The 3rd Folding@Home Holiday Season Race in December 2008

[petrusbroder]

OK, MaskedAvenger, aka mike9o, you are in on The Folders' team.
The next team-mate to join will go to TAS ...

 

[Neurodog]

Thanks for the pictures and comments Peter!

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: Neurodog
Thanks for the pictures and comments Peter!

I second! Looks busy in there!


Again, Congrats Neurodog for your 1,000,000 Milestone.:beer:

 

[petrusbroder]

Originally posted by: petrusbroder
OK, MaskedAvenger, aka mike9o, you are in on The Folders' team.
The next team-mate to join will go to TAS ...

This did not work out, since Foxery is joining too and no matter what I do one or the other team will get a very big advantage.

Therefore I have done the following:

1. I have put Lightstar back to TAS.
2. MaskedAvenger is going to The Folders
3. Foxery is going to The Folders.

When you look at the stats later tonight youll see that all works out OK, because the two teams are withing striking distance from each other:
The diff in PPD is less than 4 000, which is approx 2.6%
The diff in points is less than 30 000 which is approx 1.5%

The question is: should we continue recruiting and let the statsmaster decide which team to put the new folders to or should the new folder's preferrence decide? Any opionons?

We have raced half of the race period. We can still decide. Please advise by posting or PM.

 

[petrusbroder]

The teams' stats as of December 16, 20:15 UTC:

The Folders
ppd __________ points ________ ppd __________ points _________ points _______ points _________ Name
at start _______ at start ______ Dec.16 ________ Dec. 16 ________ in Dec. _____ past 2 days ______________
_____ 0 _____ _ 134 846 ______ 3 462 _______ _ 183 998 _______ 49 152 _________ 7 353 _______ [TA]Assimilator1
__1 175 ____ __ 333 011 ______ 1 836 _______ _ 339 260 ________ 6 249 _________ 5 074 _______ Alyyx
__4 271 _____ 1 902 475 ______ 5 846 _______ 1 997 961 _______ 95 486 _________ 9 348 _______ Cutthroat
___ 824 _____ __ 13 343 ______ 2 139 _______ __ 25 087 _______ 11 744 _________ 3 812 _______ dmo = DLiRium
__5 870 ____ __ 836 014 _____ 15 091 _______ 1 041 711 ______ 205 697 ________ 33 848 _______ Drsignguy
__5 907 _____ 1 159 774 ______ 5 907 _______ 1 254 174 _______ 94 400 _________ 5 934 _______ Foxery
_65 769 ____ 15 196 034 _____ 53 250 ______ 16 082 986 ______ 886 952 _______ 118 281 _______ Gravity
_14 646 _____ 2 137 843 _____ 13 785 _______ 2 357 766 ______ 219 923 ________ 30 470 _______ jonesthewine
__3 855 ____ __ 701 617 ______ 4 331 _______ _ 770 699 _______ 69 082 _________ 7 271 _______ m1ldslide1
_17 671 _____ 1 953 799 _____ 17 671 _______ 2 235 399 ______ 281 600 ________ 16 421 _______ MaskedAvenger = mike9o
_____ 0 ____ __ 629 388 _____ __ 129 _______ _ 635 775 ________ 6 387 _________ _ 905 _______ paulnt04 = PCTC2
__5 382 _____ 1 730 509 _____ 15 831 _______ 1 942 732 ______ 212 223 ________ 33 720 _______ Pokey_TA
___ 239 _____ __ 13 862 _____ __ 771 _______ __ 21 556 ________ 7 694 _________ 1 151 _______ TA_andy
___ 957 _____ __ 12 657 ______ 2 237 _______ __ 36 680 _______ 24 023 _________ 5 253 _______ theAnimal
_____ 0 _____ ___ ___ 0 _____ __ 951 _______ ___ 7 479 ________ 7 479 _________ ___ 0 _______ winr
__5 510 _____ __ 34 764 ______ 8 370 _______ _ 195 224 ______ 160 460 ________ 19 414 _______ VirtualLarry
132 076 ____ 26 789 936 ____ 151 607 ______ 29 128 487 __ __ 2 338 551 _______ 298 255 _______ Sum for the Folders


TaAm AnandTech Sentinels (TAS)
ppd __________ points ________ ppd __________ points _________ points _______ points _________ Name
at start _______ at start ______ Dec.16 ________ Dec. 16 ________ in Dec. _____ past 2 days ______________
___ 274 _____ __ 33 556 ______ 1 156 _______ __ 51 410 _______ 17 854 _________ 2 271 _______ Baldurs_Gate
_13 522 _____ 1 531 760 _____ 26 233 _______ 1 943 046 ______ 411 286 ________ 54 297 _______ biodoc
_____ 0 _____ ___ ___ 0 ______ 2 671 _______ __ 53 506 _______ 53 506 _________ 6 216 _______ Chocobo_Navy
__2 856 _____ 2 562 004 ______ 2 668 _______ 2 611 691 _______ 49 687 _________ 1 830 _______ GLeeM
__3 874 _____ 2 480 959 ______ 3 589 _______ 2 534 549 _______ 53 590 _________ 5 227 _______ Hurricane Andrew
_28 657 _____ 6 099 931 _____ 27 938 _______ 6 552 188 ______ 452 257 ________ 55 349 _______ Insidious
_10 971 _____ 2 018 284 _____ 12 897 _______ 2 220 155 ______ 201 871 ________ 30 170 _______ Lightstar
_52 968 ____ 12 408 074 _____ 59 008 ______ 13 296 143 ______ 888 069 _______ 121 677 _______ Markfw900
__3 566 ____ __ 943 946 ______ 3 366 _______ 1 005 116 _______ 61 170 _________ 6 271 _______ Neurodog
_____ 0 ____ ___ 25 758 ______ 1 097 _______ __ 46 558 _______ 20 800 _________ ___ 0 _______ rabrittain
___ 949 ____ __ 446 828 ______ 2 135 _______ _ 472 130 _______ 25 302 _________ 3 853 _______ TAS-petrusbroder
__1 728 ____ __ 482 339 ______ 1 855 _______ _ 509 922 _______ 27 583 _________ 4 159 _______ Tom_Philippart
__6 773 _____ 2 082 441 ______ 7 984 _______ 2 202 659 ______ 120 218 ________ 17 503 _______ TurtleBlue
126 138 ____ 31 115 880 ____ 152 597 ______ 33 499 073 __ __ 2 383 193 _______ 308 823 _______ Sum for TAS


In the past days the following folders were recruited:
Foxery, MaskedAvenger = mike9o
Welcome to the 3rd Folding@Home Holiday Season Race!


Difference between the Racing teams:
Day 1 ____ ______ 62 029 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 2 ____ ______ 10 423 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 3 ____ ______ 46 068 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 4 ____ ______ 23 849 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 5+6 ________ 42 885 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 7+8 ________ 65 377 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 9+10 _______ 17 732 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 11 ___ ______ 51 673 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 12+13 ______ 10 353 points ________ TAS wins this day! Lightstar was moved to The Folders team
Day 14+15 ______ 10 568 points ________ TAS wins this day! Lightstar was moved back to TAS team, Foxery and MaskedAvenger joined The Folders
Difference: ______ 44 642 points ________ TAS in the lead.

In the past 2 days the two teams produced 607 078 points! Well done!
In December, the two teams produced 4 721 744 points!

 

[Markfw]

I agree, the teams look pretty even. I say time for a freeze.

 

[rabrittain]

Thanks for the stats, petrusbroder!!!

Some of you may recall that I had a stability problem on one of my computers, and I changed the cpu devider back to the default. I was advised to try again and to raise the memory voltage. Today, I changed the divider back to 13; my memory is now running at 400 MHz instead of 326. There was not a place in the bios to change the memory voltage. I can change the cpu voltage and the pci-express voltage. I'm hoping that the pci-express voltage is connected to the memory; I changed it from 1.20v to 1.30v. I ran memtest86 for a while with no problems, so I restarted fah. It has been running for 42 minutes without any problems.

Maybe someone out there knows if the pci-express voltage relates to memory voltage. The mobo is an Asus A8R-MVP.

Edit: 12/16/2008, 1425 PST -- I went over the review that Anandtech did on the board, and there is a screenshot of the bios, and the DDR Voltage is shown. Hmmm - maybe I need to update the bios so that I can have access to the ddr voltage.

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: rabrittain
Thanks for the stats, petrusbroder!!!

Some of you may recall that I had a stability problem on one of my computers, and I changed the cpu devider back to the default. I was advised to try again and to raise the memory voltage. Today, I changed the divider back to 13; my memory is now running at 400 MHz instead of 326. There was not a place in the bios to change the memory voltage. I can change the cpu voltage and the pci-express voltage. I'm hoping that the pci-express voltage is connected to the memory; I changed it from 1.20v to 1.30v. I ran memtest86 for a while with no problems, so I restarted fah. It has been running for 42 minutes without any problems.

Maybe someone out there knows if the pci-express voltage relates to memory voltage. The mobo is an Asus A8R-MVP.

Edit: 12/16/2008, 1425 PST -- I went over the review that Anandtech did on the board, and there is a screenshot of the bios, and the DDR Voltage is shown. Hmmm - maybe I need to update the bios so that I can have access to the ddr voltage.

Just really quick, the Pci-e and memory are seperate and have no relation to each other. And usually, it is better to update the Bios. Just take caution when doing it.
Also, a hint, When I go into my Bios on my Gigabyte Mobo's, I can hit "F1" before I enter the MIT area ( overvlocking, or tweaking section) and it gives me things normally not seen if I were just go into that area. So, check your manual and see if you have something simular. I am not all up to date with Asus as I haven't had one for quite some time.

 

[biodoc]

Originally posted by: Drsignguy

Originally posted by: rabrittain
Thanks for the stats, petrusbroder!!!

Some of you may recall that I had a stability problem on one of my computers, and I changed the cpu devider back to the default. I was advised to try again and to raise the memory voltage. Today, I changed the divider back to 13; my memory is now running at 400 MHz instead of 326. There was not a place in the bios to change the memory voltage. I can change the cpu voltage and the pci-express voltage. I'm hoping that the pci-express voltage is connected to the memory; I changed it from 1.20v to 1.30v. I ran memtest86 for a while with no problems, so I restarted fah. It has been running for 42 minutes without any problems.

Maybe someone out there knows if the pci-express voltage relates to memory voltage. The mobo is an Asus A8R-MVP.

Edit: 12/16/2008, 1425 PST -- I went over the review that Anandtech did on the board, and there is a screenshot of the bios, and the DDR Voltage is shown. Hmmm - maybe I need to update the bios so that I can have access to the ddr voltage.

Just really quick, the Pci-e and memory are seperate and have no relation to each other. And usually, it is better to update the Bios. Just take caution when doing it.
Also, a hint, When I go into my Bios on my Gigabyte Mobo's, I can hit "F1" before I enter the MIT area ( overvlocking, or tweaking section) and it gives me things normally not seen if I were just go into that area. So, check your manual and see if you have something simular. I am not all up to date with Asus as I haven't had one for quite some time.

Agreed.

One more thing....google "Asus A8R-MVP overclock" and check other's experience with overclocking on this MB. Lot's of info out there!


Welcome mike9o and Foxery to the race!!!!!!:beer::beer:

Congrats to my fellow TAS cruncher Neurodog for the 1 mill milestone!!:beer::thumbsup:

Thanks for the stats Peter and nice job balancing the TeAms!!!

 

[Assimilator1]

Asus don't normally hide options like that, but their's always a 1st .

Petrus
Thx for the pics , I see one of your PCs in the comp room has the same case as mine (black with a silver egde), Coolermaster something .
And thx for the stats too , I guess now is as good time as any to freeze the teams? do we still allow newcomers?

rabrittain
I've never heard of a mbrds PCIe voltage affecting the DDR voltage so I would leave that at default if I were you.
Re DDR voltage not shown on yours, there's probably a setting relating to RAM control that's currently on auto which hides the voltage settings, you'll need to set it to manual.
Doesn't the manual tell you how to change RAM voltage??

 

[Pokey]

Thanks Peter. :thumbsup:

Welcome to the Folders Foxery and MaskedAvenger .

Drsignguy: Just one teensy little thing........... now that you have hit 1.0 mil points, we would like you to do another million.............................by the end of the month.

dag gum, it looks like biodoc is getting ready to blow by me............ if I remember correctly sid did the same thing to me last year.................:|

I caught the :beer: but it didn't make me feel better. I waved anyway.

 

[biodoc]

Originally posted by: Pokey
Thanks Peter. :thumbsup:

Welcome to the Folders Foxery and MaskedAvenger .

Drsignguy: Just one teensy little thing........... now that you have hit 1.0 mil points, we would like you to do another million.............................by the end of the month.

I missed that! congrats Drsignguy on the 1 mill!!:beer:

Sorry about the pass Pokey. Did you catch the :beer: I tossed?

You can pass me again in Jan/Feb when I move on to another project!

 

[biodoc]

Brown truck rolling tomorrow!

8600 GTS is EUEing 1/3 WUs...:evil:

 

[Insidious]

Thanks for the stats Peter!

The Opty is gone..... so is it's 5K PPD. This race is going to get tight. :thumbsup:

:music: :music: :beer: :music: :music:

-Sid

 

[Silverthorne]

Originally posted by: biodoc
Brown truck rolling tomorrow!

8600 GTS is EUEing 1/3 WUs...:evil:

Just recently i was also running an 8600 gts that was EUEing work units.

 

[rabrittain]

Congrats to Drsignguy and Neurodog!!

I found the DDR Voltage setting in the bios. I went to the OCZ webisite to see what the voltage recommendation is for my memory. There were 2 settings. v1.x -- 2.6v and v2.x -- 2.8 v.

I set mine to 2.8 v and restarted everything. So far -- "Alles ist in ordnung!"

 

[Insidious]

Originally posted by: rabrittain
Congrats to Drsignguy and Neurodog!!

I found the DDR Voltage setting in the bios. I went to the OCZ webisite to see what the voltage recommendation is for my memory. There were 2 settings. v1.x -- 2.6v and v2.x -- 2.8 v.

I set mine to 2.8 v and restarted everything. So far -- "Alles ist in ordnung!"

WTG on the perserverance! Glad it's... "all in order"(?)

Originally posted by: Silverthorne

Originally posted by: biodoc
Brown truck rolling tomorrow!

8600 GTS is EUEing 1/3 WUs...:evil:

Just recently i was also running an 8600 gts that was EUEing work units.

I've read lots of posts about that particular card. Lots of theories, but no one seems to know just why it is more problematic than the other models

-Sid

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: Pokey
Thanks Peter. :thumbsup:

Welcome to the Folders Foxery and MaskedAvenger .

Drsignguy: Just one teensy little thing........... now that you have hit 1.0 mil points, we would like you to do another million.............................by the end of the month.

Originally posted by: biodoc

Originally posted by: Pokey
Thanks Peter. :thumbsup:

Welcome to the Folders Foxery and MaskedAvenger .

Drsignguy: Just one teensy little thing........... now that you have hit 1.0 mil points, we would like you to do another million.............................by the end of the month.

I missed that! congrats Drsignguy on the 1 mill!!:beer:

Sorry about the pass Pokey. Did you catch the :beer: I tossed?

You can pass me again in Jan/Feb when I move on to another project!

Originally posted by: rabrittain
Congrats to Drsignguy and Neurodog!!

Originally posted by: Insidious

Originally posted by: rabrittain
Congrats to Drsignguy and Neurodog!!

I found the DDR Voltage setting in the bios. I went to the OCZ webisite to see what the voltage recommendation is for my memory. There were 2 settings. v1.x -- 2.6v and v2.x -- 2.8 v.

I set mine to 2.8 v and restarted everything. So far -- "Alles ist in ordnung!"

WTG on the perserverance! Glad it's... "all in order"(?)

Originally posted by: Silverthorne

Originally posted by: biodoc
Brown truck rolling tomorrow!

8600 GTS is EUEing 1/3 WUs...:evil:

Just recently i was also running an 8600 gts that was EUEing work units.

I've read lots of posts about that particular card. Lots of theories, but no one seems to know just why it is more problematic than the other models

-Sid

Thanks all for The congrats.


Pokey, The road to a million took me approx 7 months from 1 rig to now 4 and a few things added. I will see what I can do to make that 2 million in less time. I like these races too. They seem to make me, make improvements. Hmmmmm.


Again thanks!

 

[GLeeM]

Originally posted by: MaskedAvenger
Thanks! My Folding name is mike9o. I've been Folding for a long time, but its not been until recently that I started using the advanced cores.

I'm not sure how many years it's been that I've wondered who/when/if "mike9o" has/would post here. Now I know
Welcome to the Holiday Race!

Thanks for the stats, Peter

 

[Pokey]

I like these races too. They seem to make me, make improvements. Hmmmmm.

I understand Drsignguy. I'm just glad we are buying vid cards and computer parts, and not cars or boats to race. I'd be broke for sure.....

 

[petrusbroder]

I have been thinking during the day and have - after reading the some posts above - and looking for posts to the opposite and found none - to freeze the teams as they are now. No more new racers will be added to either team.

Please remember, that assimilating computers, borghing them, upgrading hardware and updating software is not only allowed but also encouraged.
So is cleaning the comps from dust bunnies (hey, are you really killing them??? ) and from unnecessary files and processes, overclocking, tweaking and trimming is allowed and encouraged.

The risk you run doing all this is yours and yours alone. If your computer crashes and burns it is your responsibility only. If you run into bankruptcy it is still your responsibility. If you get cooked, burned or grilled by too hot computers, it is the responsibility of your HVAC-system and thus yours alone.


You are warned.

 

[MaskedAvenger]

Thanks for the welcome! I'm a lurker as you can tell from my join date and number of posts.

In any event, I've been in the process of re-building my folding fleet after two years of benign neglect. I just started GPU folding and am amazed at their output. One thing I would like to know is what is the best estimate of gpu folding performance? Using Tom's Hardware Graphics Charts, what would be the best benchmark to use to approximate folding performance? I have 3870's on two PC's and neither can touch a 8800's output.

I had also never used FAHMon before and had no idea the differences between one rig and another. One thing I really noticed is how poor folding performance is on a AMD quad core system. It performs worse than a C2D E6300 system. Is this right?

Also, I just started using Linux (Ubuntu) on two systems. There isn't any Linux SMP or GPU folding program, so I am thinking of loading Windows onto them. I'm thinking XP rather than Vista, since Vista seems to be a pain in the butt. Any comments?

Again, thanks for letting me join the magnificent The Folders team (which is sure to win based on our sterling character).

 

[Markfw]

There IS an SMP folding units for linux. I am running it, it will beat windows XP by ~20% on the same units. But if you have a GPU in the box that is supported, load windows, as even the ATI GPU points are better than smp. I don't know for sure the 3870 ppd, but my 8800 GT's do 3500-5200 depending on the unit being crunched.

The best config I have is 2 8800 GT's and an SMP all on the same box (quad core)= ~11,200 ppd on one box.

 

[theAnimal]

My 3870 gets 2000-2600 on the 57xx WU.

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: Pokey

I like these races too. They seem to make me, make improvements. Hmmmmm.

I understand Drsignguy. I'm just glad we are buying vid cards and computer parts, and not cars or boats to race. I'd be broke for sure.....

You are so right Pokey!

Originally posted by: theAnimal
My 3870 gets 2000-2600 on the 57xx WU.

Same here, pretty much the same numbers since the new WU's have been updated. Also using CCC 8.12. It also beefed up my HD2900 Pro!