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Lifer
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Bad move by the Obama campaign to bring up that shit. Let it go. Repeat. LET IT GO!!!!! The talking heads are already talking about it, you don't need to be fanning the flames.

Yeah, I can't believe anyone pretends to think this matters.
 

Stuxnet

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What a stupid thing to get your panties in a twist over. If that comment bothered you, get thicker skin or walk away from politics.
 

Red Dawn

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Pretty bad when the only thing McCain said in the debate that's talked about afterward is this.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Pretty bad when the only thing McCain said in the debate that's talked about afterward is this.

Personally, I'd like to talk about his petty "Did we hear a fine amount?" comment and his from-left-field policy of reducing everyone's mortgage principle at the government's expense.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
And you are any better with a post like this??

Actually yes, because IF there was anything real from the debate to knock McCain on(like his housing bailout thing) I'd knock him. That's because I am NOT supporting McCain and am not voting for him. I understand how BHO apologists seem to think I support McCain since I'm usually going after BHO, but just because I don't go after McCain as much - doesn't mean I can't go after BHO, his blind followers, and their stupid antics(like this OP).

got it?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Pretty bad when the only thing McCain said in the debate that's talked about afterward is this.

Personally, I'd like to talk about his petty "Did we hear a fine amount?" comment and his from-left-field policy of reducing everyone's mortgage principle at the government's expense.
What made that remarkable was his body language after he said it. He about did a little jig across the stage he was so pleased with himself after he said that.:laugh:
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Pretty bad when the only thing McCain said in the debate that's talked about afterward is this.

Personally, I'd like to talk about his petty "Did we hear a fine amount?" comment and his from-left-field policy of reducing everyone's mortgage principle at the government's expense.
What made that remarkable was his body language after he said it. He about did a little jig across the stage he was so pleased with himself after he said that.:laugh:

You know, I usually switch away from news programs when they bring on their "body language experts," but I'd really like to see an analysis of last night.

McCain very much seemed pleased with himself at many points, while Obama seemed to have the "WTF did he just say!?" expression in full force several times.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Pretty bad when the only thing McCain said in the debate that's talked about afterward is this.

Personally, I'd like to talk about his petty "Did we hear a fine amount?" comment and his from-left-field policy of reducing everyone's mortgage principle at the government's expense.

I for one am VERY interested in said fine, and I think it's more than fair to press him for a specific figure. Everyone expects the nitty gritty of McCain's health care proposals, why can't we ask the same of Obama?

McCain's desire to buy up all the "bad" mortgages terrifies me, and so does Obama's taxing of small businesses.

I'm a small business owner, but I'm the sole employee and I bring in and clear about 100k (no overhead whatsoever), so I'm in no real danger - directly. My father in law, on the other hand, owns a law firm with 8 employees. They bring in over $250,000/year, but I think people are losing sight of revenue != profit. Their firm has been struggling to remain profitable, but when the public hears "it only affects small businesses making over $250,000", they picture Uncle Moneybags running to the bank with a quarter million dollars.

I really think small business taxation is going to hurt us - as a country - a lot. I'll admit I haven't paid much attention to either candidate's health care plan, but McCain's taxation of the $5,000 seems ridiculous.

Neither of these people are what the economy needs right now. I'm comfortable with both with regard to foreign policy, and Obama has certainly impressed me in that regard over the past few weeks.

I'm just rambling at this point... time to hit the reply button.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: scruffypup
I think it is ridiculous people are focusing on this, people are inferring he wanted to insert a derogatory term there,... that is fantasy and playing the race card once again by those who want an advantage by inferred insults,...

NOONE can say that it was truly inferred, only McCain knows his true feelings and what he meant. I truly felt it was just a lapse of speech where he didn't have the name at mind and spoke in an "easy mannerism" which we all can do,... should a president be ever vigilant towards those lapses,.. yes. But other than a lack of protocal here, there is nothing to be made of it, though people obviously want to make something of it.

It is NO ONE.



No one...not "noone".


 

retrospooty

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Apr 3, 2002
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

yes yes.... we all know the call was put out long ago to try to suggest McCain is "disrespectful" but boy oh boy are you people reaching with your attempts to do so. The first debate you morons said he was disrespectful because he didn't look at BHO. :roll: now you want to suggest that saying "that one" is disrespectful? :roll: Not to mention the absolutely false notion that McCain wouldn't shake BHO's hand.

You people are a trip. So blinded by partisanship you can't even see how stupid your statements and actions are. Oh well... party on garth... :roll:

Relax man... Its not all that serious, and I am not all that partisaned... If you bother to read and think before attacking, you might notice that I was not making a stink about the fact that McCain was disrespectful... My Point is that McCain is not helping himself or his campaign by acting disrespectful. Every disrespectful act, whether real, or perceived hurts McCains chances to win over independents and undecided voters. If he wants to win, he need to go out of his way to be perceived as nice, to overcome the perception that he is an angry, bitter old fussbudget.
 

insurgent

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
And you are any better with a post like this??

Actually yes, because IF there was anything real from the debate to knock McCain on(like his housing bailout thing) I'd knock him. That's because I am NOT supporting McCain and am not voting for him. I understand how BHO apologists seem to think I support McCain since I'm usually going after BHO, but just because I don't go after McCain as much - doesn't mean I can't go after BHO, his blind followers, and their stupid antics(like this OP).

got it?

So why don't you go after McCain? Do you approve of his campaign strategy? His focus on mudslinging? How about his VP pick? His policies? Why do you have to lie to yourself?

If you want to talk about blind followers, you think people who think Obama is a muslim is better than the democrats in P&N? How about those who believe he wants to teach sex to 5 year olds, or the people who won't vote for him because of the color of his skin? And the people who believe he is the anti-christ? Again, why do you have to lie to yourself?
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

yes yes.... we all know the call was put out long ago to try to suggest McCain is "disrespectful" but boy oh boy are you people reaching with your attempts to do so. The first debate you morons said he was disrespectful because he didn't look at BHO. :roll: now you want to suggest that saying "that one" is disrespectful? :roll: Not to mention the absolutely false notion that McCain wouldn't shake BHO's hand.

You people are a trip. So blinded by partisanship you can't even see how stupid your statements and actions are. Oh well... party on garth... :roll:

Relax man... Its not all that serious, and I am not all that partisaned... If you bother to read and think before attacking, you might notice that I was not making a stink about the fact that McCain was disrespectful... My Point is that McCain is not helping himself or his campaign by acting disrespectful. Every disrespectful act, whether real, or perceived hurts McCains chances to win over independents and undecided voters. If he wants to win, he need to go out of his way to be perceived as nice, to overcome the perception that he is an angry, bitter old fussbudget.

And all that backpedalling changes what? nothing.

The point still stands that the attempts to make good on the BHO campaign call to paint McCain as "disrespectful" have just been extremely lame yet the BHO blind faithful keep trying to trot it out.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: scruffypup
I think it is ridiculous people are focusing on this, people are inferring he wanted to insert a derogatory term there,... that is fantasy and playing the race card once again by those who want an advantage by inferred insults,...

NOONE can say that it was truly inferred, only McCain knows his true feelings and what he meant. I truly felt it was just a lapse of speech where he didn't have the name at mind and spoke in an "easy mannerism" which we all can do,... should a president be ever vigilant towards those lapses,.. yes. But other than a lack of protocal here, there is nothing to be made of it, though people obviously want to make something of it.

It is NO ONE.
No one...not "noone".

Thanks you captain spelling bee. Now we all know how to properly spell. Even though this is not a spelling forum, it is a political forum, its always nice to be reminded how to properly spell. You might want to write up a quick blurb on typing too fast also. Because it may not have been a spelling error, the poster might just have been typing too fast.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: insurgent
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
And you are any better with a post like this??

Actually yes, because IF there was anything real from the debate to knock McCain on(like his housing bailout thing) I'd knock him. That's because I am NOT supporting McCain and am not voting for him. I understand how BHO apologists seem to think I support McCain since I'm usually going after BHO, but just because I don't go after McCain as much - doesn't mean I can't go after BHO, his blind followers, and their stupid antics(like this OP).

got it?

So why don't you go after McCain? Do you approve of his campaign strategy? His focus on mudslinging? How about his VP pick? His policies? Why do you have to lie to yourself?

If you want to talk about blind followers, you think people who think Obama is a muslim is better than the democrats in P&N? How about those who believe he wants to teach sex to 5 year olds, or the people who won't vote for him because of the color of his skin? And the people who believe he is the anti-christ? Again, why do you have to lie to yourself?

:laugh: Did you not read the post you quoted? :laugh:
 

retrospooty

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Apr 3, 2002
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
And you are any better with a post like this??

Actually yes, because IF there was anything real from the debate to knock McCain on(like his housing bailout thing) I'd knock him. That's because I am NOT supporting McCain and am not voting for him. I understand how BHO apologists seem to think I support McCain since I'm usually going after BHO, but just because I don't go after McCain as much - doesn't mean I can't go after BHO, his blind followers, and their stupid antics(like this OP).

got it?

HWAAAAA???

You seem to do nothing here but bash Obama... Much of it is shortsided, pointless, unfounded and paranoid. You dont bash McCain at all. All the rediculous mistakes he makes and you say zero. Obama has a minor error and you are on him like stank on poop.

You sir, are one of the MOST partisaned people on this forum and you know it.

/edit - and I agree this is a total non-issue. The big issue is that neither of these jokers seems to have a clear plan to get us out of this mess. They are both just rhetoric-ing us to death.
 

Stuxnet

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Jun 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: scruffypup
I think it is ridiculous people are focusing on this, people are inferring he wanted to insert a derogatory term there,... that is fantasy and playing the race card once again by those who want an advantage by inferred insults,...

NOONE can say that it was truly inferred, only McCain knows his true feelings and what he meant. I truly felt it was just a lapse of speech where he didn't have the name at mind and spoke in an "easy mannerism" which we all can do,... should a president be ever vigilant towards those lapses,.. yes. But other than a lack of protocal here, there is nothing to be made of it, though people obviously want to make something of it.

It is NO ONE.



No one...not "noone".

Uh oh... the Spelling Police have arrived... everyone straighten up!
 

insurgent

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Dec 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: insurgent
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
And you are any better with a post like this??

Actually yes, because IF there was anything real from the debate to knock McCain on(like his housing bailout thing) I'd knock him. That's because I am NOT supporting McCain and am not voting for him. I understand how BHO apologists seem to think I support McCain since I'm usually going after BHO, but just because I don't go after McCain as much - doesn't mean I can't go after BHO, his blind followers, and their stupid antics(like this OP).

got it?

So why don't you go after McCain? Do you approve of his campaign strategy? His focus on mudslinging? How about his VP pick? His policies? Why do you have to lie to yourself?

If you want to talk about blind followers, you think people who think Obama is a muslim is better than the democrats in P&N? How about those who believe he wants to teach sex to 5 year olds, or the people who won't vote for him because of the color of his skin? And the people who believe he is the anti-christ? Again, why do you have to lie to yourself?

:laugh: Did you not read the post you quoted? :laugh:

You're a liar. You think saying "I won't vote for McCain" will somehow fool people.
 
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

:laugh: Did you not read the post you quoted? :laugh:

In all fairness, I've seen you post about 1,000 times more :laugh:s during this campaign than criticisms of McCain. The reality is that your party has made an awful hash of things over the past 8 years, and McCain was a part of that process (ironically, he fell in with the stupidest White House policies, probably against his own better judgment, in a desire to be elected this year). I guess in that context your perpetual whininess and petulance about this race is unsurprising, since you're (deservedly) on the losing end of this one. Frank Rich did a good job nailing the Republicans on this whininess last week.

As for your party's performance in the debate last night, its cynical selection of a complete moron for VP nominee, and its probable failure on Election Day, allow me to offer my own hearty :laugh:
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: QED
Yep, McCain obviously left out the "n" word there.

Doubtful...I would bet that he was just having a "Senior Moment" and couldn't remember his opponent's name.

although that may be a valid excuse, we can't afford a President who will be having "senior moments" in this time of crisis. All the more reasons why McCain should NOT be president.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: insurgent
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: insurgent
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
And you are any better with a post like this??

Actually yes, because IF there was anything real from the debate to knock McCain on(like his housing bailout thing) I'd knock him. That's because I am NOT supporting McCain and am not voting for him. I understand how BHO apologists seem to think I support McCain since I'm usually going after BHO, but just because I don't go after McCain as much - doesn't mean I can't go after BHO, his blind followers, and their stupid antics(like this OP).

got it?

So why don't you go after McCain? Do you approve of his campaign strategy? His focus on mudslinging? How about his VP pick? His policies? Why do you have to lie to yourself?

If you want to talk about blind followers, you think people who think Obama is a muslim is better than the democrats in P&N? How about those who believe he wants to teach sex to 5 year olds, or the people who won't vote for him because of the color of his skin? And the people who believe he is the anti-christ? Again, why do you have to lie to yourself?

:laugh: Did you not read the post you quoted? :laugh:

You're a liar. You think saying "I won't vote for McCain" will somehow fool people.

WEAK. Who CAD intends to vote for should be entirely irrelevant. Newsflash: Using a McCain slam is not a defense for Obama, and a slam against Obama is not a defense for McCain. Why can't you people get that?

Staying focused on the issue at hand seems to be a real challenge.

Again, I go back to the Obama/Ayers v McCain/Keating. When pressed about the Ayers issue, many Democrats here (and Obama's own campaign) instead divert to Keating. WTF does one have to do with the other? Both candidates have had very questionable associations, and we should be talking about ALL of them.

These are two separate issues, both worthy of two separate discussions. With mature adults, that would probably be possible.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: RKDaley
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
McCain wouldn't shake Obama's hand at the end. What a bitter POS.

Really? I thought he did.
Nope
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=BN_wsMA_LJA

wow. I didnt catch that. Grandpa's got no class

... and Aharami's got no free-thinking ability.

I know it's hard to believe that a 5 second clip doesn't paint the whole picture, but I'll help: McCain was bringing his wife (the "c***", as Craig so eloquently noted) to Obama, which was why he tapped Obama on the shoulder in the first place.
 

insurgent

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What's weak about calling out a liar? This thread is about a trivial issue that I couldn't care less, you wanna discuss "important topics" like the adults better check which thread you're on. Liars annoy me, I said what I had in mind.
 

GroundedSailor

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Pretty bad when the only thing McCain said in the debate that's talked about afterward is this.

Personally, I'd like to talk about his petty "Did we hear a fine amount?" comment and his from-left-field policy of reducing everyone's mortgage principle at the government's expense.

I for one am VERY interested in said fine, and I think it's more than fair to press him for a specific figure. Everyone expects the nitty gritty of McCain's health care proposals, why can't we ask the same of Obama?

McCain's desire to buy up all the "bad" mortgages terrifies me, and so does Obama's taxing of small businesses.

I'm a small business owner, but I'm the sole employee and I bring in and clear about 100k (no overhead whatsoever), so I'm in no real danger - directly. My father in law, on the other hand, owns a law firm with 8 employees. They bring in over $250,000/year, but I think people are losing sight of revenue != profit. Their firm has been struggling to remain profitable, but when the public hears "it only affects small businesses making over $250,000", they picture Uncle Moneybags running to the bank with a quarter million dollars.

I really think small business taxation is going to hurt us - as a country - a lot. I'll admit I haven't paid much attention to either candidate's health care plan, but McCain's taxation of the $5,000 seems ridiculous.

Neither of these people are what the economy needs right now. I'm comfortable with both with regard to foreign policy, and Obama has certainly impressed me in that regard over the past few weeks.

I'm just rambling at this point... time to hit the reply button.

Small businesses are not taxed (or given breaks based on) revenue. It's how much the business makes, i.e., the profit, which is taxed, or not depending upon the rules.


 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: insurgent
What's weak about calling out a liar? This thread is about a trivial issue that I couldn't care less, you wanna discuss "important topics" like the adults better check which thread you're on. Liars annoy me, I said what I had in mind.

If you're attacking CAD simply on the grounds that he doesn't attack McCain as much, he addressed that. Just because you say he's lying to himself doesn't mean he actually is, so forming an argument around that notion is a fallacy.

In a place like AT where Obama support far outweighs McCain support, there's more than enough McCain/Repug bashing going around, but the vast majority of those doing it have turned a blind eye and deaf ear to Obama and the performance of a Democrat-led Congress. This irks folks like myself and, apparently, CAD.

On the other hand, maybe CAD has conservative values and gravitates toward Obama attacks on those grounds. Obama is further from his base of values than McCain is.

Lying has nothing to do with it. It's a baseless attack in an attempt to vilify your opponent.
 
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