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HeaterCore

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NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS....BUT ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIM.....

Er....Ted Kacynski? Eric Robert Rudolph? Timoth McVeigh? Abortion clinic bombers? The Provisional IRA? ETA? Aum Shinrikyo? Shining Path? FARC? Baruch Goldstein? Makhteret?

Muslims make up the vast majority of terrorists, sure, and they've got their own uniquely psychotic brand of terrorism, but let's not pretend that other groups are always above using nonstate violence for political ends.
 

inthell

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these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.
 

HeaterCore

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Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

I don't think anyone's got any sympathy for Hezbollah here; that's not the point at all. What sympathy there is is directed towards the hundreds or thousands of civilians killed or wounded.
 

skisteven1

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Originally posted by: alejandroAT
ok , time for summarising cause its getting out of hand....

I repeat here that i am not pro -Hezbollah, rather i condemn them. What i am saying is that Israel has of course the right to defend itself but under no circumstances does it have the right to ask for moral permission to kill innocents. As far as i am concerned, Israel right now is becoming just like its enemy. If we are prepared to condemn Hez for all the bad stuff (which i do) then you bet your sweet tush i am condemning Israel for all the innocent victims. Dropping phosphorus bombs on children in order to intimidate your enemy is TERRORISM.....if you dont like the word it doesnt mean it will go away dude.

Raven....falaffels are not greek mate....

And you surely would speak of an attack if your neighbours' jets were flying over your house breaking all the windows with the noise.

Israel is NOTHING like Hezbollah. Keep in mind, Hezbollah is attacking civilian targets merely for the sake of doing so. Israel would be totally happy if they could attack ONLY hezbollah targets -- unfortunetly, Hez hides among civilians in order to make themselves more harder targets. When Israel is forced to attack a civilian area, many times they drop pamphlets (in arabic) telling local residents to get the hell out.

Whileit may appear that they have similar tactics, the motivation and execution of those tactics are completely different.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: HeaterCore
Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

I don't think anyone's got any sympathy for Hezbollah here; that's not the point at all. What sympathy there is is directed towards the hundreds or thousands of civilians killed or wounded.

Wow... under 1000 got to hundreds of thousands pretty quickly there.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

So we're evil animals too then for slaughtering tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: HeaterCore
Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

I don't think anyone's got any sympathy for Hezbollah here; that's not the point at all. What sympathy there is is directed towards the hundreds or thousands of civilians killed or wounded.

Wow... under 1000 got to hundreds of thousands pretty quickly there.

There is a big difference between 'of' and 'or'.

 

inthell

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

So we're evil animals too then for slaughtering tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: HeaterCore
Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

I don't think anyone's got any sympathy for Hezbollah here; that's not the point at all. What sympathy there is is directed towards the hundreds or thousands of civilians killed or wounded.

most of the civilians killed probably support the terrorists. if you support terrorists you must also take responsibilty for their actions
 

Gamer X

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Originally posted by: inthell
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

So we're evil animals too then for slaughtering tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: HeaterCore
Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

I don't think anyone's got any sympathy for Hezbollah here; that's not the point at all. What sympathy there is is directed towards the hundreds or thousands of civilians killed or wounded.

most of the civilians killed probably support the terrorists. if you support terrorists you must also take responsibilty for their actions

US bombers killed thousands in Fallujah in a matter of days without any discrimination. Iraqis are not terrorists; they are defending their country which, to their misfortune, happen to be an oil rich one.
 

inthell

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Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: inthell
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

So we're evil animals too then for slaughtering tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: HeaterCore
Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

I don't think anyone's got any sympathy for Hezbollah here; that's not the point at all. What sympathy there is is directed towards the hundreds or thousands of civilians killed or wounded.

most of the civilians killed probably support the terrorists. if you support terrorists you must also take responsibilty for their actions

US bombers killed thousands in Fallujah in a matter of days without any discrimination. Iraqis are not terrorists; they are defending their country which, to their misfortune, happen to be an oil rich one.

i meant southern lebanese citizens who support hezollah. sry for the confusion. The Iraq war is awful for the iraqis and U.S. soldiers.

on a lighter note http://www.cagle.com/news/IsraelGaza/images/tab4.gif
 

HeaterCore

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: HeaterCore
Originally posted by: inthell
these Hezbollah terrorists and the Lebanese goverment unleashed this war. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. Hezbollah slaughtered 200+ U.S. soldiers in 1983, they are evil animals.

I don't think anyone's got any sympathy for Hezbollah here; that's not the point at all. What sympathy there is is directed towards the hundreds or thousands of civilians killed or wounded.

Wow... under 1000 got to hundreds of thousands pretty quickly there.

Yep. Hundreds or thousands. I figured with an estimated death toll of around 400, the number injured has to be a couple times that number.
 

Noobtastic

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What's the implication?

That Israel is just as bad as Hezbollah?


All of you say you don't support Hezbollah, but also don't support civilian deaths?

The debate isn't whether or not hezbollah is bad, or whether or not civilian casulties are bad.

It is obvious they are both bad, but to say the Lebanese citizens are innocent is absurd. Hezbollah got Israel out of Lebanon and Hezbollah provides jobs (yes jobs) for lebanese civilians. I hear they got great dental. Lebanon, pretty much loves Hezbollah as does the rest of the arab countries. It pretty much controls the country and runs everything. Why do you think state policitians are able to communicate with hezbollian members so easily? They both need each other.

Saying hezbollah hides behind citizens is a joke. They are hezbollah.
Try finding an islamic theocratic anti-hezbollah politician that contributed financially into ending it.

Osama Bin Laden is to Pakistan as Hezbollah is to the Arab world.


Even though these muslim sects have many conflicting views that often lead to bloodshed, they have one common goal: Get rid of Israel.
We should be thanking allah that Israel hasn't sent in 20 Jericho missles into Lebanon to end Hezbollian occupation and is instead taking the more difficult route.

The people who need to be tried under UN laws are the people running Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria. They are the core financial contributers to Islamic terrorism.

The money we use to buy oil pays for our own blood.

Oh the irony.

 

BBond

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I don't support Israel or Hezbollah. I just don't believe the Israeli propaganda.

When someone is dropping bombs on you, you don't care if they're Israeli or Arab. And making excuses for one or the other side only perpetuates the situation. Until all sides own up to their actions there isn't gong to be any peace.

Maybe Israel was a mistake. Who ever thought that dropping and Israeli state in the middle of their enemies' lands would ever work? After nearly sixty years we're still at square one and someday the entire Middle East is going to explode and take the rest of us with them.

From an Arab point of view Israel is the oppressor. From and Israeli point of view Arabs are terrorists. There is no solution to this. No one is willing to yield any ground. There can be no good outcome.
 

inthell

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Originally posted by: BBond


From an Arab point of view Israel is the oppressor. From and Israeli point of view Arabs are terrorists. There is no solution to this. No one is willing to yield any ground. There can be no good outcome.

ya i dont see how this can end. sad
 

HeaterCore

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I say we make use of a couple of bombs that are scheduled for decommission, turn the whole region into a glass parking lot, and then repopulate it with sane people. Maybe people from Wisconsin.
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: BBond
Israel in Lebanon is starting to look a lot like America in Iraq.
:roll:


Whenever Israel begins putting the hurt on someone, the UN & US always rush in to form a cease fire. Wouldn't want to offend those pesky oil arab ties now would we?


Funny, no major news agency reported that 1/3 of the evacuating non-lebanese citizens in lebanon are from Dearborne MI. The only support hezbollah gets from the US is from dear borne MI...hmmm....

Israel is taking into consideration that this is an urban environment. They could end it in a second, but they have made the sad decision (sad because whatever decision they make, the western world will always criticize it) to take the more difficult route.


Nobody cares about slavery in Saudi Arabia. Nobody cares about the massecres between jordan-palastinians. Nobody cares about facts.

They care about innocent civilian deaths. They don't wanna hear about Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria funding Hezbollah. They don't want to hear that a CNN reporter embellshed civilian death toll in Lebanon (which he admited).


Major news coverage of this war, or any war is bogus. This companies are being funded by arab investors, even Faux news.

Saying something politicially incorrect (like Israel success) will get you fired or kidnapped.


History has proven time after time after time Israel always has come out on top even on the worst case scenario.







 

skisteven1

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Originally posted by: BBond
I don't support Israel or Hezbollah. I just don't believe the Israeli propaganda.

When someone is dropping bombs on you, you don't care if they're Israeli or Arab. And making excuses for one or the other side only perpetuates the situation. Until all sides own up to their actions there isn't gong to be any peace.

Maybe Israel was a mistake. Who ever thought that dropping and Israeli state in the middle of their enemies' lands would ever work? After nearly sixty years we're still at square one and someday the entire Middle East is going to explode and take the rest of us with them.

From an Arab point of view Israel is the oppressor. From and Israeli point of view Arabs are terrorists. There is no solution to this. No one is willing to yield any ground. There can be no good outcome.

I would disagree with this... The Israelis have offered to yield on many occasions. Remember when they pulled out of gaza under a year ago? Remember the camp david talks where Israel offered tons of land, and the palestinians rejected it? Israel gave up land it captured during wars (wars that it did not start), all in the efforts of peace.

Talking to the average Israeli on the street -- they'd be happy to make many concessions in order to stop the attacks on their people and their land. People will do nearly anything to avoid burying their children so often.

Whenever Israel offers something, it seems to not be enough for the Palestinians, or the Arabs of the area. The problem is that every time they offer something, and they are rejected, or the peace lasts for a year or two and then is renewed.... Israelis are tired of it. They just want to live in peace -- but will fight fiercely for their right to live.

EDIT: for grammar
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: BBond
Israel in Lebanon is starting to look a lot like America in Iraq.
:roll:


Whenever Israel begins putting the hurt on someone, the UN & US always rush in to form a cease fire. Wouldn't want to offend those pesky oil arab ties now would we?


Funny, no major news agency reported that 1/3 of the evacuating non-lebanese citizens in lebanon are from Dearborne MI. The only support hezbollah gets from the US is from dear borne MI...hmmm....

Israel is taking into consideration that this is an urban environment. They could end it in a second, but they have made the sad decision (sad because whatever decision they make, the western world will always criticize it) to take the more difficult route.


Nobody cares about slavery in Saudi Arabia. Nobody cares about the massecres between jordan-palastinians. Nobody cares about facts.

They care about innocent civilian deaths. They don't wanna hear about Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria funding Hezbollah. They don't want to hear that a CNN reporter embellshed civilian death toll in Lebanon (which he admited).


Major news coverage of this war, or any war is bogus. This companies are being funded by arab investors, even Faux news.

Saying something politicially incorrect (like Israel success) will get you fired or kidnapped.


History has proven time after time after time Israel always has come out on top even on the worst case scenario.

QFT
 

Siwy

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Every single thread I post in about Israel, it always seem to be the last post.

LOL.

That?s because you are brainless, your posts are not formatted correctly so they are hard to follow and they don?t make any sense.

Let?s just take a look at your first paragraph above.

Whenever Israel begins putting the hurt on someone, the UN & US always rush in to form a cease fire. Wouldn't want to offend those pesky oil arab ties now would we?

Have you been following the news? Unlike other countries, US does not want an immediate ceasefire.

Anyone who reads your first sentence can see you?re an uninformed fool not worth the effort.

LOL
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: Siwy
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Every single thread I post in about Israel, it always seem to be the last post.

LOL.

That?s because you are brainless, your posts are not formatted correctly so they are hard to follow and they don?t make any sense.
What parts don't make sense? I title each section appropriately. Just because you lack comphrension skills and an attention span doesn't make it my fault.


Have you been following the news? Unlike other countries, US does not want an immediate ceasefire.
I'm talking about the past. You are speaking semantics, either way the entire world wants a cease fire even though Israel isn't the aggressor. This still does't justify any of the points I made in my previous post.

Anyone who reads your first sentence can see you?re an uninformed fool not worth the effort.

LOL

I seriously doubt anyone has read it. They are so full of their own s**t, anything that goes against it must be racist or uninformed.



 

alejandroAT

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racist like this:

Sadam MAY have chemical weapons so he is a terrorist and hides and trains terrorists so we break down the whole country to take him down.

Israel IS using chemical weapons right now, but i guess they are not terrorists because they are not muslim.

How's this for racism?
 

Siwy

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic

What parts don't make sense? I title each section appropriately. Just because you lack comphrension skills and an attention span doesn't make it my fault.
I?m talking about posts in other threads, for example the one I linked to above where you supposedly replied to me, but it doesn?t really look like a reply but some badly formatted garbage.
I'm talking about the past. You are speaking semantics,
When you say ?US always rush in? that means always, unless ?always? means something different in your part of the world. And that sentence was not in the past, otherwise you would have used ?rushed in? instead of ?rush in?. So suck it up, dumbo.
either way the entire world wants a cease fire even though Israel isn't the aggressor.
See, you are wrong again; the entire world does not want a cease fire. US and Canada for example want Israel to keep going until Hazbollah is gone from that region ~ that is not equivalent to a ceasefire.


 
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