The 15-year old kid is brain dead

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: uhohs

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
ya know... as hard as i try... i just cannot get weepy over this.

at least his organs and etc are being harvested, so this kids life is not a total waste.

how very Christian of you :disgust:

why bring religion/faith/christianity into this? oh wait, do i smell a troll?

No, just being a gay i love you :disgust:
/sarcasm

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: aidanjm
he wasn't a man, he was a 15 year old teenage boy. Hence he didn't have the coping skills or resources of an adult, and wasn't able to "tough it out". Criticising him for that is stupid. Turning this kid into the "bad guy" is a way of avoiding the fact that 'our' society let him down by allowing his mental illness or depression to fester untreated, by allowing him to be bullied, and so on.

I find it very comforting that someone else on this forum has an understanding of mental illnesses. Thank you.

it's sad, but compassion seems to be a rare commodity these days.

 

[scottish144]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: scottish144
Mental health aside, the kid was stupid and a coward. As previously mentioned, his lfe would've changed after high school. If he wasn't man enough to tough it out, he deserved what he got. This is coming from a person who came darn close to committing suicide several years ago. In retrospect, it was one of the most stupid things I could've done. I held out, my life changed. I won.

he wasn't a man, he was a 15 year old teenage boy. Hence he didn't have the coping skills or resources of an adult, and wasn't able to "tough it out". Criticising him for that is stupid. Turning this kid into the "bad guy" is a way of avoiding the fact that 'our' society let him down by allowing his mental illness or depression to fester untreated, by allowing him to be bullied, and so on.

Thats BS. I'm 18 now. Do the math.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: aidanjm
he wasn't a man, he was a 15 year old teenage boy. Hence he didn't have the coping skills or resources of an adult, and wasn't able to "tough it out". Criticising him for that is stupid. Turning this kid into the "bad guy" is a way of avoiding the fact that 'our' society let him down by allowing his mental illness or depression to fester untreated, by allowing him to be bullied, and so on.

I find it very comforting that someone else on this forum has an understanding of mental illnesses. Thank you.

I agree with you guys too.
Bullies in high school has gone too far that many victims of such bullies feel that they have no place in this world. Imagine yourself in a life where all your peers find ways to make you feel miserable. You have no friends. You're the laughing stock of society. Your parents don't support you and pretty much ignore you too. You are the bane of society. At this point, it isn't about toughing it out. You really feel like shit and don't feel like living anymore. Life is hell.
When you don't feel like living anymore, are your actions exactly rational? No, you just want to show everyone how much they hurt you before you end yourself.
This story reminds me of that guy in mission viejo that killed two guys and suicide. Did everyone in that thread say how dumb that guy was? No. People in that thread felt sympathy for what he had to go through. This kid is no different.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I love how the lawyers are already getting started.

"The cops were told it was a fake gun."

:roll:

EVERYBODY knows that if you point something that looks like a gun at a cop you're going to get shot.

Hell if you point something that looks like a gun at a random citizen there's a decent chance you might get shot (woot for concealed carry) but a cop is a sure bet.

Viper GTS

Agree with you 100%!

 

[Choralone]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I love how the lawyers are already getting started.

"The cops were told it was a fake gun."

:roll:

EVERYBODY knows that if you point something that looks like a gun at a cop you're going to get shot.

Hell if you point something that looks like a gun at a random citizen there's a decent chance you might get shot (woot for concealed carry) but a cop is a sure bet.

Viper GTS

Exactly, it doesn't matter if he was suicidal or not. Pointing anything that resembles a gun at the police will get you shot. Especially in a situation like this where you've taken a hostage and such. Doesn't matter if you a kid in school or an adult on the street. You threaten the police you'll get what they feel you should deserve. Doesn't matter if what you have isn't actually deadly force, just making it LOOK like it is will allow them to justify responding with deadly force.

 

[OdiN]

He was a dumbass. He pointed what looked like a weapon at a police officer, and was shot.

/thread

 

[mercanucaribe]

Don't cops have NON LETHAL weapons to use in situations like this? Some of you act like he deserved to die because he was messed up in the head.. well would you want to be the cop who kills a 15 year old kid with mental problems?

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Don't cops have NON LETHAL weapons to use in situations like this? Some of you act like he deserved to die because he was messed up in the head.. well would you want to be the cop who kills a 15 year old kid with mental problems?

Of course they would. This is the internet!

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: aidanjm
he wasn't a man, he was a 15 year old teenage boy. Hence he didn't have the coping skills or resources of an adult, and wasn't able to "tough it out". Criticising him for that is stupid. Turning this kid into the "bad guy" is a way of avoiding the fact that 'our' society let him down by allowing his mental illness or depression to fester untreated, by allowing him to be bullied, and so on.

I find it very comforting that someone else on this forum has an understanding of mental illnesses. Thank you.

I agree with you guys too.
Bullies in high school has gone too far that many victims of such bullies feel that they have no place in this world. Imagine yourself in a life where all your peers find ways to make you feel miserable. You have no friends. You're the laughing stock of society. Your parents don't support you and pretty much ignore you too. You are the bane of society. At this point, it isn't about toughing it out. You really feel like ****** and don't feel like living anymore. Life is hell.
When you don't feel like living anymore, are your actions exactly rational? No, you just want to show everyone how much they hurt you before you end yourself.
This story reminds me of that guy in mission viejo that killed two guys and suicide. Did everyone in that thread say how dumb that guy was? No. People in that thread felt sympathy for what he had to go through. This kid is no different.

Exactly.

I pity the cop that shot him, he'll be having nightmares his whole life. Bullying in high school and middle school is an underreported and hush hush part of school life, in the end no one wants to accept responsibility for bullies and their actions...so ****** like this and Columbine etc happen....Whats it gonna take for someone to stand up and start helping bullies and the kids they bullied? How many more dead do we have to bury quite honestly?

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: uhohs

Originally posted by: cpacini
Poor kid. Its really to bad that no one ever sat him down and explained that he only had to make it throught another couple of years of high school, after which all the bullshit he was going through now would go away.

yes, because once high school ends life does a 180 for you and everything magically becomes great.

Pretty Much, anyone can get mass chicks at college, and the atmosphere is just way more partified.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Where does it say that he's mentally ill?

Silly me, I forgot suicide is common practice for people with healthy minds. It's perfectly sane to want to kill yourself.

He sounds like yet another emo kid to me.

Oh, you're one of those people. I won't even bother replying to anything you have to say in this thread anymore. You're "beyond saving".

OK (expletive that i will refrane from using). Desired suicide is not a Mental Illness, just like depression isn't a mental illness. Desired suicide, caused by severe depression, IS caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, but this inbalance is the way it is because, in no fewer words, this kid obviously just hada shity life.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I love how the lawyers are already getting started.

"The cops were told it was a fake gun."

:roll:

EVERYBODY knows that if you point something that looks like a gun at a cop you're going to get shot.

Hell if you point something that looks like a gun at a random citizen there's a decent chance you might get shot (woot for concealed carry) but a cop is a sure bet.

Viper GTS

Agree with you 100%!

I don't think there is anyone here that disagrees with you about the cop shooting the kid. Yes the cop had to do what he had to do. But the kid didn't really deserve to be emotional tortured to the point that he doesn't want to live anymore.
Dumbass, or tard that pwned himself aren't exactly ways to describe this kid.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: uhohs

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
ya know... as hard as i try... i just cannot get weepy over this.

at least his organs and etc are being harvested, so this kids life is not a total waste.

how very Christian of you :disgust:

why bring religion/faith/christianity into this? oh wait, do i smell a troll?

I.....I smell it too Mr. Anderson *cue Matrix-esque fight scene in which aidanjm's trolling ass is kicked*

 

[Agnostos Insania]

Originally posted by: newParadigm
OK (expletive that i will refrane from using). Desired suicide is not a Mental Illness, just like depression isn't a mental illness. Desired suicide, caused by severe depression, IS caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, but this inbalance is the way it is because, in no fewer words, this kid obviously just hada shity life.

To have a "shity life" isn't the only factor needed for someone to getting mentally and emotionally destroyed. You need "triggers" that you're either born with or aren't. Depression isn't a mental illness by itself, as "depression" is the state of being sad, but obviously we're not talking about the depression you get from getting rejected by a girl or losing a game or whatnot. You don't seem to know much about it, though.

Oh, and thanks for not calling me a swear word. It keeps the thread from going into flames.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: feelingshorter
kinda sad...life is complex and depressing.

What's so sad about it? One more piece of trash is now brain dead, and hopefully he'll die completely soon.

I don't see it as being so simple. I assume you don't have kids yet. But it isn't always as simple as he was a "piece of trash."

Sometimes people have problems, and that doesn't make them trash. You have no idea what mental/economic/family issues he had to deal with.

Not making excuses for him. I think that if you point a "gun" at a cop, you are taking your own life, but it doesnt mean he was trash.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I love how the lawyers are already getting started.

"The cops were told it was a fake gun."

:roll:

EVERYBODY knows that if you point something that looks like a gun at a cop you're going to get shot.

Hell if you point something that looks like a gun at a random citizen there's a decent chance you might get shot (woot for concealed carry) but a cop is a sure bet.

Viper GTS

Agree with you 100%!

I don't think there is anyone here that disagrees with you about the cop shooting the kid. Yes the cop had to do what he had to do. But the kid didn't really deserve to be emotional tortured to the point that he doesn't want to live anymore.
Dumbass, or tard that pwned himself aren't exactly ways to describe this kid.

I never called the kid a dumbass or tard or owned. I simply agreed that the police did what they had to do, nothing more.

 

[Agnostos Insania]

Originally posted by: sheik124
I.....I smell it too Mr. Anderson *cue Matrix-esque fight scene in which aidanjm's trolling ass is kicked*

To be fair, it's not uncommon for discussions of death to sidetrack into a religious discussion (like concerning the death penalty). It's strange (and sort of sad) to hear such a comment from ATOT's religion brigade, who seem to have trouble with the deaths of convicted felons but not this child.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I love how the lawyers are already getting started.

"The cops were told it was a fake gun."

:roll:

EVERYBODY knows that if you point something that looks like a gun at a cop you're going to get shot.

Hell if you point something that looks like a gun at a random citizen there's a decent chance you might get shot (woot for concealed carry) but a cop is a sure bet.

Viper GTS

Agree with you 100%!

I don't think there is anyone here that disagrees with you about the cop shooting the kid. Yes the cop had to do what he had to do. But the kid didn't really deserve to be emotional tortured to the point that he doesn't want to live anymore.
Dumbass, or tard that pwned himself aren't exactly ways to describe this kid.

I never called the kid a dumbass or tard or owned. I simply agreed that the police did what they had to do, nothing more.

Yeah I was just calling out the people that did call the kid such things. It wasn't neccesarily directed at you.

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

I think the kid is the bad guy in this situation because he forced a cop to shoot him. I doubt many people here can fathom what that police officer is going through now that he knows it was a "toy" gun the boy was holding. The kid couldn't find rational ways to deal with his probelms and in turn forced the officer to do something that is very emotionally damaging. I think that is why everyone is lashing out at the boy.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I love how the lawyers are already getting started.

"The cops were told it was a fake gun."

:roll:

EVERYBODY knows that if you point something that looks like a gun at a cop you're going to get shot.

Hell if you point something that looks like a gun at a random citizen there's a decent chance you might get shot (woot for concealed carry) but a cop is a sure bet.

Viper GTS

QFT

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: mwtgg
Soon to be Darwin Award. Pointing a gun at a cop is pretty freakin stupid.

Not a Darwin Award because it was essentially suicide and there was nothing creative about it.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

No. My family has not a single person that doesn't suffer from at least one mental illness. Have you had to take turns being the "Suicide Watch" for your little sister before? Had to hide away your medicine or anything that could be used as a weapon?

I've been admitted to in-house psyche wards for suicidal tendancies myself, but I'm over it now thanks to therapy and medication. What I went through in my teens is something no person should ever go through. It sickens me to think there are so many people so horribly ignorant and judgmental of those with mental illness. They'll be the first to feign sympathy for a little boy with broken legs, but will condemn to hell those with mental illnesses.

You know, you might not want to go around telling that to people.

 

[Agnostos Insania]

Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
I think the kid is the bad guy in this situation because he forced a cop to shoot him. I doubt many people here can fathom what that police officer is going through now that he knows it was a "toy" gun the boy was holding. The kid couldn't find rational ways to deal with his probelms and in turn forced the officer to do something that is very emotionally damaging. I think that is why everyone is lashing out at the boy.

I don't think anyone here is saying it wasn't a bad thing to do, but comparing him to human garbage as some have done in this thread (or the other one about this kid) have justifiably ruffled some feathers here.

I still can't believe they make toy guns that are made to look real. How could it not go wrong?

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

No. My family has not a single person that doesn't suffer from at least one mental illness. Have you had to take turns being the "Suicide Watch" for your little sister before? Had to hide away your medicine or anything that could be used as a weapon?

I've been admitted to in-house psyche wards for suicidal tendancies myself, but I'm over it now thanks to therapy and medication. What I went through in my teens is something no person should ever go through. It sickens me to think there are so many people so horribly ignorant and judgmental of those with mental illness. They'll be the first to feign sympathy for a little boy with broken legs, but will condemn to hell those with mental illnesses.

You know, you might not want to go around telling that to people.

You know, 60% of the population suffers from one form of mental illness or another. You probably suffer from one yourself.