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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Czar
bush cut funding to alternative fuel research???

Read what I said. Reagan came into office and completely gutted the alternative energy initiatives championed by President Carter. Bush I, being a complete whore for the oil industry for decades, continued on this path. Bush II, along with Cheney and his top secret meetings with energy industry officials who dictated U.S. energy policy (I wonder why Cheney was do adamant about hiding the facts behidn THOSE meetings) followed in the very same direction.

Now we have the USA bogged down in an unnecessary war in a nation that owns the world's second or third largest oil reserves while energy prices skyrocket. Add to that Enron's fleecing of the West Coast energy markets in 2001 and 2002. Add to that the wholesale giveaway of America's forests to the logging industry and what picture do you get?

I get a progression of Republican administrations completely controlled by short sighted corporate interests that they don't give a damn about energy costs, the environment, or Americans other that a very few of their friends who sit on those corporate boards.

When Bush successfully overthrew the U.S. government, gas prices were around $1 per gallon. They're $3 per gallon now AFTER Bush's unnecessary, unprovoked attack against Iraq.

Does that make sense to you? It doesn't make sense to me. Unless you realize that the energy industry, in collusion with the Bush administration, is fleecing America for every cent they can get. Just like they did on the West Coast back in 2001-2002 when they got the green light from their lackies in the Bush White House.
Reagan and Bush 1 cut funding? What about the Alternative Motor Fuels Act of 1988, which was implemented by Reagan and VP Bush? How about the Energy Policy Act of 1992?

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/about.html

and btw, correlation!=causation. The war on Iraq has very little to do with the price of oil, particularly since the output from Iraq is very nearly up to pre-war levels.

But please do keep squawking ignorantly. I love seeing you make a complete fool of yourself and rant about things you are absolutely clueless about in your blind partisan rage to blame every ill in the world on Bush, the neocons, or the Republicans.

 

BBond

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Doesn't anyone remember the Republican attacks on fuel efficiency standards? The Republican attacks against global warming legislation caused by burning fossil fuels?
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: Train
The govt funding for alternative fuels was a joke. You honestly think we would have less dependence within 4 years? LOL

The funding wasn't accomplishing anything. The Private energy companies are way ahead of it anyways. BP, Sunoco, Marathon, Shell, etc, are all years ahead of any govt funded energy development. Privately funded research beats out govt funded research, SHOCKER!

And I thought Bush was unable to control his spending? I hear that all the time, yet then again I hear complaints about the funding he's cut quite often. Go figure.

You know . . . why do you people bother posting without reading the prior posts?!

Carter set a national energy plan. Granted, issues like CAFE have met resistance in Democratic and Republican Congresses alike. Reagan abandoned it. Bush41 ignored it. Clinton tinkered around the edges. Bush43 made Mickey Mouse plans, invaded one oil exporter (Iraq), tacitly supported a coup in another (Venezula), while making empty threats to a third (Iran).

Bush is NOT responsible for our high gasoline prices, but neither current nor planned policies will help.

Admittedly, when I pumped my $2.89/gal 93 this morning it made me smile. I certainly feel sorry for people without means, but I fully anticipate Bush (and Republicans) will take the fall for high gas prices. Regardless, if it takes $4/gal gas to get people to drive less, drive slower, stop buying BS vehicles, and vote out energy hogs/sluts in Congress . . . I will pay at the pump with glee.
 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Czar
bush cut funding to alternative fuel research???

Read what I said. Reagan came into office and completely gutted the alternative energy initiatives championed by President Carter. Bush I, being a complete whore for the oil industry for decades, continued on this path. Bush II, along with Cheney and his top secret meetings with energy industry officials who dictated U.S. energy policy (I wonder why Cheney was do adamant about hiding the facts behidn THOSE meetings) followed in the very same direction.

Now we have the USA bogged down in an unnecessary war in a nation that owns the world's second or third largest oil reserves while energy prices skyrocket. Add to that Enron's fleecing of the West Coast energy markets in 2001 and 2002. Add to that the wholesale giveaway of America's forests to the logging industry and what picture do you get?

I get a progression of Republican administrations completely controlled by short sighted corporate interests that they don't give a damn about energy costs, the environment, or Americans other that a very few of their friends who sit on those corporate boards.

When Bush successfully overthrew the U.S. government, gas prices were around $1 per gallon. They're $3 per gallon now AFTER Bush's unnecessary, unprovoked attack against Iraq.

Does that make sense to you? It doesn't make sense to me. Unless you realize that the energy industry, in collusion with the Bush administration, is fleecing America for every cent they can get. Just like they did on the West Coast back in 2001-2002 when they got the green light from their lackies in the Bush White House.
Reagan and Bush 1 cut funding? What about the Alternative Motor Fuels Act of 1988, which was implemented by Reagan and VP Bush? How about the Energy Policy Act of 1992?

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/about.html

and btw, correlation!=causation. The war on Iraq has very little to do with the price of oil, particularly since the output from Iraq is very nearly up to pre-war levels.

But please do keep squawking ignorantly. I love seeing you make a complete fool of yourself and rant about things you are absolutely clueless about in your blind partisan rage to blame every ill in the world on Bush, the neocons, or the Republicans.


I didn't know we this was about Bush1 and Reagan, but I guess it's GWB's Dad so it had something to do with it in your mind.

Don't even try and skirt the issue that GWB is now and probably will always be the worst environmental president, that is pretty much a known fact.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Reagan and Bush 1 cut funding? What about the Alternative Motor Fuels Act of 1988, which was implemented by Reagan and VP Bush? How about the Energy Policy Act of 1992?

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/about.html

and btw, correlation!=causation. The war on Iraq has very little to do with the price of oil, particularly since the output from Iraq is very nearly up to pre-war levels.

But please do keep squawking ignorantly. I love seeing you make a complete fool of yourself and rant about things you are absolutely clueless about in your blind partisan rage to blame every ill in the world on Bush, the neocons, or the Republicans.
You'd think that with all of those Republican inspired energy programs we'd be in better shape than we are now.

:roll:

If they weren't all just lip service, maybe we would be.

And Iraq up to pre-war levels of oil production???

You have GOT to be kidding. Thanks to Bush's criminally negligent planning the U.S. can't even secure Iraq's pipelines after over two years of occupation.

Iraq Pipeline Watch


 

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Wow, the trolls are out in force this morning.

Don't we have a gas thread. Don't we have a couple Bush Environment threads? Aren't there dozens of threads dedicated to the latest anti-Bush talking points?

Yeah, the trolls like yourself are out in force, you're right.
 

Genx87

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lmao the OP simply cant take the heat.

I dare him to PM me like a man, not send insults and then put me on ignore lmao

 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: Genx87
lmao the OP simply cant take the heat.

I dare him to PM me like a man, not send insults and then put me on ignore lmao


What heat??? Let me know when you have something productive that you think is considered "heat".

Looks like I hit a nerve with someone....
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Czar
bush cut funding to alternative fuel research???

Read what I said. Reagan came into office and completely gutted the alternative energy initiatives championed by President Carter. Bush I, being a complete whore for the oil industry for decades, continued on this path. Bush II, along with Cheney and his top secret meetings with energy industry officials who dictated U.S. energy policy (I wonder why Cheney was do adamant about hiding the facts behidn THOSE meetings) followed in the very same direction.

Now we have the USA bogged down in an unnecessary war in a nation that owns the world's second or third largest oil reserves while energy prices skyrocket. Add to that Enron's fleecing of the West Coast energy markets in 2001 and 2002. Add to that the wholesale giveaway of America's forests to the logging industry and what picture do you get?

I get a progression of Republican administrations completely controlled by short sighted corporate interests that they don't give a damn about energy costs, the environment, or Americans other that a very few of their friends who sit on those corporate boards.

When Bush successfully overthrew the U.S. government, gas prices were around $1 per gallon. They're $3 per gallon now AFTER Bush's unnecessary, unprovoked attack against Iraq.

Does that make sense to you? It doesn't make sense to me. Unless you realize that the energy industry, in collusion with the Bush administration, is fleecing America for every cent they can get. Just like they did on the West Coast back in 2001-2002 when they got the green light from their lackies in the Bush White House.
Reagan and Bush 1 cut funding? What about the Alternative Motor Fuels Act of 1988, which was implemented by Reagan and VP Bush? How about the Energy Policy Act of 1992?

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/about.html

and btw, correlation!=causation. The war on Iraq has very little to do with the price of oil, particularly since the output from Iraq is very nearly up to pre-war levels.

But please do keep squawking ignorantly. I love seeing you make a complete fool of yourself and rant about things you are absolutely clueless about in your blind partisan rage to blame every ill in the world on Bush, the neocons, or the Republicans.


I didn't know we this was about Bush1 and Reagan, but I guess it's GWB's Dad so it had something to do with it in your mind.
BBond brought it up in his fervent desire to skewer anything Republican or Bush related, facts be damned.

Don't even try and skirt the issue that GWB is now and probably will always be the worst environmental president, that is pretty much a known fact.
And he eats babies for breakfast, the bastidge!
 

Genx87

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Well I am all for PMing. But sending me a PM calling me a Butt Muncher then putting me on the ignore list is not only childish but cowardice.

Grow up.
 

BBond

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Facts be damned, huh???

Bush's Energy Disaster

By Joshuah Bearman, LA Weekly. Posted August 11, 2005.

The long-delayed energy bill signed into law last week will wreak havoc on the planet while padding the pockets of the oil industry.

As the Senate cast its votes on the energy bill last Friday, giving Republicans a little legislative victory before everyone skipped town for the summer, Bush issued a congratulatory statement. "I applaud Congress," he said, "for a bill that will help secure our energy future and reduce our dependence on foreign sources of energy." A nice sentiment -- except that "securing our energy future" is the one thing the bill won't do.

Then again, that was never the intention. This was Bush's baby from the start, the fruition of Cheney's infamous task force, to which he invited every industry honcho he could find to write their own tickets right into the country's energy policy. After that, of course, it was larded with extra tax breaks and subsidies, like $500 million in deep-water drilling that will likely wind up in Tom DeLay's hometown, Sugar Land, and billions more that will drain straight into industry coffers.

This at a time when high oil prices are sending industry margins soaring: Exxon-Mobil's third quarter last year was the most profitable corporate earnings in history. Boone Pickens, head of BP Capital Management, a billion-dollar hedge fund that makes people wealthy trading energy futures and related investments, sums up the high times like so: "I've never had so much fun in my life."

But the giveaways are the least of the bill's problems. When both sides claim victory, it's a sure sign of mediocre legislation. Republicans got to line some pockets and call it economic progress. Democrats were able to shelve (for now) a few hot-button issues like the MTBE indemnity and drilling in ANWR. (And when barely derailing a raid on ANWR is considered a Democratic victory, it only shows how much the Republicans have been able to set the agenda.) Likewise, Republicans were able to take out the fuel-efficiency standards and global-warming language that so offended them. In the end, the energy bill was a hodgepodge, a collection of provisions with no vision.

The problem is we need vision with energy most of all. Because there will come a day, sometime fairly soon, when a barrel of light, sweet crude will emerge from some oil field and the world will have officially burned more oil than what's left in the ground. That moment -- peak oil, it's called -- is not a question of if but when: Some say the tap-out starts out in 30 years; Exxon-Mobil's own recently published estimate says five; one Princeton geologist says maybe next year. When it does happen, it may not be celebrated, or even noticed right away, but it will mark the beginning of the long slide to an inevitable reconfiguration of, well, civilization as we know it.

If that sounds alarmist, recall that our vast economy of just-in-time, transnationally shipped inventory is fueled entirely by petroleum. As is our food supply, whose end products like poultry and beef are elaborate (and remarkably inefficient) conversions of petroleum energy into food calories. The widespread use of petrochemical fertilizers to grow feed for livestock has turned agriculture into one of the biggest sources of oil demand after transportation. It's a demand that's skyrocketing worldwide: With current measures, experts predict global oil consumption will rise 57 percent by 2025 -- just in time for that coming peak. If small supply shocks like OPEC's embargoes in the '70s can create recessions, what would happen in the face of significant, persistent, growing shortages?

A Greater Depression, or even chaos, is the answer, as was discovered in late June at a war game called "Oil Shockwave." The participants, including many former Republican administration members, spent several days running through various scenarios of disrupted oil supply. Even with small-scale trouble, the exercises quickly spun out of control. "The American people," concluded former CIA Director Robert M. Gates, "are going to pay a terrible price for not having an energy strategy."

James Woolsey, another former CIA director present at "Oil Shockwave," was equally troubled. Woolsey, friend to Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld and Douglas Feith, and member of the bona fide neocon Defense Policy Board, has become an alternative-energy buff in the interest of national security. A few weeks later, Woolsey presented a paper along with George Schultz, Reagan's secretary of state, to the Committee on Present Danger about how our oil dependency makes the country extremely vulnerable. They argued that national security requires a radical change in energy policy, starting with fuel-efficiency standards. Woolsey and Schultz also dared to draw the less-talked-about blood/oil connection: that the spread of the Wahhabi ideology and a lot of terrorist planning has been funded by petrodollars.

If energy conservation, then, is a first line of national defense, why do so many jackasses drive their SUVs around with American flags all over them? More importantly, why did the country get an energy bill that, according to the administration's own Energy Information Administration (EIA), will actually raise gas prices and increase oil demand nearly 14 percent in just the next six years?

To be fair, the bill did include many new incentives for renewable energy. And although many on the Left don't like it, the bill's jump-start for nuclear power -- much safer today with new technology -- has some mixed promise. But that's not broad enough thinking. We need what Woolsey and Schultz describe: a focused effort in funding and research that turns the energy equation upside down.

Instead, we're getting $10 billion more "missile defense." And an even costlier PR junket -- I mean scientifically valuable manned mission -- to Mars. Not to mention the war in Iraq, at $200 billion and counting. Imagine how much renewable-energy development we could have gotten for all that money. Problem solved! With the kind of funding wasted by Bush in just the past five years, we could have had a Manhattan Project for energy security several times over -- and actually made a difference in national security. As Woolsey and Schultz put it, sounding like granola munchers on their way to Earth Day:

"A plug-in hybrid averaging 125 mpg, if its fuel tank contains 85 percent cellulosic ethanol, would be obtaining about 500 mpg. If it were constructed from carbon composites, the mileage could double, and, if it were a diesel and powered by biodiesel derived from waste, it would be using no oil products at all . . . What are we waiting for?"

Good question.


 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Well I am all for PMing. But sending me a PM calling me a Butt Muncher then ignoring me is childish. Infact it is cowardice.

Grow up.


OHHHH, that's the best ya got, I really feel that heat now....

I only Pm'ed you that and then ignored you cause I know your type, and I knew it would get you all knotted up and and pissy at me.....

Just because you are mad at the world for hating your beloved GWB, don't take it out on those who didn't vote for him.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Well I am all for PMing. But sending me a PM calling me a Butt Muncher then ignoring me is childish. Infact it is cowardice.

Grow up.


OHHHH, that's the best ya got, I really feel that heat now....

I only Pm'ed you that and then ignored you cause I know your type, and I knew it would get you all knotted up and and pissy at me.....

Just because you are mad at the world for hating your beloved GWB, don't take it out on those who didn't vote for him.

lmao you mean the vicious salvo I sent you thanking you for your condolence that got the response of "Butt Muncher"?

I seem to remember you were the one who initiated the PM, not me. I am always up for a good debate, but it seems you lack the resources to do it.

I suggest going back to Hardware because it is obvious you dont have the temperment to last here very long.
 

GamerExpress

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Here are some articles for ya on your beloved GW...

Not too mention the only reason prices were so low when he was running for 2nd term was an agreement from his friends in the saudi government to lower the prices during the election period.

Here this one is my favorite articles, well written and to the point.

Text
 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Well I am all for PMing. But sending me a PM calling me a Butt Muncher then ignoring me is childish. Infact it is cowardice.

Grow up.


OHHHH, that's the best ya got, I really feel that heat now....

I only Pm'ed you that and then ignored you cause I know your type, and I knew it would get you all knotted up and and pissy at me.....

Just because you are mad at the world for hating your beloved GWB, don't take it out on those who didn't vote for him.

lmao you mean the vicious salvo I sent you thanking you for your condolence that got the response of "Butt Muncher"?

I seem to remember you were the one who initiated the PM, not me. I am always up for a good debate, but it seems you lack the resources to do it.

I suggest going back to Hardware because it is obvious you dont have the temperment to last here very long.


You keep saying that I don't have the temperment to last here but yet you still prove nothing about your "wonderful" president.

What Salvo??? it was lame.

what resources do I need to keep up with your feelbe attempt to argue an argument you can never win.
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: BBond
Facts be damned, huh???

Bush's Energy Disaster

By Joshuah Bearman, LA Weekly. Posted August 11, 2005.

The long-delayed energy bill signed into law last week will wreak havoc on the planet while padding the pockets of the oil industry.

As the Senate cast its votes on the energy bill last Friday, giving Republicans a little legislative victory before everyone skipped town for the summer, Bush issued a congratulatory statement. "I applaud Congress," he said, "for a bill that will help secure our energy future and reduce our dependence on foreign sources of energy." A nice sentiment -- except that "securing our energy future" is the one thing the bill won't do.

Then again, that was never the intention. This was Bush's baby from the start, the fruition of Cheney's infamous task force, to which he invited every industry honcho he could find to write their own tickets right into the country's energy policy. After that, of course, it was larded with extra tax breaks and subsidies, like $500 million in deep-water drilling that will likely wind up in Tom DeLay's hometown, Sugar Land, and billions more that will drain straight into industry coffers.

This at a time when high oil prices are sending industry margins soaring: Exxon-Mobil's third quarter last year was the most profitable corporate earnings in history. Boone Pickens, head of BP Capital Management, a billion-dollar hedge fund that makes people wealthy trading energy futures and related investments, sums up the high times like so: "I've never had so much fun in my life."

But the giveaways are the least of the bill's problems. When both sides claim victory, it's a sure sign of mediocre legislation. Republicans got to line some pockets and call it economic progress. Democrats were able to shelve (for now) a few hot-button issues like the MTBE indemnity and drilling in ANWR. (And when barely derailing a raid on ANWR is considered a Democratic victory, it only shows how much the Republicans have been able to set the agenda.) Likewise, Republicans were able to take out the fuel-efficiency standards and global-warming language that so offended them. In the end, the energy bill was a hodgepodge, a collection of provisions with no vision.

The problem is we need vision with energy most of all. Because there will come a day, sometime fairly soon, when a barrel of light, sweet crude will emerge from some oil field and the world will have officially burned more oil than what's left in the ground. That moment -- peak oil, it's called -- is not a question of if but when: Some say the tap-out starts out in 30 years; Exxon-Mobil's own recently published estimate says five; one Princeton geologist says maybe next year. When it does happen, it may not be celebrated, or even noticed right away, but it will mark the beginning of the long slide to an inevitable reconfiguration of, well, civilization as we know it.

If that sounds alarmist, recall that our vast economy of just-in-time, transnationally shipped inventory is fueled entirely by petroleum. As is our food supply, whose end products like poultry and beef are elaborate (and remarkably inefficient) conversions of petroleum energy into food calories. The widespread use of petrochemical fertilizers to grow feed for livestock has turned agriculture into one of the biggest sources of oil demand after transportation. It's a demand that's skyrocketing worldwide: With current measures, experts predict global oil consumption will rise 57 percent by 2025 -- just in time for that coming peak. If small supply shocks like OPEC's embargoes in the '70s can create recessions, what would happen in the face of significant, persistent, growing shortages?

A Greater Depression, or even chaos, is the answer, as was discovered in late June at a war game called "Oil Shockwave." The participants, including many former Republican administration members, spent several days running through various scenarios of disrupted oil supply. Even with small-scale trouble, the exercises quickly spun out of control. "The American people," concluded former CIA Director Robert M. Gates, "are going to pay a terrible price for not having an energy strategy."

James Woolsey, another former CIA director present at "Oil Shockwave," was equally troubled. Woolsey, friend to Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld and Douglas Feith, and member of the bona fide neocon Defense Policy Board, has become an alternative-energy buff in the interest of national security. A few weeks later, Woolsey presented a paper along with George Schultz, Reagan's secretary of state, to the Committee on Present Danger about how our oil dependency makes the country extremely vulnerable. They argued that national security requires a radical change in energy policy, starting with fuel-efficiency standards. Woolsey and Schultz also dared to draw the less-talked-about blood/oil connection: that the spread of the Wahhabi ideology and a lot of terrorist planning has been funded by petrodollars.

If energy conservation, then, is a first line of national defense, why do so many jackasses drive their SUVs around with American flags all over them? More importantly, why did the country get an energy bill that, according to the administration's own Energy Information Administration (EIA), will actually raise gas prices and increase oil demand nearly 14 percent in just the next six years?

To be fair, the bill did include many new incentives for renewable energy. And although many on the Left don't like it, the bill's jump-start for nuclear power -- much safer today with new technology -- has some mixed promise. But that's not broad enough thinking. We need what Woolsey and Schultz describe: a focused effort in funding and research that turns the energy equation upside down.

Instead, we're getting $10 billion more "missile defense." And an even costlier PR junket -- I mean scientifically valuable manned mission -- to Mars. Not to mention the war in Iraq, at $200 billion and counting. Imagine how much renewable-energy development we could have gotten for all that money. Problem solved! With the kind of funding wasted by Bush in just the past five years, we could have had a Manhattan Project for energy security several times over -- and actually made a difference in national security. As Woolsey and Schultz put it, sounding like granola munchers on their way to Earth Day:

"A plug-in hybrid averaging 125 mpg, if its fuel tank contains 85 percent cellulosic ethanol, would be obtaining about 500 mpg. If it were constructed from carbon composites, the mileage could double, and, if it were a diesel and powered by biodiesel derived from waste, it would be using no oil products at all . . . What are we waiting for?"

Good question.
Yep. Facts be damned. I notice you don't address your former claims about Reagan and Bush Sr., and now have returned to your standard method of reply - C&Ping opinions.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Here are some articles for ya on your beloved GW...

Not too mention the only reason prices were so low when he was running for 2nd term was an agreement from his friends in the saudi government to lower the prices during the election period.

Here this one is my favorite articles, well written and to the point.

Text

Ok, I didnt really think prices have been terribly low for Oil since Feb of 2000 when oil was around 23 bucks a barrel.

btw think you may make it onto my sig. That exchange was too classic for me to ignore.
 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Here are some articles for ya on your beloved GW...

Not too mention the only reason prices were so low when he was running for 2nd term was an agreement from his friends in the saudi government to lower the prices during the election period.

Here this one is my favorite articles, well written and to the point.

Text

Ok, I didnt really think prices have been terribly low for Oil since Feb of 2000 when oil was around 23 bucks a barrel.

btw think you may make it onto my sig. That exchange was too classic for me to ignore.


OH boy really, I will make your sig. I am so proud.....

I am still wating for that argument.

(s)low
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Well I am all for PMing. But sending me a PM calling me a Butt Muncher then ignoring me is childish. Infact it is cowardice.

Grow up.


OHHHH, that's the best ya got, I really feel that heat now....

I only Pm'ed you that and then ignored you cause I know your type, and I knew it would get you all knotted up and and pissy at me.....

Just because you are mad at the world for hating your beloved GWB, don't take it out on those who didn't vote for him.

lmao you mean the vicious salvo I sent you thanking you for your condolence that got the response of "Butt Muncher"?

I seem to remember you were the one who initiated the PM, not me. I am always up for a good debate, but it seems you lack the resources to do it.

I suggest going back to Hardware because it is obvious you dont have the temperment to last here very long.


You keep saying that I don't have the temperment to last here but yet you still prove nothing about your "wonderful" president.

What Salvo??? it was lame.

what resources do I need to keep up with your feelbe attempt to argue an argument you can never win.

What is there to prove? I didnt start a thread blaming the price of gasoline on the President.

You have yet to prove the President sets the price of Gasoline on a given day.
And anybody who cant even handle an exchange of PMs and tucks his tail between legs and runs, lacks the temperment to last in here.
 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Here are some articles for ya on your beloved GW...

Not too mention the only reason prices were so low when he was running for 2nd term was an agreement from his friends in the saudi government to lower the prices during the election period.

Here this one is my favorite articles, well written and to the point.

Text

Ok, I didnt really think prices have been terribly low for Oil since Feb of 2000 when oil was around 23 bucks a barrel.

btw think you may make it onto my sig. That exchange was too classic for me to ignore.


OH boy really, I will make your sig. I am so proud.....

I am still wating for that argument.

(s)low

Be a man an unignore me from your PM.
 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Here are some articles for ya on your beloved GW...

Not too mention the only reason prices were so low when he was running for 2nd term was an agreement from his friends in the saudi government to lower the prices during the election period.

Here this one is my favorite articles, well written and to the point.

Text

Ok, I didnt really think prices have been terribly low for Oil since Feb of 2000 when oil was around 23 bucks a barrel.

btw think you may make it onto my sig. That exchange was too classic for me to ignore.


OH boy really, I will make your sig. I am so proud.....

I am still wating for that argument.

(s)low

Be a man an unignore me from your PM.


ROFL OwnD

The whole reason I ignored you is becuase I knew that it would drive you nuts.

I would rather just laugh at you and leave you on ignore.....If you are man enough you will say what you need to say to me in the forum rather then through the PM. The only reason you need to PM is to cry like a little baby, the only reason I cry is when I pull up to the pump to pay $3.00 a gallon....Thanks for voting GWB in office.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Here are some articles for ya on your beloved GW...

Not too mention the only reason prices were so low when he was running for 2nd term was an agreement from his friends in the saudi government to lower the prices during the election period.

Here this one is my favorite articles, well written and to the point.

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Ok, I didnt really think prices have been terribly low for Oil since Feb of 2000 when oil was around 23 bucks a barrel.

btw think you may make it onto my sig. That exchange was too classic for me to ignore.


OH boy really, I will make your sig. I am so proud.....

I am still wating for that argument.

(s)low

Be a man an unignore me from your PM.


ROFL OwnD

The whole reason I ignored you is becuase I knew that it would drive you nuts.

I would rather just laugh at you and leave you on ignore.....If you are man enough you will say what you need to say to me in the forum rather then through the PM. The only reason you need to PM is to cry like a little baby, the only reason I cry is when I pull up to the pump to pay $3.00 a gallon....Thanks for voting GWB in office.


Actually I would like to continue the fine conversation we were having. I think it is rather rude and childish to PM somebody then put them on ignore. If you are going to PM somebody at least have the decency to finish the conversation.

Ill be back here tomorrow conversing with the same crew about the same topics and nothing will have changed.

You on the other hand have managed to stick yourself into the clown box in a matter of hours.

Congrats

 
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