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BBond

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Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.


well when I said deaf ears, maybe I should have said dumb ears in your case.

Did you read????

If Bush wouldn't have CUT funding to research alternative fuel research, myabe we would be further along towards the inevitable goal of having to move in that direction.

If the kooks of the left wouldn't have fought so hard in the 70s against building nuclear reactors, we wouldn't have to rely on oil nearly so much today.

Also, we have alternative fuel already. It's called ethanol.

If the kooks of the right wouldn't have fought so hard against alternative energy we wouldn't have to rely on oil nearly so much today.

Here's an editorial cartoon that captures the gist of the current oil "crisis". The cartoons usually change daily so I'll give a brief description.

A guy sits stranded on the roof of his flooded home as the "Big Oil" yacht passes loaded with money bags labeled "Profits". On the yacht a man in a shirt reading "Big Oil" says to the guy stranded on his roof, "A Lift? Sorry, no room."

A lift? Sorry, no room
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.


well when I said deaf ears, maybe I should have said dumb ears in your case.

Did you read????

If Bush wouldn't have CUT funding to research alternative fuel research, myabe we would be further along towards the inevitable goal of having to move in that direction.

If the kooks of the left wouldn't have fought so hard in the 70s against building nuclear reactors, we wouldn't have to rely on oil nearly so much today.

Also, we have alternative fuel already. It's called ethanol.

Ethanol? Which we have to put more energy into than we get out of?
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I guess we couldn't wait for the UN to finish the inspection for WMD's??

How long should we have waited.

As long as Saddam wanted to play hide and seek.

The only reason the UN was able to even step foot in the country was when the US started making threats about non-cooperation.

Noticed that Saddam kept kicking out the inspectors or stone-walling them.
What hide and seek? There was NOTHING to hide! And, the inspectors had access to any site. Or has that fact become forgotten to you?
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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Wars do these things. Make one in an oil producing region and you get a large war premium and speculation.

Well you were told you were going to need to sacrifice. Here you go.
 

BBond

Diamond Member
Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I guess we couldn't wait for the UN to finish the inspection for WMD's??

How long should we have waited.

As long as Saddam wanted to play hide and seek.

The only reason the UN was able to even step foot in the country was when the US started making threats about non-cooperation.

Noticed that Saddam kept kicking out the inspectors or stone-walling them.
What hide and seek? There was NOTHING to hide! And, the inspectors had access to any site. Or has that fact become forgotten to you?

Conjur, some people can't wrap their minds around the fact that you can't play hide and seek when you don't have anything to hide.

Some people will cling to this excuse no matter how many times we point out that it has been completely disproven.

Never underestimate the power of denial.
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.


well when I said deaf ears, maybe I should have said dumb ears in your case.

Did you read????

If Bush wouldn't have CUT funding to research alternative fuel research, myabe we would be further along towards the inevitable goal of having to move in that direction.

If the kooks of the left wouldn't have fought so hard in the 70s against building nuclear reactors, we wouldn't have to rely on oil nearly so much today.

Also, we have alternative fuel already. It's called ethanol.

Ethanol? Which we have to put more energy into than we get out of?
Exactly. Even at the price it's at now gas is still cheaper than ethanol and ethanol is not exactly cost-effective to produce, which is why it's subsidized.

 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Oh and don't forget also Bush's buddy Cheney, he likes to send money his way too.....

Cheney's Halliburton has received over $7 billion in contracts from the war in Iraq, many of them without bidding ? that's just the way things work inside Bush's beltway.

Oh Haliburton is now in the business of selling oil on the open market?
Didnt take long to derail your own thread.

Congrats!


I am not the one who started in that direction, it just ended up there. I am sorry I get easily sidetracked on the many issues the GW has Fvcked up. I am also sorry that was the best defense against the Haliburton crooks you came up with.

I am through with you, especially becuase you are probably some hard lined Republican with nothing useful to say. I will say this to you, I just hope that you don't have children, I feel bad for you if you do with your GW support.

lmao

Derails his own thread and manages to lob insult after insult. You really couldnt fit the script any better.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I guess we couldn't wait for the UN to finish the inspection for WMD's??

How long should we have waited.

As long as Saddam wanted to play hide and seek.

The only reason the UN was able to even step foot in the country was when the US started making threats about non-cooperation.

Noticed that Saddam kept kicking out the inspectors or stone-walling them.
What hide and seek? There was NOTHING to hide! And, the inspectors had access to any site. Or has that fact become forgotten to you?

lmao you actually believe that?



 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.


well when I said deaf ears, maybe I should have said dumb ears in your case.

Did you read????

If Bush wouldn't have CUT funding to research alternative fuel research, myabe we would be further along towards the inevitable goal of having to move in that direction.

If the kooks of the left wouldn't have fought so hard in the 70s against building nuclear reactors, we wouldn't have to rely on oil nearly so much today.

Also, we have alternative fuel already. It's called ethanol.

If the kooks of the right wouldn't have fought so hard against alternative energy we wouldn't have to rely on oil nearly so much today.

Here's an editorial cartoon that captures the gist of the current oil "crisis". The cartoons usually change daily so I'll give a brief description.

A guy sits stranded on the roof of his flooded home as the "Big Oil" yacht passes loaded with money bags labeled "Profits". On the yacht a man in a shirt reading "Big Oil" says to the guy stranded on his roof, "A Lift? Sorry, no room."

A lift? Sorry, no room

If the kooks on the left hadn't fought so hard against the nuclear reacors, we wouldn't have to worry so much about alternative energy today.

Besides that, alternative energy development requires years to come to fruition. Where are the great alternative energy accomplishments from the Clinton admin? Shouldn't Billy boy already have taken care of us?
 

JackStorm

Golden Member
Aug 26, 2003
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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
New to this site yet you clearly have an Off-Topic style signature within 2 days? OK.

You might be correct there. Yet, at the same time, one has to wonder how you know that. Could it be that you are a formerly banned member with a new account?
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I guess we couldn't wait for the UN to finish the inspection for WMD's??
How long should we have waited.

As long as Saddam wanted to play hide and seek.

The only reason the UN was able to even step foot in the country was when the US started making threats about non-cooperation.

Noticed that Saddam kept kicking out the inspectors or stone-walling them.
What hide and seek? There was NOTHING to hide! And, the inspectors had access to any site. Or has that fact become forgotten to you?
lmao you actually believe that?
Yes. I tend to believe facts, not right-wing propaganda and spin.

We've been over this topic for months on end and the only thing you have in your weak defense is your denial.

Now, how about getting back to the topic of the gas prices and this administration's lack of effort to do anything about them?
 

BBond

Diamond Member
Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

If the kooks on the left hadn't fought so hard against the nuclear reacors, we wouldn't have to worry so much about alternative energy today.

Besides that, alternative energy development requires years to come to fruition. Where are the great alternative energy accomplishments from the Clinton admin? Shouldn't Billy boy already have taken care of us?

You complete partisan hack. Reagan steered America away from energy independence and Bush's daddy continued in the same direction. Why do you continue to blame Clinton for the failures of Reagan/Bush/Bush. Didn't Clinton have enough on his plate ending the Reagan/Bush depression and fending off eight years of the Republican initiated U.S. taxpayer funded vendetta against a Democratic president wholly in retaliation for the well deserved resignation of that criminal Nixon?
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
41,091
513
126
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I guess we couldn't wait for the UN to finish the inspection for WMD's??
How long should we have waited.

As long as Saddam wanted to play hide and seek.

The only reason the UN was able to even step foot in the country was when the US started making threats about non-cooperation.

Noticed that Saddam kept kicking out the inspectors or stone-walling them.
What hide and seek? There was NOTHING to hide! And, the inspectors had access to any site. Or has that fact become forgotten to you?
lmao you actually believe that?
Yes. I tend to believe facts, not right-wing propaganda and spin.

We've been over this topic for months on end and the only thing you have in your weak defense is your denial.

Now, how about getting back to the topic of the gas prices and this administration's lack of effort to do anything about them?

lmao

http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/Chronology/chronologyframe.htm

If you need I am sure we can dig up some links to Saddam turning inspectors away from palaces even in 03.

 

BaliBabyDoc

Lifer
Jan 20, 2001
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0
0
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.


well when I said deaf ears, maybe I should have said dumb ears in your case.

Did you read????

If Bush wouldn't have CUT funding to research alternative fuel research, myabe we would be further along towards the inevitable goal of having to move in that direction.

Technically, it was Reagan that caused the MOST trouble and the national energy plan came from his predecessor . . . Carter.
"It is a problem we will not solve in the next few years, and it is likely to get progressively worse through the rest of this century. "We must not be selfish or timid if we hope to have a decent world for our children and grandchildren.

"We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now, we can control our future instead of letting the future control us."

"The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation."
---
"[T]he 'moral equivalent of war' -- except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not destroy."

Jimmy Carter
April 18, 1977

Carter proposals led to the SPR (the one Bush is now using), solar power industry, improved home insulation, and the nation's FIRST energy policy.

"Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own production and our own conservation. The generation-long growth in our dependence on foreign oil will be stopped dead in its tracks right now and then reversed as we move through the 1980s..." In addition, we needed to immediately begin to develop a long-range strategy to move beyond fossil fuel.

Jimmy Carter
July 15, 1979

After election, one of the first things Reagan did (after Nancy re-decorated) . . . was remove the solar panels from the White House. He followed that up by dismantling/defunding virtually all of the programs designed for energy efficiency/independence.

Bush sux but Reagan was arguably far worse. I doubt Peggy Noonan or Dinesh D'Souza will write about it, though.
 

BMGSkulk

Junior Member
Aug 31, 2005
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Just suppose...

So what if the war in Iraq is about oil?

How many of you drive cars, or operate machinery in your professions?

If you hate the "war for oil" thing so much..stop driving and take up walking.
Get a different job...perhaps...as a gardener...or a mime...or anything that makes
as little use of any resource as possible.

In a perfect world, every country and everyone would share the world's resources in a fair manner.

Having said that...as a planet...we need to start developing alternative fuel and
lubricant strategies. Like...right about now...
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I guess we couldn't wait for the UN to finish the inspection for WMD's??
How long should we have waited.

As long as Saddam wanted to play hide and seek.

The only reason the UN was able to even step foot in the country was when the US started making threats about non-cooperation.

Noticed that Saddam kept kicking out the inspectors or stone-walling them.
What hide and seek? There was NOTHING to hide! And, the inspectors had access to any site. Or has that fact become forgotten to you?
lmao you actually believe that?
Yes. I tend to believe facts, not right-wing propaganda and spin.

We've been over this topic for months on end and the only thing you have in your weak defense is your denial.

Now, how about getting back to the topic of the gas prices and this administration's lack of effort to do anything about them?

lmao

http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/Chronology/chronologyframe.htm

If you need I am sure we can dig up some links to Saddam turning inspectors away from palaces even in 03.


That stopped in 1999. I'm not talking about then. I'm talking about the ramp-up to the invasion.

See...I knew you had nothing.
 

Train

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Jun 22, 2000
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The govt funding for alternative fuels was a joke. You honestly think we would have less dependence within 4 years? LOL

The funding wasn't accomplishing anything. The Private energy companies are way ahead of it anyways. BP, Sunoco, Marathon, Shell, etc, are all years ahead of any govt funded energy development. Privately funded research beats out govt funded research, SHOCKER!

And I thought Bush was unable to control his spending? I hear that all the time, yet then again I hear complaints about the funding he's cut quite often. Go figure.
 
Sep 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

If the kooks on the left hadn't fought so hard against the nuclear reacors, we wouldn't have to worry so much about alternative energy today.

Besides that, alternative energy development requires years to come to fruition. Where are the great alternative energy accomplishments from the Clinton admin? Shouldn't Billy boy already have taken care of us?

You complete partisan hack. Reagan steered America away from energy independence and Bush's daddy continued in the same direction. Why do you continue to blame Clinton for the failures of Reagan/Bush/Bush. Didn't Clinton have enough on his plate ending the Reagan/Bush depression and fending off eight years of the Republican initiated U.S. taxpayer funded vendetta against a Democratic president wholly in retaliation for the well deserved resignation of that criminal Nixon?
You sound more like the partisan hack here, making excuses for why Clinton didn't do anything significant about alternative fuels and implying that all our problems would have been solved if GW Bush hadn't cut funding. How utterly moronic of you.

 

GamerExpress

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I guess we couldn't wait for the UN to finish the inspection for WMD's??

How long should we have waited.

As long as Saddam wanted to play hide and seek.

The only reason the UN was able to even step foot in the country was when the US started making threats about non-cooperation.

Noticed that Saddam kept kicking out the inspectors or stone-walling them.
What hide and seek? There was NOTHING to hide! And, the inspectors had access to any site. Or has that fact become forgotten to you?

lmao you actually believe that?


What's not believe, did I miss something....do you actually have proof of these WMD's???

I think not.....there was nothing there to hide, so how was he playing hide and seek with nothing?????

I bet you have some theory conjured up that will come out when GW decides to invade some other country like Iran. The next place he goes into, you will claim the reason is those mysterious WMD's made their way secretly into that country sold from Saddam shortly before the U.S. got into Iraq....or some crazy story like that right???

lol. Fvcktard.
 

BBond

Diamond Member
Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: Czar
bush cut funding to alternative fuel research???

Read what I said. Reagan came into office and completely gutted the alternative energy initiatives championed by President Carter. Bush I, being a complete whore for the oil industry for decades, continued on this path. Bush II, along with Cheney and his top secret meetings with energy industry officials who dictated U.S. energy policy (I wonder why Cheney was do adamant about hiding the facts behidn THOSE meetings) followed in the very same direction.

Now we have the USA bogged down in an unnecessary war in a nation that owns the world's second or third largest oil reserves while energy prices skyrocket. Add to that Enron's fleecing of the West Coast energy markets in 2001 and 2002. Add to that the wholesale giveaway of America's forests to the logging industry and what picture do you get?

I get a progression of Republican administrations completely controlled by short sighted corporate interests that they don't give a damn about energy costs, the environment, or Americans other that a very few of their friends who sit on those corporate boards.

When Bush successfully overthrew the U.S. government, gas prices were around $1 per gallon. They're $3 per gallon now AFTER Bush's unnecessary, unprovoked attack against Iraq.

Does that make sense to you? It doesn't make sense to me. Unless you realize that the energy industry, in collusion with the Bush administration, is fleecing America for every cent they can get. Just like they did on the West Coast back in 2001-2002 when they got the green light from their lackies in the Bush White House.
 

halik

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.

aah economics.... the failure of public education
 

BDawg

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Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.

The President did tell the country he could lower the gas prices.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.

The President did tell the country he could lower the gas prices.

I believe he said he'd tell dem A-RABS to "open the spigot".
 

GamerExpress

Banned
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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.

The President did tell the country he could lower the gas prices.

I believe he said he'd tell dem A-RABS to "open the spigot".


ROFL...

Here is good one, I am sure you have probably seen it.

Dubya
 
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