Quality of Life for Kiwis Society.

On a lesser cause, I've in part helped financed unfortunate college girls by contributing to their tuition funds through performance art.

Seriously though, there are some kittens out there that need your saving. Quit wasting your time here.
 

bradly1101

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I'm an unapologetic meat-eater who is OK with people eating dog but not OK with the mistreatment of any livestock. I love my dogs but... Mmmm! Dogs.

Pigs are smarter than dogs and can be equally loyal/loving pets yet the same people who say "Not watching as I love my dog, not sure how people can do this." might say "Mmmm! Bacon." in response to a similar pig factory farming video.

Their status as loving pets should have nothing to do with your outrage. I live right next to a Hallal meat processing place which cuts the necks of all processed livestock while conscious and hangs them upside down on giant hooks to drain the blood. Cows, goats, and pigs (which, as we've established, is every bit as bad as doing this to dogs). It's practiced and tolerated for religious reasons. No one is protesting.

It's a culture thing. There are over a billion people that are appalled that we eat cows.
 

SSSnail

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Where did I say I didn't give a shit about all of the issues the US faces??,oh, that's right, I DIDN'T, but because it suits the troll purpose you insinuate I couldn't give a rat's ass about anything else except the dogs being tortured while knowing absolutely nothing about what my concerns are. Only an asshole troll thinks and post's the way you do, all of of us wish YOU would "get the fuck outta here", permanently.
That's alright dude, there are no nude chicks protesting on this forum, you can quit being a pretentious prick now.
 

BeeBoop

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Just found this video on how smart pigs are. Pretty cool. lol


Here's another one. AMAZING. The part that I found interesting is that she isn't being trained to do what they ask her to do, it's a thought process that allows her to do what she does.
 
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LTC8K6

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Maybe, b/c in many cultures dogs are considered pets and companions, let alone all of the services they've assisted man in the tens of thousands of years.

I recently met a woman with a service dog who is able detect seizures before the woman has one. The dog has a surgical implant that sends a distress signal to 911 when the dog becomes stressed due to his owner's impending seizure.

I sure tuna could do that too.

Why would it be a problem to have a pet dog and also eat dogs?

People have pet cows and still eat steak.

...pet pigs, and still eat bacon.

...pet fish, and still eat salmon.
 

Red Squirrel

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It's really sickening that there are people this fucked up in the head to do these things to an innocent living creature. I just have no words. I did not watch that particular video but I have seen and heard about this before. It's sadly very common.

If you're going to kill an animal at least kill it fast. These people see this as some kind of delicacy. They have their reasons why the animal has to be alive, it's completely insane.

These people deserve to suffer as much as these animals do. I would love to find myself in a room where these people are tied up, and where no laws apply.

Sadly this stuff even happens on our very own soil. Ever hear of the Canada seal hunt? Not something most Canadians endorse but sadly it happens every year. Millions of baby seals are needlessly slaughtered and skinned alive and left to die slowly. It's some kind of tradition.
 
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DigDog

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Dogs have been living with us, according to recent research, for possibly as long as 50k years or more.
but not with them.

and thats why they eat them.

its gross to me but not something like i feel condemning them about, since to them it's just food.
 

Markbnj

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but not with them.

and thats why they eat them.

its gross to me but not something like i feel condemning them about, since to them it's just food.

Is that true? Dogs have/had no role as pets and protectors in Asian history?
 

rh71

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I see the first link pic with the dead dogs hanging and I feel no sadness. I see the 2nd link with them alive and caged and I feel the same way I would if pigs were confined in a small area. The fact that they're dogs does not make me feel differently and I did have a dog for over 10 years.

I will not watch a video depicting cruelty to any animal.
 
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In the west we at least go for a quick death through electrocution or the pin through the head. Even then, the animal gets sedated first with gas (If my information is correct). With the exception of two religions that slit the throat of the animal and let it bleed to death. In these two cases, sedation is not used.
 
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BlitzPuppet

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In the west we at least go for a quick death through electrocution or the pin through the head. Even then, the animal gets sedated first with gas (If my information is correct). With the exception of two religions that slit the throat of the animal and let it bleed to death. In these two cases, sedation is not used.

I remember watching a video that was some type of asian religion where they sacrifice animals when someone dies (I assume to give them something to ride). They had a horse tied up to a tree painted and marked. They came at it with a sword and hacked at it's neck until it was bleeding profusely, it was panicking and stumbling around trying to get away as blood poured out of it's neck, and eventually collapsed until it died due to blood loss. That is absolutely disgusting, I felt bad for the poor thing since it had to suffer. But if it had a shot to the head and a large feast that followed? I wouldn't have cared.

Some of the stuff we as a human race do to animals in the name of anything can be very inhumane. I remember seeing a quote that read "If there really were dragons, china would be the first to kill it to see if it caused boners". lol
 
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I remember watching a video that was some type of asian religion where they sacrifice animals when someone dies (I assume to give them something to ride). They had a horse tied up to a tree painted and marked. They came at it with a sword and hacked at it's neck until it was bleeding profusely, it was panicking and stumbling around trying to get away as blood poured out of it's neck, and eventually collapsed until it died due to blood loss. That is absolutely disgusting, I felt bad for the poor thing since it had to suffer. But if it had a shot to the head and a large feast that followed? I wouldn't have cared.

Some of the stuff we as a human race do to animals in the name of anything can be very inhumane. I remember seeing a quote that read "If there really were dragons, china would be the first to kill it to see if it caused boners". lol

It is just sick.

A few years ago we had a discussion in the Netherlands about Kosher (Jewish) and halal(Muslim) slaughter practices. Both practices are allowed here through a special provision in the law.
I do am still interested if the Halal and Kosher slaughter method is beneficial for the quality of the meat. I never read or heard something about it. I also wondered if the body of the animal would be saturated with stress hormones prior to the slaughtering, as if being under attack by a predator. I may be wrong, but i guess most animals are aware of what is going to happen to them. Especially if they hear agonizing screaming or squealing from a fellow species member. With that being written, an animal being slaughtered Kosher or Halal style is probably already saturated with stress hormones. The big question is how unhealthy is this.

I always wanted a scientific explanation why Halal and Kosher slaughter practices are better or worse then the more "humane" slaughter practices.
I am not surprised that there never was a study done about this. It is an expensive study to test all the meat for certain hormones and chemicals.
And there is a lot of resistance against such studies. From the Jewish community and the Islamic community.

Oh well, we are still years away from the artificial meat.
 
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DesiPower

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Wait a minute, I can sign a petition sitting in a air conditioned room in a 1st world country and that will stop Dog brutality in a 3rd world country? wow!!!
 
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What i also wonder about with dog , cat or rat meat, there is no economy of scale. One healthy cow slaughtered, produces over 300kG of meat. You can feed 2000 people with that for a modest amount of 150 grams of meat.
 

Papagayo

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Just found this video on how smart pigs are. Pretty cool. lol


Here's another one. AMAZING. The part that I found interesting is that she isn't being trained to do what they ask her to do, it's a thought process that allows her to do what she does.

Have you watched any videos of Cows and Pigs going to the slaughter house?
I don't know how, but they know that they are going to get killed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/pig-jumps-from-truck_n_5490410.html

Also, I'm sure we don't look to good to Indians, since we eat cow.
 

MrDudeMan

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People are so fucked up. I don't mind eating animals and it doesn't matter which ones, but what we do as a species to every other living thing on this planet is fucked up beyond belief. Humans are nothing less than a scourge on this planet.
 

Strk

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I have no problem with eating meat, but there is no reason to treat them inhumanely. It's disgusting that people will torture animals. There is no need for this. It's why I have no issue with hunting, since those animals probably live better than any livestock ever will.
 

Phoenix86

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Care cup is pretty empty on this one.

First, who am I to tell one culture what meat is acceptable to eat and what isn't? I'm sure Hindus don't find our primary meat choice acceptable.

Second, while I want the things I eat to be killed in as humane a manner as possible, I can only control what I do and even then only to a degree. There's no fucking way I, or we here in the US can do anything to prevent this in another country/region.

Anything more than is mental masturbation.
 

Gooberlx2

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Pretty amazing how easily the fur comes off in boiling water, if only I could get a method that worked that well for hard boiled eggs.

Oh god. Is this an older documentary? I remember watching some HBO documentary in the early-to-mid 90s about animal abuse. They showed a video of a cat being tossed alive into boiling water and then, essentially, being full-body de-gloved. That short clip haunted me for a long long time.

I just can't stomach animal abuse documentaries.
 
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