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Deptacon

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Originally posted by: BBond
I must say you're analogies are WAY off base.

The U.S. dollar may say "In God We Trust" but you don't have to be a Christian to obtain citizenship in the USA. You DO have to be Jewish to obtain citizenship in Israel.

The idea that "BLACK" people might like watching "BLACK" Entertainment Television (if that is the case, I'm sure many "WHITE" people watch it too) is not a valid comparison with a major news event like the Israeli air force bombing Lebanon back into the stone age. The idea that westerners are garnering so much attention in our press is, apparently, even making some of THEM uncomfortable after witnessing what is the real story.

Western media, IMO, is reporting on westerners because the story coming out of Lebanon is too big to ignore and they would rather report on filler than actually show the world the truth about the massacre the Israelis are carrying out in Lebanon. The U.S. corporate owned press is doing in Lebanon just what they've done for years in Iraq. They are minimizing the real story and reporting secondary stories and "human interest" to evade reporting the awful truth.


That is one excellent piece of bullsh*t.....well done, thats quality,...such well written useless thoughts.... orgainized into well defined and captivating phrases.....man..... you liberals are good at what you do......so good...i give you props....
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Oh, and a tank in every back yard is a solution? It's working SO WELL in Iraq.

:roll:

Even our few remaining allies are getting sick and tired of the Israeli massacre of Lebanon.

US Isolated as Rift Grows with UK

Rift opens between Britain and US over Israeli offensive

More reasons to thank Israel.

:roll:



hey hey, there they are! the links! LINKS! give em LINKS!

i really REALLy wanna know what movement or website you guys work for..... i really do, cause you guys spill this crap day and night...they pay you overtime for the weekends?

and WTF would you know what is and is not working in IRAQ? have you been there? seen it yourself with your own eyes, or do you believe everything you see on tv.....

Funny that you are now in two threads suggesting OTHER people are working for someone as you ignore facts and spew the official party line at every opportunity.

Ex military or active? Why won't you anser, Deptacon?

Live "near Washington DC"? Work "in government"???

It's a proven fact that the scumbags in this administration use companies like the Lincoln Group and others to have their propaganda spread around the internet.

Me, I'm retired. I do this because I can't stand the lies day in and day out and out of love for my country. I hate seeing fascist pigs taking it over and ruining everything America stands for while they ignore the truth and propagandize.

Why don't you READ those links??? You might learn something. You might just learn that your propaganda masters aren't paying you enough.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
I must say you're analogies are WAY off base.

The U.S. dollar may say "In God We Trust" but you don't have to be a Christian to obtain citizenship in the USA. You DO have to be Jewish to obtain citizenship in Israel.

The idea that "BLACK" people might like watching "BLACK" Entertainment Television (if that is the case, I'm sure many "WHITE" people watch it too) is not a valid comparison with a major news event like the Israeli air force bombing Lebanon back into the stone age. The idea that westerners are garnering so much attention in our press is, apparently, even making some of THEM uncomfortable after witnessing what is the real story.

Western media, IMO, is reporting on westerners because the story coming out of Lebanon is too big to ignore and they would rather report on filler than actually show the world the truth about the massacre the Israelis are carrying out in Lebanon. The U.S. corporate owned press is doing in Lebanon just what they've done for years in Iraq. They are minimizing the real story and reporting secondary stories and "human interest" to evade reporting the awful truth.


That is one excellent piece of bullsh*t.....well done, thats quality,...such well written useless thoughts.... orgainized into well defined and captivating phrases.....man..... you liberals are good at what you do......so good...i give you props....

Why don't you try refuting the information instead of giving us your critique? Typical neocon tactic. Don't address the topic, attack the messenger.
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
I must say you're analogies are WAY off base.

The U.S. dollar may say "In God We Trust" but you don't have to be a Christian to obtain citizenship in the USA. You DO have to be Jewish to obtain citizenship in Israel.

The idea that "BLACK" people might like watching "BLACK" Entertainment Television (if that is the case, I'm sure many "WHITE" people watch it too) is not a valid comparison with a major news event like the Israeli air force bombing Lebanon back into the stone age. The idea that westerners are garnering so much attention in our press is, apparently, even making some of THEM uncomfortable after witnessing what is the real story.

Western media, IMO, is reporting on westerners because the story coming out of Lebanon is too big to ignore and they would rather report on filler than actually show the world the truth about the massacre the Israelis are carrying out in Lebanon. The U.S. corporate owned press is doing in Lebanon just what they've done for years in Iraq. They are minimizing the real story and reporting secondary stories and "human interest" to evade reporting the awful truth.


That is one excellent piece of bullsh*t.....well done, thats quality,...such well written useless thoughts.... orgainized into well defined and captivating phrases.....man..... you liberals are good at what you do......so good...i give you props....

Why don't you try refuting the information instead of giving us your critique? Typical neocon tactic. Don't address the topic, attack the messenger.


refute what!!! its your personal opinion..... and it may match some news articles your gonna find on yahoo or some other webpage online your going to link to in your rebutal... and then your gonna go SEE!!!! its in PRINT!!! its TRUE!!!!

you dont adress topics.....you crap all over em....
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: The Raven


Where did you get your info about having to be Jewish to become a citizen? That link you provided says that pretty much anyone can.

You must have missed this part...

On the establishment of the State, its founders proclaimed "...the renewal of the Jewish State in the Land of Israel, which would open wide the gates of the homeland to every Jew...." In pursuance of this tenet, the State of Israel has absorbed survivors of the Holocaust, refugees from the countries in which they had resided, as well as many thousands of Jews who came to settle in Israel of their own volition.

The Law of Return (1950) grants every Jew, wherever he or she may be, the right to come to Israel as an oleh (a Jew immigrating to Israel) and become an Israeli citizen.

For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother or has converted to Judaism and is not a member of another religion.

Is it clear now???

 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
I must say you're analogies are WAY off base.

The U.S. dollar may say "In God We Trust" but you don't have to be a Christian to obtain citizenship in the USA. You DO have to be Jewish to obtain citizenship in Israel.

The idea that "BLACK" people might like watching "BLACK" Entertainment Television (if that is the case, I'm sure many "WHITE" people watch it too) is not a valid comparison with a major news event like the Israeli air force bombing Lebanon back into the stone age. The idea that westerners are garnering so much attention in our press is, apparently, even making some of THEM uncomfortable after witnessing what is the real story.

Western media, IMO, is reporting on westerners because the story coming out of Lebanon is too big to ignore and they would rather report on filler than actually show the world the truth about the massacre the Israelis are carrying out in Lebanon. The U.S. corporate owned press is doing in Lebanon just what they've done for years in Iraq. They are minimizing the real story and reporting secondary stories and "human interest" to evade reporting the awful truth.


That is one excellent piece of bullsh*t.....well done, thats quality,...such well written useless thoughts.... orgainized into well defined and captivating phrases.....man..... you liberals are good at what you do......so good...i give you props....

Why don't you try refuting the information instead of giving us your critique? Typical neocon tactic. Don't address the topic, attack the messenger.


refute what!!! its your personal opinion..... and it may match some news articles your gonna find on yahoo or some other webpage online your going to link to in your rebutal... and then your gonna go SEE!!!! its in PRINT!!! its TRUE!!!!

you dont adress topics.....you crap all over em....

All you're doing is running your mouth. You refuse to read. You refuse to back up the garbage spewing from your propaganda hole with anything but opinion yet you say I give nothing but my opinion even as you complain that I post information which YOU REFUSE TO READ!

Man, how twisted is your mind to think that bullsh!t will fly? You're a freakin' joke. Read the damn links or post some information to refute them. Otherwise you're just all mouth and no substance.
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
I must say you're analogies are WAY off base.

The U.S. dollar may say "In God We Trust" but you don't have to be a Christian to obtain citizenship in the USA. You DO have to be Jewish to obtain citizenship in Israel.

The idea that "BLACK" people might like watching "BLACK" Entertainment Television (if that is the case, I'm sure many "WHITE" people watch it too) is not a valid comparison with a major news event like the Israeli air force bombing Lebanon back into the stone age. The idea that westerners are garnering so much attention in our press is, apparently, even making some of THEM uncomfortable after witnessing what is the real story.

Western media, IMO, is reporting on westerners because the story coming out of Lebanon is too big to ignore and they would rather report on filler than actually show the world the truth about the massacre the Israelis are carrying out in Lebanon. The U.S. corporate owned press is doing in Lebanon just what they've done for years in Iraq. They are minimizing the real story and reporting secondary stories and "human interest" to evade reporting the awful truth.


That is one excellent piece of bullsh*t.....well done, thats quality,...such well written useless thoughts.... orgainized into well defined and captivating phrases.....man..... you liberals are good at what you do......so good...i give you props....

Why don't you try refuting the information instead of giving us your critique? Typical neocon tactic. Don't address the topic, attack the messenger.


refute what!!! its your personal opinion..... and it may match some news articles your gonna find on yahoo or some other webpage online your going to link to in your rebutal... and then your gonna go SEE!!!! its in PRINT!!! its TRUE!!!!

you dont adress topics.....you crap all over em....

All you're doing is running your mouth. You refuse to read. You refuse to back up the garbage spewing from your propaganda hole with anything but opinion yet you say I give nothing but my opinion even as you complain that I post information which YOU REFUSE TO READ!

Man, how twisted is your mind to think that bullsh!t will fly? You're a freakin' joke. Read the damn links or post some information to refute them. Otherwise you're just all mouth and no substance.



congradulations... you just said to me in different words what I said to you on the last page.... your good...real original
 

replicator

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Yes. Thanks Israel for stoking the fires and helping to create new generations of extremists.

This is going to do nothing but create more hatred towards Israel, and ultimately the US as well. Israel has a right to defend itself, but what about everyone else?
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
I must say you're analogies are WAY off base.

The U.S. dollar may say "In God We Trust" but you don't have to be a Christian to obtain citizenship in the USA. You DO have to be Jewish to obtain citizenship in Israel.

The idea that "BLACK" people might like watching "BLACK" Entertainment Television (if that is the case, I'm sure many "WHITE" people watch it too) is not a valid comparison with a major news event like the Israeli air force bombing Lebanon back into the stone age. The idea that westerners are garnering so much attention in our press is, apparently, even making some of THEM uncomfortable after witnessing what is the real story.

Western media, IMO, is reporting on westerners because the story coming out of Lebanon is too big to ignore and they would rather report on filler than actually show the world the truth about the massacre the Israelis are carrying out in Lebanon. The U.S. corporate owned press is doing in Lebanon just what they've done for years in Iraq. They are minimizing the real story and reporting secondary stories and "human interest" to evade reporting the awful truth.


That is one excellent piece of bullsh*t.....well done, thats quality,...such well written useless thoughts.... orgainized into well defined and captivating phrases.....man..... you liberals are good at what you do......so good...i give you props....

Why don't you try refuting the information instead of giving us your critique? Typical neocon tactic. Don't address the topic, attack the messenger.


refute what!!! its your personal opinion..... and it may match some news articles your gonna find on yahoo or some other webpage online your going to link to in your rebutal... and then your gonna go SEE!!!! its in PRINT!!! its TRUE!!!!

you dont adress topics.....you crap all over em....

All you're doing is running your mouth. You refuse to read. You refuse to back up the garbage spewing from your propaganda hole with anything but opinion yet you say I give nothing but my opinion even as you complain that I post information which YOU REFUSE TO READ!

Man, how twisted is your mind to think that bullsh!t will fly? You're a freakin' joke. Read the damn links or post some information to refute them. Otherwise you're just all mouth and no substance.



congradulations... you just said to me in different words what I said to you on the last page.... your good...real original

 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
I must say you're analogies are WAY off base.

The U.S. dollar may say "In God We Trust" but you don't have to be a Christian to obtain citizenship in the USA. You DO have to be Jewish to obtain citizenship in Israel.

The idea that "BLACK" people might like watching "BLACK" Entertainment Television (if that is the case, I'm sure many "WHITE" people watch it too) is not a valid comparison with a major news event like the Israeli air force bombing Lebanon back into the stone age. The idea that westerners are garnering so much attention in our press is, apparently, even making some of THEM uncomfortable after witnessing what is the real story.

Western media, IMO, is reporting on westerners because the story coming out of Lebanon is too big to ignore and they would rather report on filler than actually show the world the truth about the massacre the Israelis are carrying out in Lebanon. The U.S. corporate owned press is doing in Lebanon just what they've done for years in Iraq. They are minimizing the real story and reporting secondary stories and "human interest" to evade reporting the awful truth.


That is one excellent piece of bullsh*t.....well done, thats quality,...such well written useless thoughts.... orgainized into well defined and captivating phrases.....man..... you liberals are good at what you do......so good...i give you props....

Why don't you try refuting the information instead of giving us your critique? Typical neocon tactic. Don't address the topic, attack the messenger.


refute what!!! its your personal opinion..... and it may match some news articles your gonna find on yahoo or some other webpage online your going to link to in your rebutal... and then your gonna go SEE!!!! its in PRINT!!! its TRUE!!!!

you dont adress topics.....you crap all over em....

All you're doing is running your mouth. You refuse to read. You refuse to back up the garbage spewing from your propaganda hole with anything but opinion yet you say I give nothing but my opinion even as you complain that I post information which YOU REFUSE TO READ!

Man, how twisted is your mind to think that bullsh!t will fly? You're a freakin' joke. Read the damn links or post some information to refute them. Otherwise you're just all mouth and no substance.



congradulations... you just said to me in different words what I said to you on the last page.... your good...real original

Your motto:

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

If you don't know how, LEARN TO READ. Then READ. You might find out that the fantasies that fill your head, the ones you hold so dear, are all bullsh!t.

Are your eyes brown? If they are I think I know why.


 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
I must say you're analogies are WAY off base.

The U.S. dollar may say "In God We Trust" but you don't have to be a Christian to obtain citizenship in the USA. You DO have to be Jewish to obtain citizenship in Israel.

The idea that "BLACK" people might like watching "BLACK" Entertainment Television (if that is the case, I'm sure many "WHITE" people watch it too) is not a valid comparison with a major news event like the Israeli air force bombing Lebanon back into the stone age. The idea that westerners are garnering so much attention in our press is, apparently, even making some of THEM uncomfortable after witnessing what is the real story.

Western media, IMO, is reporting on westerners because the story coming out of Lebanon is too big to ignore and they would rather report on filler than actually show the world the truth about the massacre the Israelis are carrying out in Lebanon. The U.S. corporate owned press is doing in Lebanon just what they've done for years in Iraq. They are minimizing the real story and reporting secondary stories and "human interest" to evade reporting the awful truth.


That is one excellent piece of bullsh*t.....well done, thats quality,...such well written useless thoughts.... orgainized into well defined and captivating phrases.....man..... you liberals are good at what you do......so good...i give you props....

Why don't you try refuting the information instead of giving us your critique? Typical neocon tactic. Don't address the topic, attack the messenger.


refute what!!! its your personal opinion..... and it may match some news articles your gonna find on yahoo or some other webpage online your going to link to in your rebutal... and then your gonna go SEE!!!! its in PRINT!!! its TRUE!!!!

you dont adress topics.....you crap all over em....

All you're doing is running your mouth. You refuse to read. You refuse to back up the garbage spewing from your propaganda hole with anything but opinion yet you say I give nothing but my opinion even as you complain that I post information which YOU REFUSE TO READ!

Man, how twisted is your mind to think that bullsh!t will fly? You're a freakin' joke. Read the damn links or post some information to refute them. Otherwise you're just all mouth and no substance.



congradulations... you just said to me in different words what I said to you on the last page.... your good...real original

Your motto:

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

If you don't know how, LEARN TO READ. Then READ. You might find out that the fantasies that fill your head, the ones you hold so dear, are all bullsh!t.

Are your eyes brown? If they are I think I know why.


WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! Tell me how you would know or think what my motto is... i haven't given any direction as to what what i think about war or freedom or anything in the prior posts....

All i have said is that I think its good Israel is doing something about thier neighbors, and you spew out these huge borad statements about what YOU think my motto is....

Just like your post in the other thread baout me loving bush... I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED BUSH AT ALL!

I nthe past few posts in this thread and the other one you have managed to call me:

A bush lover
a neocon
propogandist

YET I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANY POLITICAL OPINION OR DIRECTION AT ALL, JUST THAT I AGREE WITH WHAT ISRAEL IS DOING


STOP Commenting on War like you know it when you have never even seen it with your own eyes...
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Deptacon


WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! Tell me how you would know or think what my motto is... i haven't given any direction as to what what i think about war or freedom or anything in the prior posts....

All i have said is that I think its good Israel is doing something about thier neighbors, and you spew out these huge borad statements about what YOU think my motto is....

Just like your post in the other thread baout me loving bush... I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED BUSH AT ALL!

I nthe past few posts in this thread and the other one you have managed to call me:

A bush lover
a neocon
propogandist

YET I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANY POLITICAL OPINION OR DIRECTION AT ALL, JUST THAT I AGREE WITH WHAT ISRAEL IS DOING


STOP Commenting on War like you know it when you have never even seen it with your own eyes...

STOP Commenting on ME like you know ME when you have never even seen ME with your own eyes...

:roll:

:laugh:

You're too damn funny. You're doing all this as a parody, right?

That must be it. You're doing a parody. :laugh:

Too damn funny!

 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Deptacon


WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! Tell me how you would know or think what my motto is... i haven't given any direction as to what what i think about war or freedom or anything in the prior posts....

All i have said is that I think its good Israel is doing something about thier neighbors, and you spew out these huge borad statements about what YOU think my motto is....

Just like your post in the other thread baout me loving bush... I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED BUSH AT ALL!

I nthe past few posts in this thread and the other one you have managed to call me:

A bush lover
a neocon
propogandist

YET I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ANY POLITICAL OPINION OR DIRECTION AT ALL, JUST THAT I AGREE WITH WHAT ISRAEL IS DOING


STOP Commenting on War like you know it when you have never even seen it with your own eyes...

STOP Commenting on ME like you know ME when you have never even seen ME with your own eyes...

:roll:

:laugh:

You're too damn funny. You're doing all this as a parody, right?

That must be it. You're doing a parody. :laugh:

Too damn funny!


nope but i have been reading your daily BS for awhile.... writes bullshit, talks bullshit, must be bullshit

im done, i have wasted enough in this section..... Im going to discuss TECHNOLOGY on the TECHNOLOGY pages.... ON A TECHNOLOGY website...

BBond, have you ever posted outside of the politics area? Nope, just did a search.....all 8100 posts right here? What left wing orgainization do you work for? are you gonna tell us? or do you not what that knowledge out in the open that your full time job is to post here about politics...
 

The Raven

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This isn't really in line with the immediate train of thought, but I'm just waiting for Bond's reply as he seemed to skip over me there:

I noticed in reading this thread that people were going back and forth about who started what and who came from where, etc. But I don't think the spewing off of "facts" by everyone contributes much to this "discussion." This is exactly what the ME countries have been doing since time began and is the reason they are still fighting. You don't need any knowledge about history to stop a fight. In fact, that is what perpetuates this kind of thing. If BOTH sides could just forgive each other and forget about the troubles of the past then we wouldn't have this situation. But they won't, and that is why Israel is attacking. Let's just pray that it will resolve the decades of suffering.

We all should know that there are biases in both the news and by association the history books (especially religious records such as the Bible and the Torah). I don't know why you guys were linking to Lebanese papers to make pro-Lebanese points and Israeli papers to make pro-Israeli points. That's not very good rhetoric.

Let's just stick to the simple facts, that is, the things that pretty much everyone agrees are true. I think everyone here, and in the ME, should live in the now and plan for the future. Things would be a lot better.

Now just waiting for Bond. He's probably reading the Israeli naturalization requirements again .
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: The Raven
This isn't really in line with the immediate train of thought, but I'm just waiting for Bond's reply as he seemed to skip over me there:

I noticed in reading this thread that people were going back and forth about who started what and who came from where, etc. But I don't think the spewing off of "facts" by everyone contributes much to this "discussion." This is exactly what the ME countries have been doing since time began and is the reason they are still fighting. You don't need any knowledge about history to stop a fight. In fact, that is what perpetuates this kind of thing. If BOTH sides could just forgive each other and forget about the troubles of the past then we wouldn't have this situation. But they won't, and that is why Israel is attacking. Let's just pray that it will resolve the decades of suffering.

We all should know that there are biases in both the news and by association the history books (especially religious records such as the Bible and the Torah). I don't know why you guys were linking to Lebanese papers to make pro-Lebanese points and Israeli papers to make pro-Israeli points. That's not very good rhetoric.

Let's just stick to the simple facts, that is, the things that pretty much everyone agrees are true. I think everyone here, and in the ME, should live in the now and plan for the future. Things would be a lot better.

Now just waiting for Bond. He's probably reading the Israeli naturalization requirements again .

Why don't you read them ONCE and get your facts straight? I didn't skip over you. My reply to you and the pertinent excerpts from Israel's immigration policies is at the bottom of the previous page. Let me know when YOU get a chance to read it.

You obviously didn't read it if you still think a non-Jew can become a citizen of Israel.
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: The Raven
This isn't really in line with the immediate train of thought, but I'm just waiting for Bond's reply as he seemed to skip over me there:

I noticed in reading this thread that people were going back and forth about who started what and who came from where, etc. But I don't think the spewing off of "facts" by everyone contributes much to this "discussion." This is exactly what the ME countries have been doing since time began and is the reason they are still fighting. You don't need any knowledge about history to stop a fight. In fact, that is what perpetuates this kind of thing. If BOTH sides could just forgive each other and forget about the troubles of the past then we wouldn't have this situation. But they won't, and that is why Israel is attacking. Let's just pray that it will resolve the decades of suffering.

We all should know that there are biases in both the news and by association the history books (especially religious records such as the Bible and the Torah). I don't know why you guys were linking to Lebanese papers to make pro-Lebanese points and Israeli papers to make pro-Israeli points. That's not very good rhetoric.

Let's just stick to the simple facts, that is, the things that pretty much everyone agrees are true. I think everyone here, and in the ME, should live in the now and plan for the future. Things would be a lot better.

Now just waiting for Bond. He's probably reading the Israeli naturalization requirements again .

Why don't you read them ONCE and get your facts straight? I didn't skip over you. My reply to you and the pertinent excerpts from Israel's immigration policies is at the bottom of the previous page. Let me know when YOU get a chance to read it.

You obviously didn't read it if you still think a non-Jew can become a citizen of Israel.

you read too much, especially in the media...
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: The Raven
This isn't really in line with the immediate train of thought, but I'm just waiting for Bond's reply as he seemed to skip over me there:

I noticed in reading this thread that people were going back and forth about who started what and who came from where, etc. But I don't think the spewing off of "facts" by everyone contributes much to this "discussion." This is exactly what the ME countries have been doing since time began and is the reason they are still fighting. You don't need any knowledge about history to stop a fight. In fact, that is what perpetuates this kind of thing. If BOTH sides could just forgive each other and forget about the troubles of the past then we wouldn't have this situation. But they won't, and that is why Israel is attacking. Let's just pray that it will resolve the decades of suffering.

We all should know that there are biases in both the news and by association the history books (especially religious records such as the Bible and the Torah). I don't know why you guys were linking to Lebanese papers to make pro-Lebanese points and Israeli papers to make pro-Israeli points. That's not very good rhetoric.

Let's just stick to the simple facts, that is, the things that pretty much everyone agrees are true. I think everyone here, and in the ME, should live in the now and plan for the future. Things would be a lot better.

Now just waiting for Bond. He's probably reading the Israeli naturalization requirements again .

Why don't you read them ONCE and get your facts straight? I didn't skip over you. My reply to you and the pertinent excerpts from Israel's immigration policies is at the bottom of the previous page. Let me know when YOU get a chance to read it.

You obviously didn't read it if you still think a non-Jew can become a citizen of Israel.

you read too much, especially in the media...

You can't READ TOO MUCH. You can only read too little. You're ill-informed because you CHOOSE to be. Then you have the nerve to criticize me for "reading too much"???

You've GOT to be kidding.

:roll:
 

The Raven

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: The Raven
This isn't really in line with the immediate train of thought, but I'm just waiting for Bond's reply as he seemed to skip over me there:

I noticed in reading this thread that people were going back and forth about who started what and who came from where, etc. But I don't think the spewing off of "facts" by everyone contributes much to this "discussion." This is exactly what the ME countries have been doing since time began and is the reason they are still fighting. You don't need any knowledge about history to stop a fight. In fact, that is what perpetuates this kind of thing. If BOTH sides could just forgive each other and forget about the troubles of the past then we wouldn't have this situation. But they won't, and that is why Israel is attacking. Let's just pray that it will resolve the decades of suffering.

We all should know that there are biases in both the news and by association the history books (especially religious records such as the Bible and the Torah). I don't know why you guys were linking to Lebanese papers to make pro-Lebanese points and Israeli papers to make pro-Israeli points. That's not very good rhetoric.

Let's just stick to the simple facts, that is, the things that pretty much everyone agrees are true. I think everyone here, and in the ME, should live in the now and plan for the future. Things would be a lot better.

Now just waiting for Bond. He's probably reading the Israeli naturalization requirements again .

Why don't you read them ONCE and get your facts straight? I didn't skip over you. My reply to you and the pertinent excerpts from Israel's immigration policies is at the bottom of the previous page. Let me know when YOU get a chance to read it.

You obviously didn't read it if you still think a non-Jew can become a citizen of Israel.

Sorry bro I missed that in the mudslinging going on. Please don't. You just drive people away from you.

As for the Citizenship thing:

Israel's Nationality Law relates to anyone wishing to settle in Israel, as well as those already residing or born there, regardless of race, religion, creed, sex or political beliefs. Citizenship may be acquired by:

Birth
The Law of Return
Residence
Naturalization

There are 4 sections. You were looking at the "Law of return" portion only.

That's why I was confused.
 

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Originally posted by: The Raven


Sorry bro I missed that in the mudslinging going on. Please don't. You just drive people away from you.

I probably do drive people away from me but I really don't care any more. I'm old enough to have seen a few of these acts already and the one that's playing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue now is far and away the worst I've ever seen.

I tried to reason with people but that didn't work so I SCREAMED at people warning them about bush and Iraq but they still wouldn't listen. Now, even with the information at their fingertips THEY REFUSE TO EVEN READ IT! They INSIST on defending this nightmare of "leadership" even in the face of near total failure in Iraq. And it was all UNNECESSARY! Thousands upon thousands of lives wasted, hundreds of billions of dollars wasted, the Middle East is ready to explode, and these people still defend the perpetrators of this CRIME!

People like this I WANT to drive away from me. There is no hope for them. They refuse to recognize or accept what is happening right in front of their own eyes. I'd rather be an outcast than participate in this charade.
 

The Raven

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: The Raven


Sorry bro I missed that in the mudslinging going on. Please don't. You just drive people away from you.

I probably do drive people away from me but I really don't care any more. I'm old enough to have seen a few of these acts already and the one that's playing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue now is far and away the worst I've ever seen.

I tried to reason with people but that didn't work so I SCREAMED at people warning them about bush and Iraq but they still wouldn't listen. Now, even with the information at their fingertips THEY REFUSE TO EVEN READ IT! They INSIST on defending this nightmare of "leadership" even in the face of near total failure in Iraq. And it was all UNNECESSARY! Thousands upon thousands of lives wasted, hundreds of billions of dollars wasted, the Middle East is ready to explode, and these people still defend the perpetrators of this CRIME!

People like this I WANT to drive away from me. There is no hope for them. They refuse to recognize or accept what is happening right in front of their own eyes. I'd rather be an outcast than participate in this charade.

See this is what I'm talkin' about. You sound like you are using the tactics of the Israelis that you are attacking. This is why I say that we should not judge them and call them idiots and terrorists because we all do this crap. This is a natural reaction. It's because we get frustrated like you say. People get sick of never ending ceasefires and want to live in peace. Can you really blame the israelis for getting into this mindset? No. Nor do I think you're an idiot because you go and fly off the handle at people that won't listen to you.

This is why I have never attacked you in the few posts that I've put up here. (I did take a joking stab back there about the reading the Israel thing but I was just trying to bring some levity to the convo.) I don't think you're an idiot because you don't agree with me. I just think you have a different opinion. I would like to understand why you have that opinion but these guys get you riled up and nothing but crap (in my eyes) comes out. No offense. I'm just try to think think logically and people can't sway me one way or the other when they just scream at each other. By the way if you are wondering my pol-aff, I'm a far-left wing republican currently registered as an indie. If you would've been able to sway anyone it would've been me.
 

jrenz

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: The Raven


Sorry bro I missed that in the mudslinging going on. Please don't. You just drive people away from you.

I probably do drive people away from me but I really don't care any more. I'm old enough to have seen a few of these acts already and the one that's playing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue now is far and away the worst I've ever seen.

I tried to reason with people but that didn't work so I SCREAMED at people warning them about bush and Iraq but they still wouldn't listen. Now, even with the information at their fingertips THEY REFUSE TO EVEN READ IT! They INSIST on defending this nightmare of "leadership" even in the face of near total failure in Iraq. And it was all UNNECESSARY! Thousands upon thousands of lives wasted, hundreds of billions of dollars wasted, the Middle East is ready to explode, and these people still defend the perpetrators of this CRIME!

People like this I WANT to drive away from me. There is no hope for them. They refuse to recognize or accept what is happening right in front of their own eyes. I'd rather be an outcast than participate in this charade.

So, now you understand how everyone in Israel feels in dealing with the Islamic militants. I'm glad you finally had your breakthrough.
 
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