Thank You Mike Pence

[Number1]

Pence is no saint.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1537761680842792966

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Media making a big mistake treating Pence like some kind of hero. The first page of this thread is how Pence should be looked at and treated.

It's the same reason I don't give this country credit because they no longer attack black people with dogs and firehoses.

I agree Pence is a weak leader and does not have ideas I support.
We do need to acknowledge the time when Pence decided to grow some balls and not be a Cuck.
Chris Rocks summary from my earlier post is still accurate however we need to give credit to Pence because ultimately he did the right thing.

 

[Commodus]

Maybe he was playing chess till the last moment and finally deciding that nah, they’re not gonna get away with it and played the winning side. I dont know.

I see the answer as relatively boring: Pence was (and to a degree, still is) all-in on Trump, but he wasn't going to break the law in such an obvious and egregious way. It doesn't make him good or command any significant respect; it just means he had logic and survival skills Trump doesn't.

 

[trenchfoot]

I'm leaning toward the idea that it wasn't that Pence wanted to do the right thing for moral or ethical reasons, he did the right thing when he thought about his legacy and how he would have been branded as the treasonous man of whom was the deciding factor that caused the collapse of our democracy, a notoriety far worse than what Trump and his secessionists would have been accused of as Trump would, of course, claim that Pence did it all of his own volition in the attempt at saving his own ass by rewriting history in his favor.

 

[HomerJS]

I agree Pence is a weak leader and does not have ideas I support.
We do need to acknowledge the time when Pence decided to grow some balls and not be a Cuck.
Chris Rocks summary from my earlier post is still accurate however we need to give credit to Pence because ultimately he did the right thing.

Based on post #76 he did the right thing after exhausting all other options.

Did you notice in yesterday's hearing how many of Pence's staff used the word "steely" to describe him? There's an attempt to lionize this guy.

 

[fskimospy]

Pence probably did it for multiple different reasons but really what those reasons are don't matter to me. He did the right thing under enormous pressure and he maybe saved the Republic.

So whatever else I think about him he's always got that big positive mark in my book, no matter what his reasons were.

 

[trenchfoot]

Pence probably did it for multiple different reasons but really what those reasons are don't matter to me. He did the right thing under enormous pressure and he maybe saved the Republic.

So whatever else I think about him he's always got that big positive mark in my book, no matter what his reasons were.

Makes me wonder what if he had gone the other way and succumbed to the pressure Trump was putting him under. It seems that a wholly different version of America would have occurred at that instant.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

The blustering crowd was a cover for those with very specific missions that day. Some of that planning has come up in the hearings...

Giving the bully the 'i was just joking' excuse for them.

 

[nakedfrog]

Pence probably did it for multiple different reasons but really what those reasons are don't matter to me. He did the right thing under enormous pressure and he maybe saved the Republic.

So whatever else I think about him he's always got that big positive mark in my book, no matter what his reasons were.

"Saved" vs "Didn't deliver the killing blow", kind of a fine line, I guess, I haven't really pondered what I think about it that deeply.

 

[brycejones]

"Saved" vs "Didn't deliver the killing blow", kind of a fine line, I guess, I haven't really pondered what I think about it that deeply.

Pence pretty clearly chose country over party. I still hate him for pretty much everything else he believes in but we do need to give credit where it is due. Especially in today's environment where it is so rare.

 

[hal2kilo]

He said he would do the right thing and he did even after a mob tried to kill him. How can you not respect that?
Ultimatly we can only hope that he did not just postponed the inevitable.

Yet, he still remains silent about how he feels about Trump.

 

[nakedfrog]

Pence pretty clearly chose country over party. I still hate him for pretty much everything else he believes in but we do need to give credit where it is due. Especially in today's environment where it is so rare.

I'm not disputing that, just pondering whether that counts as "saving the country".

 

[pmv]

Pence pretty clearly chose country over party. I still hate him for pretty much everything else he believes in but we do need to give credit where it is due. Especially in today's environment where it is so rare.

Maybe not 'country' so much as 'a quiet life' or even 'self-preservation'. He didn't have the ideological-certainty to risk a coup and potential consequent civil war. Probably as with Trump's approach to foreign policy, his cowardice is his one good quality.

 

[nickqt]

Pence pretty clearly chose country over party. I still hate him for pretty much everything else he believes in but we do need to give credit where it is due. Especially in today's environment where it is so rare.

Christ, if not committing treason is the low bar for Republicans to be considered decent, screw Pence, let's thank Dan-fucking-Quayle for telling Pence that treason isn't good.

Dan Quayle, the last decent Republican. May God help us all.

 

[nakedfrog]

Christ, if not committing treason is the low bar for Republicans to be considered decent, screw Pence, let's thank Dan-fucking-Quayle for telling Pence that treason isn't good.

Dan Quayle, the last decent Republican. May God help us all.

Yes, let's be glad Mr. Quayle had what it takes to look the potatoe of injustice in the eye and firmly say "Incorrect."

 

[brycejones]

Christ, if not committing treason is the low bar for Republicans to be considered decent, screw Pence, let's thank Dan-fucking-Quayle for telling Pence that treason isn't good.

Dan Quayle, the last decent Republican. May God help us all.

Where did I say he was decent?

 

[JTsyo]

Something that struck me in the hearings: at one point, Pence was just 40 feet from the rioters calling for his death. Can you imagine if they'd gotten ahold of him?

I wouldn't be surprised if many of the chants were just bluster, and I know I'm speculating. But it's reasonable to say this would've been a very different story if insurrectionists had even held Pence captive, let alone taken his life. And Trump would've been in very hot water (even for someone who frequently gets away with lawbreaking), particularly if he kept up the anti-Pence rhetoric while his VP was in the hands of extremists.

Wouldn't have happened. SS would have shot anyone that tried. Rest would have backed down same as when the lady got shot trying to go through the barricade. While the crowd was charged up, they weren't going to run into gunfire to get Pence. The whole insurrection was ill conceived. They had no path to victory. The military had already said it wasn't going to get involved.

 

[MAW1082]

Thank you for all the very thoughtful discourse.

It's clear now that it wasn't just Mike Pence, but rather a group of 'Patriots.' They are all worthy of commendation, regardless of their future voting.

 

[MtnMan]

He said he would do the right thing and he did even after a mob tried to kill him. How can you not respect that?
Ultimatly we can only hope that he did not just postponed the inevitable.

Perhaps Jeffery Dahmer helped a little old lady change a flat tire one time... would that cause him to earn your respect?

Pence spent 4 years sucking Trumps dick, made one decision he felt would keep him out of prison, and still maintains that Trump has a mighty fine dick, and he enjoyed sucking it.

 

[trenchfoot]

I'm pretty sure Pence is still of the mind that he has a chance to take over his former boss' job and will do/say anything to make that happen. This is to me his one desire that controls all of his other political instincts. It's why he was and still is more than willing to play up to and appease anyone who he thinks can help him attain that goal. His decision to be the "Savior of Democracy" had everything to do with salvaging what was left of his political career as much as how he had no other viable alternative to turn to when it came down to simply doing the job he was required to do as a ceremonial figurehead in the process of the orderly transference of power.

It's Politics 101 that dictates how he behaves himself and although at the moment he appears weak and incompetent, the moment the winds shift in his favor (though highly unlikely) he'll miraculously transform over to the strongman role as easily as he'd been playing the role of an indentured serf to Trump's desire to lord all over his ass.

 

[woolfe9998]

Well... It's good that he did not join Trump's coup attempt. But that's about all I can say for him.

Mike Pence says no president in his lifetime has lied as often as Joe Biden.

Video: Mike Pence said no president has lied as much as Biden. Huh? - CNN Video

During a recent interview, former Vice President Mike Pence said no president during his lifetime has lied as often as Joe Biden. In today's episode of The Point, CNN's Chris Cillizza explains how Donald Trump lied waaaaaay more.

www.cnn.com

Hello? Anyone home up there in the cranium? The man is utterly delusional.

 

[K1052]

Do not congratulate.

 

[fskimospy]

Well... It's good that he did not join Trump's coup attempt. But that's about all I can say for him.

Mike Pence says no president in his lifetime has lied as often as Joe Biden.

Video: Mike Pence said no president has lied as much as Biden. Huh? - CNN Video

During a recent interview, former Vice President Mike Pence said no president during his lifetime has lied as often as Joe Biden. In today's episode of The Point, CNN's Chris Cillizza explains how Donald Trump lied waaaaaay more.

www.cnn.com

Hello? Anyone home up there in the cranium? The man is utterly delusional.

I am impressed that he can say a lie of that magnitude and not even blink an eye.

 

[Bitek]

Well... It's good that he did not join Trump's coup attempt. But that's about all I can say for him.

Mike Pence says no president in his lifetime has lied as often as Joe Biden.

Video: Mike Pence said no president has lied as much as Biden. Huh? - CNN Video

During a recent interview, former Vice President Mike Pence said no president during his lifetime has lied as often as Joe Biden. In today's episode of The Point, CNN's Chris Cillizza explains how Donald Trump lied waaaaaay more.

www.cnn.com

Hello? Anyone home up there in the cranium? The man is utterly delusional.

For being such a religious prude, I've never seen a man so happy to suck another man's A.
Beta to the max.

 

[hal2kilo]

I am impressed that he can say a lie of that magnitude and not even blink an eye.

I don't remember the Ken doll having much expression either.