Thanks for mentioning DPS Nutrition, and all the talk about whey protein too.

[DAPUNISHER]

I haven't used anything since I was a punk kid in H.S. trying to bulk up, man did I wait too long. All the talk here in H&F about whey protein made me decide to pull the trigger, I first bought some isopure on sale@GNC around a month ago. Be it psychosomatic/placebo or really effective, my runs, and finishing kick improved noticeably the last couple weeks, as has my recovery time after doing anything from run, weights, heavy bag. I just feel like I can get back at something faster now, which @41 was starting to be an extended process compared to say, just 5yrs ago.

Then I saw some list DPS in the where do you get yours' thread, and decided to give them a go. Order shipped same day, and shipping was less than $6 for 2 5lbs EAS, a bottle of flaxseed caps, and a bottle of 3-6-9 about a 12lbs box. /testimonials

Now, quick questions, will I lean down if I supplement shakes for meals 2 times a day? Depending on the calculator I use online I get different results for how many calories I need to maintain for 6'5" 235lbs. What is a good target for my stats? and will all these relatively low calorie protein shakes help me change my BMR to get rid of some of this fat/adipose tissue/whatever it is I have? I'm active, run 3 days a week, lift 3 days a week now, instead of 2, throw in a surf session or heavy bag a day or 2 a week. Disc golf I don't count as it is strictly a calorie burner, no real muscle or cardio workout involved. I just want to improve my muscular definition particularly in the mid-section. Thanks for any help, links to advice I missed here will work too,

 

[Safeway]

I get everything from DPS Nutrition. They accidentally doubled my order once, but when I called them, they said keep it.

I got to keep:
2x ON Whey
1x Creatine Mono
2x Flax Seed Oil Bottles
1x Shaker

 

[purbeast0]

yah it was funny i placed an order at DPS nutrition last friday and it shipped and was ready for delivery the following monday.

however i was bone dry on protein.

so i went to GNC to get some to hold mem over for the weekend.

i forget the exact size of the protein i got, but it was the tiniest designer whey they have. it's like probably 10 protein shakes total (2 scoops each). it was $12.99 in the store.

i got my 2Lb tubs at DPS for $13.99.

online is definitely the way to go, and DPS gets my business from now on.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Safeway
I get everything from DPS Nutrition. They accidentally doubled my order once, but when I called them, they said keep it.

I got to keep:
2x ON Whey
1x Creatine Mono
2x Flax Seed Oil Bottles
1x Shaker

First, props for being a honest person and attempting to do the right thing. :beer: and also, that was very cool of them to reward you for it. Good karma *if you buy into that kind of thing* all around on that one.

Any help on the calories and using the shakes to get a little cut? I've never tried to cut before, didn't need to most my life, bulking was always the issue, and I'm not sure if I will have to go the serious weights route or can do what I do and just incorporate the shakes as meal replacements to eliminate more carbs and calories to get some better definition.

 

[maluckey]

Now, quick questions, will I lean down if I supplement shakes for meals 2 times a day? Depending on the calculator I use online I get different results for how many calories I need to maintain for 6'5" 235lbs. What is a good target for my stats? and will all these relatively low calorie protein shakes help me change my BMR to get rid of some of this fat/adipose tissue/whatever it is I have? I'm active, run 3 days a week, lift 3 days a week now, instead of 2, throw in a surf session or heavy bag a day or 2 a week. Disc golf I don't count as it is strictly a calorie burner, no real muscle or cardio workout involved. I just want to improve my muscular definition particularly in the mid-section. Thanks for any help, links to advice I missed here will work too,

Obviously without knowing you, I would say that if you eat reasonably three times per day and use the protein as a suppliment (a zero fat one) to your protein intake to suipport the activities, then you should start to see results in a couple weeks without having to skip meals. If not, you could up the intensity a bit in your workouts or tweak the calories in your meals.

I wouldn't plan a long term (more than a month) diet around skipping meals. You normally end up losing out something, somewhere along the line, not to mention the willpower required is tough on the mindset.

 

[Safeway]

Mix it with water or skim milk. I use skim milk. I usually add creatine and some flax oil to my shakes, too.

As for calories and using the shakes to cut: you have to eat really clean foods! Complex, unrefined carbohydrates. Vegetables. The shakes are good since they bump your protein intake with minimal calories.

 

[alexeikgb]

I only shop ant DPS.... i have at least 10 of their free t-shirts ... just put another order in this week....

 

[TallBill]

They have better t-shirts then bodybuilding.com as well. The BB.com XXL's are funky.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Thanks for the quick responses, I'm all over the clean living part. I cooked professionally bitd and love to be in the kitchen. egg white omletes, grilled chicken breast, and lean red meats and lean cuts of pork, fresh fish and seafood *live by the coast in Fl.* plenty of fresh fruits and veggies, whole grain breads and pastas. I like the barilla plus pasta, not the best tasting by far, but made with egg whites, chickpeas, whole grains, so much better for protein, fiber, and omegas than regular dried pasta. No soda, no juice except OJ or low sodium V8, like low-fat soy and water, and have really been great about not eating the pies, cakes, cookies, candy everywhere this last holiday season. Not easy with professional bakers in the family! Take 3-6-9 and Flax, megadose C, drinking the whey now, and have looked at starting a multivitamin even though I get plenty of most from my diet. Never smoked, only a 1-2 day a week drinker- mostly red wine, but some vodka and good brews too, and have stayed active my whole life.

I have only been using weight training to keep a strong foundation for all my activities most my adult life, but I can up it if need be. Haven't been MTBing lately, so they can get more attention. I have an olympic style curl bar I use, do flat bench, overhead press, lat pulls, dips, incline sit-ups, I do one with the curl bar that I don't know what to call, it is sort of a close grip upright row but without the legs? I can add weights to the dips too, don't use any but I can do 4-6 sets of 15-20 which I know is way too many for increasing strength. BTW, do they make a belt for the weights you add when doing dips or what? Need to google that. That is about it for the weight stuff, surfing, heavy bag, running,,<----only been running since december '06, and MTBing have been the lion's share of the other resistance and cardio I have done for a good number of years now.

Man, I'm turning this into a bio plus needy bastage session, my apologies. Just call me Chatty Cathy.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
BTW, do they make a belt for the weights you add when doing dips or what? Need to google that.

My favorite.
More options from good companies:
One
Two

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
BTW, do they make a belt for the weights you add when doing dips or what? Need to google that.

My favorite.
More options from good companies:
One
Two

Excellent, thanks. I think I am going to order this one when it is back in stock. It looks fairly comfortable, durable, and isn't too pricey after S&H.

 

[RagingBITCH]

DAPNUISHER - I'd recommend a calorie calculator online to see how much you're burning, as an estimate/approximation. Replacing two of your meals with just protein shakes seems like you'd be cutting down your calorie intake too much, especially at 6'5", 235. I'd imagine you'd need somewhere in the 3000 range as an estimate to maintain/keep current. Two scoops + 16oz of milk is barely 500 calories.

As was stated in other threads, weight loss is all about calories burned > calorie intake. Take an average of all the calculators you've used and use that as a baseline for maintenance, then try to consume about 500-700 calories less than that daily. (Make sure you're eating 5-7 smaller meals to boost your metabolism instead of the 3 normal mega meals)

Good luck in your weight loss endeavor. I lost 25lbs last year, but never really noticed the weight change. (Everyone else did though) I guess I didn't notice because I was working out religiously, both cardio and weights, and despite a 25lb weight loss, was lifting more than I ever have. Right now I'm trying to gain back some of that weight, in a healthy manner anyway.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Thanks brudda, I appreciate the help. Now, when I use some calculators I come up with approx. the 3000-3200 calories estimate you make. But being 41 and I guess based on having a slower metabolism, I've found at least 3 that indicate I only need 2200-2300 calories. Seems really low to me. And I double the shakes servings, otherwise I feel hungry too soon.

Also, I don't want to lose weight, just lower my body fat percentage and be leaner at approx my present weight, if possible. My problem is my lower torso area, got a little love handle action, even when I tense up I can still pinch fat there, and I definitely have more fat over the abdominals then I am happy with even if it can't be pinched when flexed. I am in good shape, but would like to loose the proverbial fat belt.