I really dont give two shits about Musk, I do want to see his visions come to fruition though, at the agressive timetable... Be it Elon or someone(s) else, dont care.
I really dont give two shits about Musk, I do want to see his visions come to fruition though, at the agressive timetable... Be it Elon or someone(s) else, dont care.This is P&N. Has anyone ever checked themselves here?
The main problem is the herd splits differently on "visionary's". There isn't a defined and accepted agenda so we end up with outliers in every direction. Musk runs the scale from Messiah to scammer.
Personally, I think he's 20% Einstein and 80% P.T. Barnum.
Every post you've made in this thread?Haha, please quote this overly emotional post you're referring to because I don't see it.
I have to give him credit for bringing the concept of EV's to the masses forcing mainstream auto makers to reinvent themselves. Perhaps their cost will drop low enough to replace cheap gassers so even low income people will be able to afford one.I really dont give two shits about Musk, I do want to see his visions come to fruition though, at the agressive timetable... Be it Elon or someone(s) else, dont care.
Every post you've made in this thread?
I agree with this. He goes big, but he's not as brilliant as people believe. Still, I respect him and hope he accomplishes his lofty goals (Mars, etc).This is P&N. Has anyone ever checked themselves here?
The main problem is the herd splits differently on "visionary's". There isn't a defined and accepted agenda so we end up with outliers in every direction. Musk runs the scale from Messiah to scammer.
Personally, I think he's 20% Einstein and 80% P.T. Barnum.
I can't find anything that says solid state electrolyte sodium batteries are a workable product at this time, or in the near future. Do you have a link to better information than a google search returns? I'm very curious about the technology.
This is P&N. Has anyone ever checked themselves here?
The main problem is the herd splits differently on "visionary's". There isn't a defined and accepted agenda so we end up with outliers in every direction. Musk runs the scale from Messiah to scammer.
Personally, I think he's 20% Einstein and 80% P.T. Barnum.
They don't, they have a huge lead in old battery technology which is why they are hellbent on not allowing anyone to use solid state electrolyte sodium batteries on the market. They are trying to buy the patent and ensure that no one gets to use it because such batteries would last 50-100 years without degradation while the investments in the slave labour lithium mines that Tesla owns is their key to success in the battery department.
It's a basic standard of big oil but this is big lithium and it's not turning out the way Musk had hoped which is why he's going off into the deep end of mental instability now and acting like an unmonitored version of Trump where he sends messages about child brides and pedophiles to buzzfeed when he has nothing to back it up.
It's getting kind of pathetic.
Volvo/Geely owns the patents on the sensor/recognition system that Tesla uses for autonomous driving.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/0...-buyout-tweet-could-get-him-in-legal-trouble/
TL;DR: this thread's "felony" claim is garbage, but Musk's loose-cannon tweet will probably cost Tesla millions in settlements to investors.
Whelp.
SEC charges Tesla, Elon Musk with fraud
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/27/tesla-falls-4percent-on-report-elon-musk-sued-by-sec.html
lol
Felony charges or just fraud? IANAL.
Doesn't look good for Elon. I'm guessing the SEC is aiming high hoping for a settlement, but if not and they win Tesla and Elon are going to be screwed.
Doesn't look good for Elon. I'm guessing the SEC is aiming high hoping for a settlement, but if not and they win Tesla and Elon are going to be screwed.
Yeah, I know, that is what I was referring to. The SEC wins Elon is screwed. But the SEC might actually be hoping for a settlement that isn't as harsh. Either way, I think Elon and Tesla are going to be pretty hurt by it.The SEC is asking for Musk to be permanently barred from acting as an officer of a publicly traded company.
It's only stock manipulation if it isn't true.
If it's true, there is no manipulation.
So you are claiming it's a sham, and there is no plan to take Tesla Private?
I don't think Blackjack knows much about how the SEC works.
If you think someone like Musk 'Committed a felony via tweet' then it's a good time to admit you're probably not sure what's going on and are misunderstanding the situation.
Honestly, my guess is blackjack got burned on a short.
The SEC is asking for Musk to be permanently barred from acting as an officer of a publicly traded company.
Yeah, I know, that is what I was referring to. The SEC wins Elon is screwed. But the SEC might actually be hoping for a settlement that isn't as harsh. Either way, I think Elon and Tesla are going to be pretty hurt by it.
I'm not totally surprised SEC is suing but I'm surprised how quickly the lawsuit was filed and the severity of the demand. SEC is throwing the book at Elon and going after him hard to make an example of him. It does not look good for Elon and Tesla. If the worst case comes true and Elon loses and is barred from serving as the CEO and chairman of Tesla, perhaps he can do what he did for the sale of flamethrowers for his The Boring Company. Just like Elon sold the flamethrowers as "Not a Flamethrower", perhaps he can still guide Tesla with CEO title of "Not a CEO."