Thank You Mike Pence

[Pohemi]

I am not surprised you choose to fight them over every inch of ground...
...Shame, that you do not understand the consequences of such a rash move.

Oh, but I do understand.
What you do not realize or comprehend is that I do not give a shit, much less two.

Democrats are the only party members that have made any attempt to find common ground in the last 4 decades, and members of the GOP keep pushing the boundary further and further. Now in the past 2 or 3 decades, the misinformation (and birth of social media) has worked a good part of the voting populace into brainwashed idiocy who act on conspiracy theories and lies instead of verifiable facts.

Does it mean we should fancy their whims, simply because they believe conspiratorial lies and fantasies? I say FUCK NO.

 

[Captante]

In most actually fair deals BOTH sides do leave the table unhappy to a degree. It's often referred to as compromise.

It's also mostly a lost art.

 

[Bitek]

The chance for Republicans to disavow Trump came early in 2020. For Impeachment landed on their desks. They objected and stood by their monster.

Republicans ARE Trump, never forget, never forgive. They would do it all again at next available opportunity.

Those FEW with a conscience can join Biden in the center while the rest of us push on ahead to make positive change for the American people.

Democrats gave them an offramp, but they refused to take it. Every single one of them.

Yeah Romney is speaking harsh words now, but he blinked too.

What do you bet McConnell would be majority leader today had they shivved Trump and let Slick Pence take over?

 

[shortylickens]

In most actually fair deals BOTH sides do leave the table unhappy to a degree. It's often referred to as compromise.

It's also mostly a lost art.

The problem with that bullshit system is everyone who thinks he's a smooth fucking operator has learned to ask for loads of shit they dont actually care about, and at the end of the negotiation there's usually nothing but a mess.

In the case of congress it basically means spending your entire career playing games while the bulk of the population suffers needlessly. And they have refined the game to the point where most of them don't even have to argue with each other any more, or smear each other. They let the general public do that to each other while they sit back and drink expensive whiskey and laugh at us.
Divide and conquer worked very well and yesterday's riot proves me right. We actually have millions of people believing their nation is being threatened by a "Deep State" when really its us doing it to ourselves.

If somebody wanted to tar and feather Rupert Murdoch I wouldn't complain.

 

[SmCaudata]

To be a little fair.
What kind of target would Pence paint on his back if he did this? He would become the singular focus of the Trump-mob.
Of course, still should have done it, his job.

Pres and Vice pres are unfortunately targets all the time. It's why they get secret service for life. Also, he keeps saying that it's only the left that is violent. What does he have to worry about?

 

[MtnMan]

Do you know any Trumpers personally?

They believe the election was stolen.
They believe no elections will ever be won or matter from this point.
They believe Democracy has fallen and you no longer have their consent in ANY regard.
They believe COVID is a hoax used to weaken and control them.
They want violent force used today.

This ideology is spreading throughout social media. It has a recruitment drive. It is a political party. Their endgame is blood and terror. It is real, it is here, it is now. Marching on the Capitol was just a sideshow. That was peaceful compared to who is waiting on the side and looking for an excuse to go in hot. Sooner or later they'll organize into effective terror cells.

I support posturing in a way that weakens them. Before we draw a line and they cross it.

I do and I have had zero interaction with them since he told me that the pandemic was a hoax, and that by April it would all be over. And that suits me just fine, I have no desire to talk to him again.

The wife did chat with his wife from time to time online, probably up until late summer, and she finally stopped responding as he was full on CULT45 and it was rubbing off on her.

 

[MAW1082]

Just sayin'

 

[Pohemi]

Just sayin'

For a 5 week necro on a dead thread, that isn't saying shit. Care to explain?

 

[shortylickens]

LURKER!!!!

I spotted him first!

Seriously though what is he sayin?

 

[cytg111]

Pres and Vice pres are unfortunately targets all the time. It's why they get secret service for life. Also, he keeps saying that it's only the left that is violent. What does he have to worry about?

And as it turned out, he got a target painted on his back anyway... what was it they chanted ... hang him? (dont wanna spell out the actual phrase here)

 

[zinfamous]

LURKER!!!!

I spotted him first!

Seriously though what is he sayin?

it looks like what happened, if you go back and read the OP, is that this thread was posted with a new account, he later managed to restore his old lost account with mod help, and that post was retroactively restored to the old account, which he used to bump this thread.

 

[trenchfoot]

Pence, along with every other ass sucking sycophant that heeled to Trump's alarmingly fascist whims, were for all intent and purposes a train of sled dogs obediently pulling Trump along his trail of misdeeds and crimes against the people.

And let's not forget those 70+ million fans of his cheering him on despite the spectacular wreckage he was leaving behind him.

I can't recall the number of times that Pence stood in front of the media and proclaimed with flowery prose how Trump was such a great man doing so many great things "for the nation" and how disgusted I was to have witnessed those moments of wretch worthy suck-assery.

For that and the fact that his religious beliefs counted for jack-shit toward his behavior in office, I give him nothing because he gave the nation nothing of value when he could have.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

For that and the fact that his religious beliefs counted for jack-shit toward his behavior in office, I give him nothing because he gave the nation nothing of value when he could have.

Don't see what's inconsistent in his shitbag evangelical Christian religious belief vs the fascism he brought to this nation.

 

[MAW1082]

It's not that surprising to see what we all already knew was probably going on behind the scenes.

It's surprising that we have so much video of individual interviews with the inner circles confirming that. I'm not a lawyer but it's convincing to me.

It's obvious that if Pence was the ahole Trump wanted, this really might have gone down.

The best is yet to come. The Supreme Court member ... ...

 

[sportage]

Remember what Pence has said. And this was after the insurrection. Pence said that he was proud of what they (Trump and Mike) had accomplished during their four years. And Pence has never said he would not vote for Trump in 2024. Don't feel sorry for Mike Pence, never fell sorry for a slimy worm.

 

[HomerJS]

Media making a big mistake treating Pence like some kind of hero. The first page of this thread is how Pence should be looked at and treated.

It's the same reason I don't give this country credit because they no longer attack black people with dogs and firehoses.

 

[cytg111]

Well, I understand the strategy, to give non-maga conservatives a way out. Fuel the internal struggle. Burn it from within.

 

[Pens1566]

Great necro ...

Anyway, I wish someone would call me a hero for just doing the bare minimum of what it is my job entails.

 

[Commodus]

Something that struck me in the hearings: at one point, Pence was just 40 feet from the rioters calling for his death. Can you imagine if they'd gotten ahold of him?

I wouldn't be surprised if many of the chants were just bluster, and I know I'm speculating. But it's reasonable to say this would've been a very different story if insurrectionists had even held Pence captive, let alone taken his life. And Trump would've been in very hot water (even for someone who frequently gets away with lawbreaking), particularly if he kept up the anti-Pence rhetoric while his VP was in the hands of extremists.

 

[cytg111]

Something that struck me in the hearings: at one point, Pence was just 40 feet from the rioters calling for his death. Can you imagine if they'd gotten ahold of him?

I wouldn't be surprised if many of the chants were just bluster, and I know I'm speculating. But it's reasonable to say this would've been a very different story if insurrectionists had even held Pence captive, let alone taken his life. And Trump would've been in very hot water (even for someone who frequently gets away with lawbreaking), particularly if he kept up the anti-Pence rhetoric while his VP was in the hands of extremists.

The blustering crowd was a cover for those with very specific missions that day. Some of that planning has come up in the hearings...

 

[K1052]

Thinking long and hard about doing a coup before eventually deciding not to is not praiseworthy. Yes Mike, thanks for not flushing the republic down the toilet and potentially igniting a civil war/secession for another man's insane ambition. Kudos to you.

 

[Commodus]

The blustering crowd was a cover for those with very specific missions that day. Some of that planning has come up in the hearings...

I was thinking about that. If it was Jane and Joe MAGA Rioter who found Pence, they might not have done much more than yell at Pence and soil themselves when the rescue team came in with guns drawn. But if it was the Proud Boys or anyone else who came prepared to do serious harm, that's another story.

 

[cytg111]

At the end of the day, did Pence do something praise worthy? Really only can tell if you knows his mind… did he conquer his own fear, went against his own interest, did he do what he did out of principle well knowing his days in politics be numbered?
From what I know of Pence he is a tool but I dont feel I can judge him on this.
Its like running into battle. Its only courageous if you’re afraid to die.

 

[Number1]

At the end of the day, did Pence do something praise worthy? Really only can tell if you knows his mind… did he conquer his own fear, went against his own interest, did he do what he did out of principle well knowing his days in politics be numbered?
From what I know of Pence he is a tool but I dont feel I can judge him on this.
Its like running into battle. Its only courageous if you’re afraid to die.

He said he would do the right thing and he did even after a mob tried to kill him. How can you not respect that?
Ultimatly we can only hope that he did not just postponed the inevitable.

 

[cytg111]

He said he would do the right thing and he did even after a mob tried to kill him. How can you not respect that?
Ultimatly we can only hope that he did not just postponed the inevitable.

Maybe he was playing chess till the last moment and finally deciding that nah, they’re not gonna get away with it and played the winning side. I dont know.