The 3rd Folding@Home Holiday Season Race in December 2008

[Pokey]

Originally posted by: Insidious

Originally posted by: biodoc
Gee Sid...I had no idea they would start recruiting!:shocked:

Welcome to the race theAnimal!!

hmmm..may have to put my macbook into action too.

They're sneaky :evil:

The MacBook (Core Duo, OSX) is getting about 1,100 PPD running the universal installer version of SMP.
I put it on a cooling rack that I usually use to put pans from the oven on to cool. It doesn't seem like it is getting too hot. (The little fan is spinning it's little heart out though)

What we won't do...

Reinforcements are always welcome ........... theAnimal

Sid: the cooling rack is not as good as the hamster and wheel I have.

I knew apples were crunchy, but I did not know Apples could crunch.

 

[rabrittain]

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
I am sure you can use Intel's burn test with AMD without a problem. In the past, I have noticed that sometimes you might think your system is stable, it could turn out that a notch up in voltage is all it takes to become absoultly sure. Intel's burn test solved those problems for me. It's pretty straight up as once you see the numbers, and all is the same, all is good. If numbers are different, you know right away and you can make adjustments. Ever since I've been using it, not 1 glitch......

I don't know what to think. I went to the link, and it says that the program works with AMD cpu's, but when I went to the download page, it said that Intel designed the binaries so that it would not work with AMD cpu's.

And what voltage should I change - memory voltage?

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: rabrittain

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
I am sure you can use Intel's burn test with AMD without a problem. In the past, I have noticed that sometimes you might think your system is stable, it could turn out that a notch up in voltage is all it takes to become absoultly sure. Intel's burn test solved those problems for me. It's pretty straight up as once you see the numbers, and all is the same, all is good. If numbers are different, you know right away and you can make adjustments. Ever since I've been using it, not 1 glitch......

I don't know what to think. I went to the link, and it says that the program works with AMD cpu's, but when I went to the download page, it said that Intel designed the binaries so that it would not work with AMD cpu's.

And what voltage should I change - memory voltage?

Well you should test your CPU first and leave the memory at stock voltages and at the stock ratio since you haven't OC'd. Check your bios and see what your voltages are set at for your CPU @ default speed. Your VID and voltage should be approx the same since your @ default levels. If lower, set it at the same As what you VID of your chip is. To find out your vid, use CPU-Z to find out.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Well you should test your CPU first and leave the memory at stock voltages and at the stock ratio since you haven't OC'd. Check your bios and see what your voltages are set at for your CPU @ default speed. Your VID and voltage should be approx the same since your @ default levels. If lower, set it at the same As what you VID of your chip is. To find out your vid, use CPU-Z to find out.

Nope, use CoreTemp to determine your VID. CPU-Z just displays actual vcore under load.

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Well you should test your CPU first and leave the memory at stock voltages and at the stock ratio since you haven't OC'd. Check your bios and see what your voltages are set at for your CPU @ default speed. Your VID and voltage should be approx the same since your @ default levels. If lower, set it at the same As what you VID of your chip is. To find out your vid, use CPU-Z to find out.

Nope, use CoreTemp to determine your VID. CPU-Z just displays actual vcore under load.

Yup, Your right! Was a very busy night!

CoreTemp or speedfan gives you that info... Thanks Larry.......

 

[GLeeM]

I was curious to see for myself so I sorted Peters last stats.

TAS
248,448 __ Markfw900
140,689 __ Insidious
128,795 __ biodoc
65,290 ___ Lightstar
33,512 ___ TurtleBlue
22,679 ___ Neurodog
16,468 ___ ChocoboNavy
14,442 ___ HurricaneAndrew
10,886 ___ GLeeM
7,360 ____ rabrittain
6,824 ____ BaldursGate
6,429 ____ TomPhilippart
4,850 ____ TAS-petrusbroder

Folders
288,158 __ Gravity
72,218 ___ jonesthewine
51,527 ___ VirtualLarry
48,644 ___ Drsignguy
36,173 ___ PokeyTA
28,016 ___ Cutthroat
21,161 ___ m1ldslide1
11,200 ___ [TA]Assimilator1
5,482 ____ paulnt04=PCTC2*
1,724 ____ theAnimal
0 ________ TAandy

 

[rabrittain]

There was a time about a year ago - I tried to overclock. I couldn't get the stability that I needed. In the end I was at stock speed with DDR 400 instead of DDR 326. During the past year my computer would reboot while running BOINC for no apparent reason.

So -- I am completely back to stock - DDR 326. I clearly don't know enough about overclocking to be able to do it right. Maybe I just don't have the patience.

To those of you who are able to do it well -- my hat's off to you.

:thumbsup:

 

[biodoc]

Wow, 2 sets of stats! Thanks Peter and GLeeM!:beer:

rabrittain, in addition to your vcore, you may have to bump up your other voltages a bit.

On 2 of my machines (Gigabyte boards) I have to bump up voltages +0.2volts on RAM, PCIe bus, FSB, etc to get a Q6600 over 3GHz.

May want to start with +0.1 volts first. I don't beyond +0.2 volts. (check your RAM specs though to see if they can tolerate an increase in voltage).

Thanks to MarkFW who tutored me about a year ago on this. :beer:

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: rabrittain
There was a time about a year ago - I tried to overclock. I couldn't get the stability that I needed. In the end I was at stock speed with DDR 400 instead of DDR 326. During the past year my computer would reboot while running BOINC for no apparent reason.

So -- I am completely back to stock - DDR 326. I clearly don't know enough about overclocking to be able to do it right. Maybe I just don't have the patience.

To those of you who are able to do it well -- my hat's off to you.

:thumbsup:

DDR 326?, I think you mean DDR 333
I'm sure you could get a stable overclock with some help, but yes you need some patience to tweak but also to allow a stabilty testing program to run for 24hrs instead of your favourite DC program .
Btw if your RAM is the only thing overclocked that's what you want to up the voltage on, however testing for stabilty=downtime so maybe you'll want to hold off tweaking until after the race?
Which rig is it that's having problems?
Inccidently I see that both your FX rigs use OCZ RAM. Often the higher performance RAM needs more than standard voltage & SPD often doesn't set the right voltage. Check your RAM voltage specs & what the bios has set it to (& timings whilst your at it).

Oh & don't go bumping up voltages randomly or at once, one at a time & then test.
What speed's are you FSB, RAM & CPU at?

 

[biodoc]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1

Originally posted by: rabrittain
There was a time about a year ago - I tried to overclock. I couldn't get the stability that I needed. In the end I was at stock speed with DDR 400 instead of DDR 326. During the past year my computer would reboot while running BOINC for no apparent reason.

So -- I am completely back to stock - DDR 326. I clearly don't know enough about overclocking to be able to do it right. Maybe I just don't have the patience.

To those of you who are able to do it well -- my hat's off to you.

:thumbsup:

DDR 326?, I think you mean DDR 333
I'm sure you could get a stable overclock with some help, but yes you need some patience to tweak but also to allow a stabilty testing program to run for 24hrs instead of your favourite DC program .
Btw if your RAM is the only thing overclocked that's what you want to up the voltage on, however testing for stabilty=downtime so maybe you'll want to hold off tweaking until after the race?
Which rig is it that's having problems?
Inccidently I see that both your FX rigs use OCZ RAM. Often the higher performance RAM needs more than standard voltage & SPD often doesn't set the right voltage. Check your RAM voltage specs & what the bios has set it to (& timings whilst your at it).

Oh & don't go bumping up voltages randomly or at once, one at a time & then test.
What speed's are you FSB, RAM & CPU at?

You're absolutely right AS1.:thumbsup: The best way to do it is carefully and one step/test at a time.

I have no patience at all so I just crank up all the voltages and go for it. One of these days I will damage some hardware though. :evil:

 

[Assimilator1]

:laugh:

 

[Markfw]

Where is todays race stats ?

 

[petrusbroder]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Where is todays race stats ?

Coming up in a few hours or so --- all data collected, but there is this small matter of time. ;P

 

[Markfw]

Sorry, the last 2 days were 1:34 and 2:39, so today was a lot later than that (local times for me).

I thought something was up.

Edit: And my ppd my be down 4k ppd/day for a week. My new box doesn't have a big enough PSU, 550 watt won't do 2 8800 GT's and a quad running an SMP unit also Could even get 2 GPU, so trying one smp and one gpu (crap Antec neo 550)

 

[VirtualLarry]

550W won't do 2 8800GTs and a quad? Sounds defective. I've got four 9600GSOs on a 650W Antec EarthWatts PSU. Then again, it's only a low-power dual-core, not an overclocked quad.

 

[Insidious]

Each of my quads with one 8800GTS and one 9800GTX+ and SMP, (overcocked to 3.2GHz) are surviving ok. (the Earthwatts 550W PSU does put a lot of heat out)

I'd try a swap on that machine with one of your other PSUs before buying another one.

-sid

 

[Markfw]

This one is wired into the box. To remove it, I have to cut the cables. I know its PSU. It locks up with more. I can;t even put an USB external drive on, or it locks up also. Defective or not, its PSU. ONE GPU. all night OK. One GPU+ CPU, lockup in 10 minutes or less.

 

[PCTC2]

Well, for a quad, yeah, you're getting pretty close. For my Q6600 and an 8800GTS, both overclocked, I was pulling 340W. If you add another card, you're nearing 90% of the PSU's capacity, which some PSUs are overrated, so it probably is your PSU.

 

[petrusbroder]

The teams' stats as of December 07, 20:30 UTC:

The Folders
ppd __________ points ________ ppd __________ points _________ points _______ points _________ Name
at start _______ at start ______ Dec.07 ________ Dec. 07 ________ in Dec. ______ past 2 days __________
_____ 0 _____ _ 134 846 ______ 2 729 _______ _ 153 950 _______ 19 104 _________ 7 904 _______ [TA]Assimilator1
__4 271 _____ 1 902 475 ______ 6 647 _______ 1 944 174 _______ 41 699 ________ 13 683 _______ Cutthroat
__5 870 ____ __ 836 014 _____ 10 700 _______ _ 910 915 _______ 74 901 ________ 26 257 _______ Drsignguy
_65 769 ____ 15 196 034 _____ 57 916 ______ 15 601 447 ______ 405 413 _______ 117 255 _______ Gravity
_14 646 _____ 2 137 843 _____ 13 491 _______ 2 232 278 _______ 94 435 ________ 22 217 _______ jonesthewine
__3 855 ____ __ 701 617 ______ 4 332 _______ _ 731 943 _______ 30 326 _________ 9 165 _______ m1ldslide1
_____ 0 ____ __ 629 388 _____ __ 784 _______ _ 634 870 ________ 5 482 ________ ____ 0 _______ paulnt04 = PCTC2*
__5 382 _____ 1 730 509 _____ 10 143 _______ 1 801 512 _______ 71 003 ________ 34 830 _______ Pokey_TA
___ 957 _____ __ 12 657 ______ 1 090 _______ __ 17 233 ________ 4 576 _________ 2 852 _______ theAnimal
___ 239 _____ __ 13 862 _____ __ 237 _______ __ 15 518 ________ 1 656 _________ 1 656 _______ TA_andy
__5 510 _____ __ 34 764 _____ 11 340 _______ _ 110 688 _______ 75 924 ________ 24 397 _______ VirtualLarry
105 303 ____ 23 303 490 ____ 119 408 ______ 24 154 528 ______ 824 519 _______ 260 216 _______ Sum for the Folders


TaAm AnandTech Sentinels (TAS)
ppd __________ points ________ ppd __________ points _________ points _______ points _________ Name
at start _______ at start ______ Dec.07 ________ Dec. 07 ________ in Dec. ______ past 2 days __________
___ 274 _____ __ 33 556 ______ 1 120 _______ __ 41 396 ________ 7 840 _________ 1 016 _______ Baldurs_Gate
_13 522 _____ 1 531 760 _____ 25 342 _______ 1 709 153 ______ 177 393 ________ 48 598 _______ biodoc
_____ 0 _____ ___ ___ 0 ______ 3 415 _______ __ 23 907 _______ 23 907 _________ 7 439 _______ Chocobo_Navy
__2 856 _____ 2 562 004 ______ 3 083 _______ 2 583 583 _______ 21 579 ________ 10 693 _______ GLeeM
__3 874 _____ 2 480 959 ______ 3 316 _______ 2 504 171 _______ 23 212 _________ 8 770 _______ Hurricane Andrew
_28 657 _____ 6 099 931 _____ 28 275 _______ 6 297 857 ______ 197 926 ________ 57 237 _______ Insidious*
_10 971 _____ 2 018 284 _____ 11 862 _______ 2 105 088 _______ 86 804 ________ 21 514 _______ Lightstar
_52 968 ____ 12 408 074 _____ 51 974 ______ 12 771 892 ______ 363 818 _______ 115 370 _______ Markfw900
__3 566 ____ __ 943 946 ______ 4 308 _______ _ 974 105 _______ 30 159 _________ 7 480 _______ Neurodog
_____ 0 ____ ___ 25 758 ______ 1 326 _______ __ 35 038 ________ 9 280 _________ 1 920 _______ rabrittain
___ 949 ____ __ 446 828 _____ __ 929 _______ _ 453 328 ________ 6 500 _________ 1 650 _______ TAS-petrusbroder
__6 773 _____ 2 082 441 ______ 7 105 _______ 2 131 687 _______ 49 246 ________ 15 734 _______ TurtleBlue
__1 728 ____ __ 482 339 ______ 1 730 _______ _ 494 448 _______ 12 109 _________ 5 680 _______ Tom_Philippart
126 138 ____ 31 115 880 ____ 1143 785 ______ 32 125 653 ____ 1 009 773 _______ 303 101 _______ Sum for TAS


Difference between the Racing teams:
Day 1 __________ 62 029 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 2 __________ 10 423 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 3 __________ 46 068 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 4 __________ 23 849 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 5+6 ________ 42 885 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Difference: __ __ 185 254 points ________ TAS in the lead.

In the past 2 days the two teams produced 563 317 points! Well done!
In December, the two teams produced 1 834 292 points!


Individual production stats:
Production _______ Name - Team
_405 413 ________ Gravity - The Folders
_363 818 ________ Mark_F_Williams - TAS
_197 926 ________ Insidious - TAS
_177 393 ________ biodoc - TAS
__94 435 ________ jonesthewine - The Folders
__86 804 ________ Lightstar_dj - TAS
__75 924 ________ VirtualLarry - The Folders
__74 901 ________ Drsignguy - The Folders
__71 003 ________ Pokey_TA - The Folders
__49 246 ________ TurtleBlue - TAS
__41 699 ________ Cutthroat - The Folders
__30 326 ________ m1ldslide1 - The Folders
__30 159 ________ Neurodog - TAS
__23 907 ________ Chocobo_Navy - TAS
__23 212 ________ Hurricane_Andrew - TAS
__21 579 ________ GLeeM - TAS
__19 104 ________ [TA]Assimilator1 - The Folders
__12 109 ________ Tom_Philippart - TAS
___9 280 ________ rabrittain - TAS
___7 840 ________ Baldurs_Gate - TAS
___6 500 ________ TAS-petrusbroder - TAS
___5 482 ________ PCTC2 - The Folders
___4 576 ________ theAnimal - The Folders
___1 656 ________ TA_andy - The Folders

 

[rabrittain]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1

Originally posted by: rabrittain
There was a time about a year ago - I tried to overclock. I couldn't get the stability that I needed. In the end I was at stock speed with DDR 400 instead of DDR 326. During the past year my computer would reboot while running BOINC for no apparent reason.

So -- I am completely back to stock - DDR 326. I clearly don't know enough about overclocking to be able to do it right. Maybe I just don't have the patience.

To those of you who are able to do it well -- my hat's off to you.

:thumbsup:

DDR 326?, I think you mean DDR 333

Of course, I realize that there are certain numbers associated with the letters "DDR", but I was referencing the number reported by the CPUID tool of Everest. The same tool reporting the CPU divider as 16. Now if the CPU is running at 2600 MHz, dividing by 16 gives 162.5. Doubling that (because it is Double Density Rate) gives 325 MHz. Because my CPU actully runs slightly higher than 2600 MHz, the memory runs at 326 MHz. It actually is reported by CPUID as "DDR 326".

I probably will try this overclocking thing again sometime, because it intrigues me; but, like you say, not in the middle of a race -- and I'll need all the help I can get from those of you who are experienced overclockers -- so I hope that I haven't pissed anyone off here.

It's just crazy to argue about little things.

 

[Markfw]

Thanks Peter, was having stats withdrawl !

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: rabrittain

Originally posted by: Assimilator1

Originally posted by: rabrittain
There was a time about a year ago - I tried to overclock. I couldn't get the stability that I needed. In the end I was at stock speed with DDR 400 instead of DDR 326. During the past year my computer would reboot while running BOINC for no apparent reason.

So -- I am completely back to stock - DDR 326. I clearly don't know enough about overclocking to be able to do it right. Maybe I just don't have the patience.

To those of you who are able to do it well -- my hat's off to you.

:thumbsup:

DDR 326?, I think you mean DDR 333

Of course, I realize that there are certain numbers associated with the letters "DDR", but I was referencing the number reported by the CPUID tool of Everest. The same tool reporting the CPU divider as 16. Now if the CPU is running at 2600 MHz, dividing by 16 gives 162.5. Doubling that (because it is Double Density Rate) gives 325 MHz. Because my CPU actully runs slightly higher than 2600 MHz, the memory runs at 326 MHz. It actually is reported by CPUID as "DDR 326".

I probably will try this overclocking thing again sometime, because it intrigues me; but, like you say, not in the middle of a race -- and I'll need all the help I can get from those of you who are experienced overclockers -- so I hope that I haven't pissed anyone off here.

It's just crazy to argue about little things.

Im sure you haven't, So when you are ready, Ask..............So I am going out on a limb here but I bet everyone involved would be glad to help

 

[Drsignguy]

Thanks Peter for the Stats!

Great job all!!!!! :thumbsup:

 

[Insidious]

Thanks for the stats Peter! :beer:

:music: :music: :beer: :beer: :music: :music:

-Sid

ps: NICE CRUNCHING EVERYONE! Let's crush last year's totals!

 

[PCTC2]

Hey guys. By the time I get it, the race will be over, but I'm buying a new "server":

Intel Core i7 920
Asus P6T Deluxe
6GB (3x2GB) Corsair DDR3-1333
MSI GTX 260

All watercooled by a Thermochill PA 120.3, Swiftech Apogee GTZ, and an EK-FC200 GTX.
Really wish I could've added this to the race. Also, then I'll also have a E6400 @ 2.933GHz, Q6600 @ 3.0GHz, and an 8800GTS G92 @ 750/1800/2100. All watercooled as well.
NEXT YEAR. I PROMISE!