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irishScott

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Making it harder to purchase guns is basically the dictionary definition of gun control. It does not mean that they are in favor of any and all gun control, but they are at a minimum in favor of some additional gun control.

Then we're arguing semantics. But going back to what started this little sub-conversation, I was talking about the "gun control base", by which I mean the gun control equivalent of the Republican or Democrat bases, the die-hard ideologues who typically dominate primaries.

You wouldn't define everyone who votes Republican or Democrat in any given election as part of the base. Most people in those polls would be unaffected by news (if they're even aware in the first place) that the NRA had apologized for something it said about another pro-gun group.
 

Venix

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Making it harder to purchase guns is basically the dictionary definition of gun control. It does not mean that they are in favor of any and all gun control, but they are at a minimum in favor of some additional gun control.

Sure, but consider the connotations of the phrase. It's like "liberal" and "conservative," where the dictionary definition is pretty far from what the words mean in political speech.

Semantics aside, we apparently agree on what the poll is measuring. I just don't think it's particularly useful metric because it captures both "keep firearms away from crazies" and "only the government can have guns" in the same bucket.

A more nuanced poll would be interesting, although I think it would just demonstrate that most of the public is ignorant of the topic or doesn't care. For example, Washington voters were recently polled about two contradictory gun initiatives on the 2014 ballot, and the result showed that both initiatives has majority support. I found it rather amusing that people would vote for X and also for Not X at the same time.
 

irishScott

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Hmm...

Obviously not an open carry patriot, gun grabber setup confirmed.

Seriously, he's black! Everyone knows that anyone in favor of gun rights has to be a conservative white male, probably old. All other demographics support reasonable gun control like banning all rifles that hold 6 rounds.
 

bshole

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True, I'm just saying that your chart doesn't measure ideologies or general beliefs. I doubt the vast majority of people in favor of greater sales restrictions are universally "pro-gun-control". They may want universal background checks and mental health checks, but many (most?) would probably disagree with, say, universal registration or limiting guns to 5 rounds.

As a gun owner myself, I just got to ask..... why are more than 5 rounds needed?
 

Icepick

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Though prior to the open carry idiots those who had CHL's could eat at Chipolte's without having to disarm, that's not possible now thanks to the dunderheads who don't care who they screw over.

Concealed carry means that the firearm is carried in such a way as to keep it's presence unknown. Nobody should know you're carrying if you're doing it right. I don't see the problem here.
 

irishScott

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As a gun owner myself, I just got to ask..... why are more than 5 rounds needed?

Pics or GTFO. You're one of the most rabid and irrationally anti-gun people on this forum, I'll believe it when I see it.

And more than 5 rounds are needed because, in the heat of the moment and possibly when dealing with more than one attacker, people miss. That's all irrelevant though, because magazine limits have never been shown to decrease death or crime; so there's no point other than to give people like you a warm fuzzy.
 

irishScott

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If someone open carried their way into chipotle I'd start running just saying.

Given you're in San Francisco, it's likely an entire city block would join you. Could be a good way to get to the head of a line though. :hmm:

In all seriousness, California recently outlawed what limited open carry they used to allow (used to be you had to carry the gun unloaded but could have a magazine on your belt). So anyone open carrying into a SanFrancisco Chipotle would be quickly arrested and likely jailed longer than actual gun runners.
 
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bshole

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Pics or GTFO. You're one of the most rabid and irrationally anti-gun people on this forum, I'll believe it when I see it.

And more than 5 rounds are needed because, in the heat of the moment and possibly when dealing with more than one attacker, people miss. That's all irrelevant though, because magazine limits have never been shown to decrease death or crime; so there's no point other than to give people like you a warm fuzzy.

You asked and you now recieve. You will notice the little girl in the picture with my gun is also my icon here. She is my daughter. I am probably a better hunter than anybody on this forum. I have more than a dozen 120 plus racks... the vast majority of which were taken with a bow. Have you ever killed ANYTHING with your weapons or are you just a load of smack talk?

So in other words, BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS!!!

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/guns/155482-nwft-gun-year-remington-700-270wsm-2.html



 
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irishScott

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You asked and you now recieve. You will notice the little girl in the picture with my gun is also my icon here. She is my daughter. I am probably a better hunter than anybody on this forum. I have more than a dozen 120 plus racks... the vast majority of which were taken with a bow. Have you ever killed ANYTHING with your weapons or are you just a load of smack talk?

So in other words, BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS!!!

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/guns/155482-nwft-gun-year-remington-700-270wsm-2.html




Yeah, those pictures are from 2006 by a person with a completely different username. Take a picture of your gun with a piece of paper saying "this is my gun -bshole" or something like that.

Not to mention the bolded statement is not something any gun owner I've ever met would say; especially considering I never claimed to be a hunter, let alone a good one.
 

bshole

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bshole, you need a truck.....



I had a Toyota Tundra which I sold 2 years before that picture was taken. I absolutely loved it. It was just too expensive to drive. I figured I would save thousands a year driving a Corolla (45 minute commute to work). I will admit that you look more badass carting a buck on the back of truck. It looks kinda lame tied to the back of a Corolla.

In all honesty I didn't even hunt the last two years. My son's hockey has taken over my hunting season. He plays Division 1A hockey in the state of Wisconsin. His team has went to state several times over the last 8 years and were consolation champions for the entire state two years ago. I am in the process of moving so that he can play high school hockey with the kids he has played with his entire life.

Speaking of moving, if you have cracks in any of your walls and you are thinking of moving, GET THEM FIXED!!!!! I had cracks in my walls and I found out that my house is unsellable (banks won't issue loans) until the cracks are fixed, the foundation reinforced and a certified inspector signs off the fixes. I am paying a minimum of $5k to fix my basement but the costs could run all the way up to $25 depending on everything they find. They are inspecting the drain tile and one covered wall next week Tuesday. I will know then what the total damage is. Fuck man, the banks in Milwaukee aren't screwing around with basements, they basically demand a pristine certified foundation with a tested functional drainage system. They got totally burned in the last decade over basement repairs and they are really gunshy. There are people all over Milwaukee abandoning their houses because they have no equity to draw on in order to fix their basements. It is absolutely rampant. Thank god I have ready money to draw on to fix the issues with my house. I hope my son appreciates the hell I am going through so he can play hockey with his damn friends!

PS. Irish, why don't you blow me?
 
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BoberFett

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I have no reason to believe that isn't him.

Of course the very fact that he has hunted and has a picture of what are presumably his kids posing with his gun, that lands him squarely in ignorant redneck territory and anything he says should be mocked loudly.

"Look ma, uh gotz us a deer fer dinner! Now we'z don hafta get dressed up n go to the walmart for food. HYUK!"
 

bshole

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I have no reason to believe that isn't him.

Of course the very fact that he has hunted and has a picture of what are presumably his kids posing with his gun, that lands him squarely in ignorant redneck territory and anything he says should be mocked loudly.

"Look ma, uh gotz us a deer fer dinner! Now we'z don hafta get dressed up n go to the walmart for food. HYUK!"

Dude, I lived on the Amazon river near Manaus Brazil from the ages of 5 to 10. My parents were missionaries. I was basically killing things and eating them from that time. It sure the hell is alot more honest to kill your food and consume it than to buy it from the store. I am certainly no sqeamish pussy metrosexual half-man half-woman common in America today (you know, a person such as yourself). Guys like you are completely incapable of fixing their own home's plumbing/electrical systems, growing a crop, harvesting an animal, etc.... When and if civilization ever crashes, guys like you always die first. You are omegas, not a drop of alpha in you, not one tiny drop. Evolution no longer prunes the weak from the gene pool, civilization has put an end to that. And people like yourself are the end result.... weak sisters, completely incapable of taking care of themselves and hardly classifiable as male at all.

As to the hillbilly point, I think the erudition of my posts speaks for itself. Lets see, master's degree in electrical engineering, 20 years of employment in the embedded control software field, published in IEEE, meh.... no hillbilly in that.
 
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Thebobo

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Fuck you all I was in the Green Berets at 10!
Thats my company commander in the back. we called him dad...
Notice my Daisy pump loader, took out many a nazi attacking our villa.



Now who's the real man now suckers?!

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bshole

Diamond Member
Mar 12, 2013
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Fuck you all I was in the Green Berets at 10!
Thats my company commander in the back. we called him dad...
Notice my Daisy pump loader, took out many a nazi attacking our villa.



Now who's the real man now suckers?!

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That is a kick ass outfit you got on. I have some pictures that were took from when we were in Brazil. I am thinking of posting few, if I can find them.
 

jhbball

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Mar 20, 2002
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You asked and you now recieve. You will notice the little girl in the picture with my gun is also my icon here. She is my daughter. I am probably a better hunter than anybody on this forum. I have more than a dozen 120 plus racks... the vast majority of which were taken with a bow. Have you ever killed ANYTHING with your weapons or are you just a load of smack talk?

So in other words, BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS!!!

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/guns/155482-nwft-gun-year-remington-700-270wsm-2.html




Impressive. What kind of gun did the deer have?
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Fuck you all I was in the Green Berets at 10!
Thats my company commander in the back. we called him dad...
Notice my Daisy pump loader, took out many a nazi attacking our villa.



Now who's the real man now suckers?!

.

Oh, so you were for open carry before you were against open carry?
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Dude, I lived on the Amazon river near Manaus Brazil from the ages of 5 to 10. My parents were missionaries. I was basically killing things and eating them from that time. It sure the hell is alot more honest to kill your food and consume it than to buy it from the store. I am certainly no sqeamish pussy metrosexual half-man half-woman common in America today (you know, a person such as yourself). Guys like you are completely incapable of fixing their own home's plumbing/electrical systems, growing a crop, harvesting an animal, etc.... When and if civilization ever crashes, guys like you always die first. You are omegas, not a drop of alpha in you, not one tiny drop. Evolution no longer prunes the weak from the gene pool, civilization has put an end to that. And people like yourself are the end result.... weak sisters, completely incapable of taking care of themselves and hardly classifiable as male at all.

As to the hillbilly point, I think the erudition of my posts speaks for itself. Lets see, master's degree in electrical engineering, 20 years of employment in the embedded control software field, published in IEEE, meh.... no hillbilly in that.

I'm trying to stifle laughter at work...
 
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