That last offensive play by the Seahawks? Bad call?

[Muse]

That play was called by the offensive coordinator and approved by Pete Carrol.

I don't think it was a bad call. If they'd run the ball
and not gained yardage, or worse, lost a couple of yards, they'd have
had to call their last timeout and run 3rd down, having to pass. They
figured it would either be a touchdown or incompleted pass with 4
seconds off the clock. They'd have the element of surprise, everyone
expected Lynch on a handoff. If it didn't work, they'd still have their
timeout and could either run or pass.

Carrol is saying it was his fault, Wilson said it was his (he made a good pass).

It wasn't a bad call, it just backfired!




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[soulcougher73]

Im a Pats fan i think it was a bad call. When you have a guy like Beast Mode on the 1 yard line and 3 downs to go with 25 seconds and 1 time out. You pound it in. Just saying. Ill take the win though. Thanks

 

[manimal]

they had their big package out on D and Seattle countered with a pick play on the outside since it was man to man. Browner made the play by playing physical and not allowing the pick. Clearly the Pats secondary had this tendancy scouted and they played their keys properly. Great play by the rook more than a mistake.


Could Wilson had placed the ball a little lower below the facemask ? Yes. This has been a money play for the seahawks a few times this year and MANY teams run it. Half of trestmans system is like that.

 

[andylawcc]

but but.... the element of surprise IS to throw it on 1st down....

 

[gorcorps]

It was a terrible call. They were stacked in a goalline defense, and they called an inside pass where ALL of the defenders were piled up. The risk of a deflection or interception was much greater with the call they made.

It wasn't just a matter of "they called a pass instead of a run", it was also that they called a pass in the highest traffic area given what the defense was showing. If they wanted to pass, it should have been to the outside. So... not only was it a bad call from a run/pass standpoint, it was the wrong pass play to call anyway.

 

[Krazy4Real]

I'm OK with trying a pass play to try to catch them off guard. Make it a fade route though.

 

[chowderhead]

there was lots of traffic that Wilson was throwing to.
The slant pass could be prone to be tipped by the defender.

They should have ran the ball anyways but if they wanted a pass, it should have been a fade route towards the sidelines so only the receiver has the chance to catch it or it goes out of bounds.

 

[manimal]

It was a terrible call. They were stacked in a goalline defense, and they called an inside pass where ALL of the defenders were piled up. The risk of a deflector or interception was much greater with the call they made.

It wasn't just a matter of "they called a pass instead of a run", it was also that they called a pass in the highest traffic area given what the defense was showing. If they wanted to pass, it should have been to the outside. So... not only was it a bad call from a run/pass standpoint, it was the wrong pass play to call anyway.

play is designed as a pick play. Corners were in man to man and he threw to a corner.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I hate Monday morning quarterbacks. Every call that works is "of course, that was obvious" and every play that doesn't work is automatically a stupid call. If the play resulted in a TD they'd be claiming that they would have done the same thing because NE would be gearing up to stop the run. If Seattle handed off and got stuffed or fumbled the same idiots would be saying that the run was stupid and of course Seattle had to pass there because NE wouldn't be expecting the pass. Every play is a gamble and every play has a chance of backfiring. If the CB is 1/10th of a second later in recognizing the pick or lined up one step further outside or the pass thrown 1 foot further left then it's an easy TD and Carroll is a genius.

 

[DrPizza]

If you can't pound it in from the 1 yard line, given 3 downs & a time out... you don't deserve to be in the Superbowl.

 

[ControlD]

I hate Monday morning quarterbacks. Every call that works is "of course, that was obvious" and every play that doesn't work is automatically a stupid call. If the play resulted in a TD they'd be claiming that they would have done the same thing because NE would be gearing up to stop the run. If Seattle handed off and got stuffed or fumbled the same idiots would be saying that the run was stupid and of course Seattle had to pass there because NE wouldn't be expecting the pass. Every play is a gamble and every play has a chance of backfiring. If the CB is 1/10th of a second later in recognizing the pick or lined up one step further outside or the pass thrown 1 foot further left then it's an easy TD and Carroll is a genius.

This.

 

[Squeetard]

Worst play I've ever seen called. You have 3 downs and Lynch. An absolute no brainer.

 

[DesiPower]

Deliberate bad call, Vegas had to be involved, look for Wilson's cayman account

 

[gorcorps]

I hate Monday morning quarterbacks. Every call that works is "of course, that was obvious" and every play that doesn't work is automatically a stupid call. If the play resulted in a TD they'd be claiming that they would have done the same thing because NE would be gearing up to stop the run. If Seattle handed off and got stuffed or fumbled the same idiots would be saying that the run was stupid and of course Seattle had to pass there because NE wouldn't be expecting the pass. Every play is a gamble and every play has a chance of backfiring. If the CB is 1/10th of a second later in recognizing the pick or lined up one step further outside or the pass thrown 1 foot further left then it's an easy TD and Carroll is a genius.

Well yeah, hindsight is always 20/20

But football is over now so this is all we have left to talk about :\

 

[Jeffg010]

Bad call!

That was the worst call ever in a super bowl can anyone even think of a worst call then that no you can't.

 

[z1ggy]

Wasn't Wilson in shotgun though? So what, were they going to do a hand off on the goal line from a shotgun formation? Uh no. So I doubt the pats D was truly going to be fooled.

Secondly, whyyyyyy would you throw a slant into the middle of the D, where there's at least going to be 3, maybe 4 defenders right on the receiver. I get that it was only 1 yard to go, so yard gaining is not the issue, but from a % of odds of completing a pass in general, I'd put it pretty low.

Thirdly, even if you are dead set of passing... Why not the fade route over the back shoulder of the tallest dude out on the field, who I may add, had a monster game thus far.

TLDR; bone head call no matter what angle you look at it.

 

[Anubis]

Well yeah, hindsight is always 20/20

But football is over now so this is all we have left to talk about :\

spring training is right around the corner

 

[njdevilsfan87]

Worst play I've ever seen called. You have 3 downs and Lynch. An absolute no brainer.

Why a high risk play like that when the low risk one is almost a guaranteed score - all while potentially running the clock down to absolutely nothing? If they had scored there, the Pats would have gotten the ball back and still had 2-3 plays to make a miracle happen.

I will never get this call.

 

[rudder]

EDIT: And I would have taken my time, punched it in with Lynch, and not given the Patriots 30 seconds on the clock since they would have just needed a field goal. very doable for them.

 

[Muse]

If you can't pound it in from the 1 yard line, given 3 downs & a time out... you don't deserve to be in the Superbowl.

Uh, but only 25 seconds on the clock.

 

[Squeetard]

Bad call!

That was the worst call ever in a super bowl can anyone even think of a worst call then that no you can't.

The previous worst call was the Vikings running out the clock when the game was tied. They lost in OT. This one beats it hands down.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Worst play I've ever seen called. You have 3 downs and Lynch. An absolute no brainer.

Yeah, I can't believe they didn't try a run play with Lynch on 2nd down and goal at the 1 yard line. Worst case is you lose 2nd down and burn more time off the clock, they had plenty of time but didn't want to leave New England with any time either. Even if you don't get in the end zone on second down you have 2 more downs and you eat more time off the clock.

 

[DrPizza]

I hate Monday morning quarterbacks. Every call that works is "of course, that was obvious" and every play that doesn't work is automatically a stupid call. If the play resulted in a TD they'd be claiming that they would have done the same thing because NE would be gearing up to stop the run. If Seattle handed off and got stuffed or fumbled the same idiots would be saying that the run was stupid and of course Seattle had to pass there because NE wouldn't be expecting the pass. Every play is a gamble and every play has a chance of backfiring. If the CB is 1/10th of a second later in recognizing the pick or lined up one step further outside or the pass thrown 1 foot further left then it's an easy TD and Carroll is a genius.

No, even if it was a completion for a touchdown, it was still a bad call.
It would be, "wow, that was a bad call, but they got lucky."

 

[SlitheryDee]

Bad call. The amount of yardage they needed for a touchdown is almost guaranteed with Marshawn Lynch. In fact, if he gets stuffed on second down, I'd hand it to him again on 3rd, and then again on 4th if necessary. If you need a guy to get you one yard, and you have Lynch on your team, how in the hell can there even be any question about it?

Lynch was rolling at this point too. After starting kind of slow in the first half, he was gashing the patriots in the second. It had gotten to the point where he was consistently getting positive yardage on every play they gave him the ball, which is something we've seen happen in the latter half of countless Seattle games. Running the ball there would have been both less risky and higher percentage for any team, but knowing what we know about Lynch's running style it seems like a foregone conclusion that they should run the ball there. I had already written it off as a touchdown in my mind and was wondering if they had given Brady enough time to do anything when Wilson threw the interception. My only thought was "Wait, they...threw the ball? Why...I don't..."

 

[SamQuint]

Everyone in the world was thinking run, this would have been the perfect time to call a pass play. However I would have made it an option type play so Wilson would have the chance to run it in if nothing was open.

How many times have you seen a team try three straight times up the middle and not get in.

HUNDREDS of times...

If the play worked he is a genius, it didn't so he is the fool.