Why? Should I keep it hidden as a mark of eternal shame? The first step to make people aware of mental illnesses is to show that other people like themselves suffer from it.
Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
I think the kid is the bad guy in this situation because he forced a cop to shoot him. I doubt many people here can fathom what that police officer is going through now that he knows it was a "toy" gun the boy was holding. The kid couldn't find rational ways to deal with his probelms and in turn forced the officer to do something that is very emotionally damaging. I think that is why everyone is lashing out at the boy.
I don't think anyone here is saying it wasn't a bad thing to do, but comparing him to human garbage as some have done in this thread (or the other one about this kid) have justifiably ruffled some feathers here.
I still can't believe they make toy guns that are made to look real. How could it not go wrong?
Originally posted by: mugs
You know, you might not want to go around telling that to people.
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
I think the kid is the bad guy in this situation because he forced a cop to shoot him. I doubt many people here can fathom what that police officer is going through now that he knows it was a "toy" gun the boy was holding. The kid couldn't find rational ways to deal with his probelms and in turn forced the officer to do something that is very emotionally damaging. I think that is why everyone is lashing out at the boy.
Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
I think the kid is the bad guy in this situation because he forced a cop to shoot him. I doubt many people here can fathom what that police officer is going through now that he knows it was a "toy" gun the boy was holding. The kid couldn't find rational ways to deal with his probelms and in turn forced the officer to do something that is very emotionally damaging. I think that is why everyone is lashing out at the boy.
I don't think anyone here is saying it wasn't a bad thing to do, but comparing him to human garbage as some have done in this thread (or the other one about this kid) have justifiably ruffled some feathers here.
I still can't believe they make toy guns that are made to look real. How could it not go wrong?
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
No. My family has not a single person that doesn't suffer from at least one mental illness. Have you had to take turns being the "Suicide Watch" for your little sister before? Had to hide away your medicine or anything that could be used as a weapon?
I've been admitted to in-house psyche wards for suicidal tendancies myself, but I'm over it now thanks to therapy and medication. What I went through in my teens is something no person should ever go through. It sickens me to think there are so many people so horribly ignorant and judgmental of those with mental illness. They'll be the first to feign sympathy for a little boy with broken legs, but will condemn to hell those with mental illnesses.
You know, you might not want to go around telling that to people.
You know, 60% of the population suffers from one form of mental illness or another. You probably suffer from one yourself.
Originally posted by: VWhed
I agree, once again the focus is being placed on the wrong party...... kid = "hero" / cop = "bad guy". I feel for the trigger puller in this situation, I hope the day never comes where I am faced with the decision to end someone elses life for the protection of my own. There really is no winner in that situation
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
No. My family has not a single person that doesn't suffer from at least one mental illness. Have you had to take turns being the "Suicide Watch" for your little sister before? Had to hide away your medicine or anything that could be used as a weapon?
I've been admitted to in-house psyche wards for suicidal tendancies myself, but I'm over it now thanks to therapy and medication. What I went through in my teens is something no person should ever go through. It sickens me to think there are so many people so horribly ignorant and judgmental of those with mental illness. They'll be the first to feign sympathy for a little boy with broken legs, but will condemn to hell those with mental illnesses.
You know, you might not want to go around telling that to people.
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
You know, 60% of the population suffers from one form of mental illness or another. You probably suffer from one yourself.
I wouldn't call the kid human garbage, but he is a pretty terrible person for putting the cop through what he did.Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
I think the kid is the bad guy in this situation because he forced a cop to shoot him. I doubt many people here can fathom what that police officer is going through now that he knows it was a "toy" gun the boy was holding. The kid couldn't find rational ways to deal with his probelms and in turn forced the officer to do something that is very emotionally damaging. I think that is why everyone is lashing out at the boy.
I don't think anyone here is saying it wasn't a bad thing to do, but comparing him to human garbage as some have done in this thread (or the other one about this kid) have justifiably ruffled some feathers here.
I still can't believe they make toy guns that are made to look real. How could it not go wrong?
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
I think the kid is the bad guy in this situation because he forced a cop to shoot him. I doubt many people here can fathom what that police officer is going through now that he knows it was a "toy" gun the boy was holding. The kid couldn't find rational ways to deal with his probelms and in turn forced the officer to do something that is very emotionally damaging. I think that is why everyone is lashing out at the boy.
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
I think the kid is the bad guy in this situation because he forced a cop to shoot him. I doubt many people here can fathom what that police officer is going through now that he knows it was a "toy" gun the boy was holding. The kid couldn't find rational ways to deal with his probelms and in turn forced the officer to do something that is very emotionally damaging. I think that is why everyone is lashing out at the boy.
As I said before, no one really disagrees with what the cop did. He did what he had to did. But the kid isn't a dumbass, or a tard that doesn't deserve to live either. He was treated as a bane of society, to the point where he didn't want to live anymore. When you're having suicidal thoughts, do you think you will be rational?
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
I think the kid is the bad guy in this situation because he forced a cop to shoot him. I doubt many people here can fathom what that police officer is going through now that he knows it was a "toy" gun the boy was holding. The kid couldn't find rational ways to deal with his probelms and in turn forced the officer to do something that is very emotionally damaging. I think that is why everyone is lashing out at the boy.
As I said before, no one really disagrees with what the cop did. He did what he had to did. But the kid isn't a dumbass, or a tard that doesn't deserve to live either. He was treated as a bane of society, to the point where he didn't want to live anymore. When you're having suicidal thoughts, do you think you will be rational?
Again, I don't beleve that just because his mommy didn't love him enough he had any right to put the cop through what he did.
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
But do you believe the boy deserves all the lashing that has been given to him? Shouldn't the bullies take the main blame for making this kid into a monster?
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
But do you believe the boy deserves all the lashing that has been given to him? Shouldn't the bullies take the main blame for making this kid into a monster?
How about some personal responsibility? He could have killed himself any number of ways, he chose to make someone else do it for him.
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
Yes, they share the fault for this incident. I'm just sick of hearing how it's everyone's fault excep the kid's (society, bullies, teachers, his family, etc.)
Originally posted by: mugs
Now isn't that sad. Do you think maybe we're a little too quick to classify something as a mental illness when 60% of people have one? Doesn't surprise me, no one wants to feel guilty about their own faults. Saying they can't help it because they're mentally ill absolves them from responsibility.
I'd like to think I'm in the 40%.
Originally posted by: mugs
How about some personal responsibility? He could have killed himself any number of ways, he chose to make someone else do it for him.
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
Yes, they share the fault for this incident. I'm just sick of hearing how it's everyone's fault excep the kid's (society, bullies, teachers, his family, etc.)
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
But do you believe the boy deserves all the lashing that has been given to him? Shouldn't the bullies take the main blame for making this kid into a monster?
How about some personal responsibility? He could have killed himself any number of ways, he chose to make someone else do it for him.
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
But do you believe the boy deserves all the lashing that has been given to him? Shouldn't the bullies take the main blame for making this kid into a monster?
How about some personal responsibility? He could have killed himself any number of ways, he chose to make someone else do it for him.
Have you ever thought about why he did it the way he did? Why he took it to school and make it public? If he wants to suicide because all the bullies made him feel like crap, do you think he would just do it alone in his room, and no one really knows about it? Or do you think he would want to make a scene to let everyone see what they made him want to do? His suicide wasn't just because he didn't want to live anymore, but part of it was also to give a message - one that shows that all the heartless bullying does have an immense effect on a person's life, such effect to the extent that he would take such actions to suicide.
What he did was far from what he could've done, and what many have chose to done. You may all know that there has been many news stories about kids being teased doing school shootings.
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: scottish144
Mental health aside, the kid was stupid and a coward. As previously mentioned, his lfe would've changed after high school. If he wasn't man enough to tough it out, he deserved what he got. This is coming from a person who came darn close to committing suicide several years ago. In retrospect, it was one of the most stupid things I could've done. I held out, my life changed. I won.
he wasn't a man, he was a 15 year old teenage boy. Hence he didn't have the coping skills or resources of an adult, and wasn't able to "tough it out". Criticising him for that is stupid. Turning this kid into the "bad guy" is a way of avoiding the fact that 'our' society let him down by allowing his mental illness or depression to fester untreated, by allowing him to be bullied, and so on.
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
But do you believe the boy deserves all the lashing that has been given to him? Shouldn't the bullies take the main blame for making this kid into a monster?
How about some personal responsibility? He could have killed himself any number of ways, he chose to make someone else do it for him.
Have you ever thought about why he did it the way he did? Why he took it to school and make it public? If he wants to suicide because all the bullies made him feel like crap, do you think he would just do it alone in his room, and no one really knows about it? Or do you think he would want to make a scene to let everyone see what they made him want to do? His suicide wasn't just because he didn't want to live anymore, but part of it was also to give a message - one that shows that all the heartless bullying does have an immense effect on a person's life, such effect to the extent that he would take such actions to suicide.
What he did was far from what he could've done, and what many have chose to done. You may all know that there has been many news stories about kids being teased doing school shootings.
Please don't make this kid into a martyr.
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
Please don't make this kid into a martyr.
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
plenty of people have it rough and don't kill themselves when they are little.
Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
Please don't make this kid into a martyr.
If this is the one case where someone important figures out that there's a serious problem in mental illness awareness (and schools themselves), then perhaps he is a martyr.
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
plenty of people have it rough and don't kill themselves when they are little.
Think hard about that statement and what this discussion is about.
Originally posted by: stormbv
What mental illness did he suffer from?