WelshBloke
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You could buy a lot of books for $479.
Totally missing the point.. and the direction that we're going.
What point?
That schools should be about educating children not getting them hooked on the latest shiny gadgets.
That it may be more work to get them to read books than to stare at a screen thats covered with brightly coloured cartoon characters but it will do the kids attention spans the world of good?
Etc
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ad nauseum
/oldgeezer
The world that these kids will be going into demands IT skills and proficiency. IT is also a great tool for kids to learn the basics. Researching problems, finding useful information, thinking critically are all skills that students need to learn... and IT is the best tool for these things that bridges many of the differences in the ways kids learn.
It's not about getting them hooked on shiny gadgets, it's about teaching them the things they need to learn with the best tools available.
A really well equipped library and the skills to use it would do them better but it looks like a lot of the education budgets are going to be spent on shiny crap that will be obsolete in a few years.
The bolded part tells me right there that you have absolutely zero experience in the education environment and, as such, don't know what you're talking about.
OK, so no one learnt anything before iPads were invented?
Sure they did, but they can learn and understand things better with IT. Not just the iPad.
Is there any evidence to actually show that increased classroom IT leads to better educated pupils?
And I'm not arguing against all IT. Good school libraries should have decent computer labs, but if you keep chucking shiny gadgets at children they are going to miss out on a lot. Education shouldn't be easy, the whole point of it is to stretch their abilities.
looks like the OP hasn't dealt with some angels of IT like Oracle, IBM, Sun and others
Buy refurbs for $419, full warranty, they're perfect.
Yes, they are. Just go to the online store and buy them. I'm a teacher and our IT people bought quite a few iPad refurbs for the school, I even bought one myself for personal use. Just call Apple and talk with them, they'll hook you up.Not available to K12 districts.
Education apps.
You could buy a lot of books for $479.
Yes, they are. Just go to the online store and buy them. I'm a teacher and our IT people bought quite a few iPad refurbs for the school, I even bought one myself for personal use. Just call Apple and talk with them, they'll hook you up.
This is complete and utter bullshit. I have been in IT for 30 years and I cringe every time I see a 2 year old holding an ipad. Not because its a douchey apple product but because kids are stupid today. Really, kids today aged 10-21 are stupid fucking morons compared to kids that grew up WITHOUT tech. Sure, pull some stats out of your ass that says kids today are smarter because they are passing more tests to day than they were in the 70s and I will say we didnt cheat as much in the 70s like kids are doing today. Phones, watches all sorts of gadgets kids use to cheat today. PLUS, IMO, the testing/learning curve is so fucking easy today. Really, I see the tests and the homework my sons gets as a senior in HS and its literally thet shit I learned in middleschool or evan earlier.Sure they did, but they can learn and understand things better with IT. Not just the iPad.
We're moving toward 1-to-1 computing, where each student has a computing device that they can use both in and out of school.
You could buy a lot of books for $479.
LULZ at the mentions in thread of Libraries and text books being better for learning, really? Sounds like one of my 7th grade teachers who said I wasn't very smart because I used Compuserve to look up facts for my reports instead of using an encyclopedia and the library like a smart kid would. These "smart kids" would spend way more hours browsing for books. Where I was online and done in 1/3rd the time if not less.
Why not $450, $425, or $400? Why won't Apple let other retailers sell in quantity to my (or any other) K12 district so I can get the best price?
They're certainly taking advantage of their market position.
As much as I love the tech of the iPad, I see no apparent improvement it can bring to schools over current computer systems... and those can be obtained for far cheaper.
And even if the iPad does make an impact, I have to wonder how only 14 iPads would help...
On a side note, unless it had to be iPad 2, you could have asked for refurbished iPad 1 units, which would have been a lot cheaper.
iPads are perfect for a ton of things, and cheaper than a traditional dumb terminal.
In my setting even the square feet used by COW's is a savings.