It wouldn't fit, but even if you did it would have no effect. The 6 pin and 8 pin connectors have the same number of current carrying conductors, so all you'd effectively be doing is adding another joint into your cable for no real reason.
I have not seen this mentioned anywhere (maybe because it is stupidly impossible) but what would happen if you used a 6pin to 8pin adaptor on the 480?
It wouldn't fit, but even if you did it would have no effect. The 6 pin and 8 pin connectors have the same number of current carrying conductors, so all you'd effectively be doing is adding another joint into your cable for no real reason.
I have not seen this mentioned anywhere (maybe because it is stupidly impossible) but what would happen if you used a 6pin to 8pin adaptor on the 480?
It wouldn't fit, but even if you did it would have no effect. The 6 pin and 8 pin connectors have the same number of current carrying conductors, so all you'd effectively be doing is adding another joint into your cable for no real reason.
More on point with drivers? Making up your own reality like your own pcie standards are we? Are you still looking for that infamous 960 that is out of pcie spec? How's that working out?
Do you not think that is weird, that the 8 pin and the 6 pin have the same amount of current carrying wires but one is specified double just because it has 2 sense lines ?
Would it not have been better to have 4x 12 wires and 4 ground lines ?
Nothing different.
The core is powered by six phases from the smps voltage regulator module.
As it seems, these six phases are divided in two sections of three phases and 1 section is connected to the pcie card connector and one section is connected to the pcie power plug(6 pin). And there are two more smps vrm that very likely are also fed from the pcie card slot. But this all is what i got from the forum, it is not confirmed for as far as i know.
My dual 8-pin R9 295X2 1100mhz @ 100% GPU load while mining is pulling over 500W from the wall on a 1000W Platinum PSU. But wait, there is more! It's also paired with an 1150mhz 390 also running at 100% GPU load. Altogether, I am at 960W system power (CPU at 800mhz) from the wall. The board has been loaded for months at this level. I guess based on the Internet, my $118 Z170X-Gaming 5's PCIe slots should have fried multiple times over by now. But no, I didn't stop there. For fun, I took an HD 7970 and shoved it into my 3rd PCIe slot. Total system power system power went up to 1180W. That's 100% GPU with > 1100W of power at the same time on a sub-$120 US board.
I am supposed to believe that because of some PCIe spec that a 170W RX 480 will fry a good motherboard while gaming? (75W+75W = 150W). In comparison to that, my R9 295X2 is rated at only 375W but the board and my PSU have 0 issues feeding the card 500W+ 24/7 @ 100% load across both GPU.
The funny part here is that RX 480 4GB's reference PCB/VRM and MoSFETs are higher quality than they are on the $700 GTX 1080 FE card.
For those who are worried, just buy an AIB 480 as it has many other benefits (cooler, quieter, easier to dust clean, native DVI, will overclock better, 0dba Dan operation).
AMD released a $199 card that has and will have no real competition from NV as 1060's 3GB of VRAM gimp makes it DOA. At the same time, AMD already mentioned they will try to fix the power loading via a driver/BIOS fix.
The bigger story this generation is NV charging $70 and $100 for nothing and PC gamers are hitting F5 without any hesitation. I hope NV prices GTX 1080Ti at $899 and GV104 2080 for $799. Just get it over with already. PC enthusiasts want to pay higher prices so let them.
The PCIe thing is a non-issue as AIB cards will fix it but NV continuing to squeeze PC gamers wallet is here to stay for good. We'll see it again with 1060 3Gb VRAM gimping and 1060 6GB priced way higher than the 480 4GB.
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once again, the problem is not total power, but the power from the 12v portion of the pcie slot, specs are for 66W max, 480 exceeds it, your 295x2 and 390 don't
So you are claiming with 100% confidence that R9 295X2 @ 1100mhz draws 100% of its required power above 375W (150Wx2 + 75W) from the PCIe connectors only?
Here is the kicker. As soon as MSI Gaming, Sapphire Nitro, Asus Strix, Zotac AMP1 release 8-pin cards that run cooler, quieter, and overclock better, almost no one will care about reference 480s. So we'll be back to square 1: RX 480 4GB vs. most likely a disproportionately more expensive 1060 6GB.
Electrically yes, but there's complications in doing so. The PCIe power connector uses a special keying of the Minifit Jr, but it's still possible to plug a 6 pin cable into an 8 pin socket. If you just had four 12V pins and four grounds, you would have no way of knowing if a 6 pin or 8 pin connector is plugged in. Since the original version of the spec had 75W through the 6 pin connector (with only two 12V pins mandatory) and power supplies had been produced under that spec, you can't guarantee that the 6 pin cable is coming from a PSU capable of supplying the 12.5A you need to pull 150W.
That's why the 150W connector has 8 pins. Three 12V pins are more than capable of carrying 12.5A, and the two sense pins just tell the card that the cable connected to it has all three 12V pins wired and that the PSU is capable of supplying the current.
It s not possible since the RAM use 40W, if half the GPU power was going through the PCIe there would be 40W + 60W in the PCIe and only 60W in the 6 pin connector, i think that they are connected in parrallel and that there could be as much power in the PCIe than in the 6 pin due to the ATX connection and MB routing having a resistance that is of the same order as the 6 pin route.
Wright. Let me get 300Amps through your system just for a 0.1 sec. The average will be 360W, which is nothing.
I will send you something to plug into your PC, OK?
A motherboard with 4 x x16 slots has to be able to support 300W. At least if it's supposed to be able to handle cards in all those slots. Question is if the PSU 24 pin can handle it.
the 12V pins on the motherboard 24 plug can handle it up to 13A and there are 5 of them iirc. depends on the quality. For that kind of board I would assume its that high.
Look at the first 15s while the card is still cool, it exceed largely 75W and the final value is at this number thanks to the device gadually throtthling and reducing power drain, and of course to the whole thing averaged over 60s to bury the excess in a longer time window..
Or are you going to provide us yet another link of the two brazilian shills doing some measurements..?.
As for drivers it s a long time that AMD drivers are better than Nvidia s, that it please you or not get used to it..
I'm not going to go around in circles with you. You have your own version of reality, I get it.
What I will do is point out the somewhat racial tone you've used in at least three of your posts across two different thread about the ethnicity of who's in the video. It's like you want to make it a point that they are Brazilain. You not liking Brazilian people doesn't invalidate the video, nothing you've complained about invalidates the results. Yes they are Brazilain, and their results are valid. Deal with it.
It's the other way around, only x16 slots are rated for 75W after initial configuration. All other slots (x1, x4, x8) only need to be validated for a maximum of 25W. Anything above that and you run the board out of spec (which may or may not work).Actually the x1 slots are also rated for 75W, the electrical part of the pci-e should be equal on all slots. The 25W thing is the limit for non graphics card devices if i remember right.
It's the other way around, only x16 slots are rated for 75W after initial configuration. All other slots (x1, x4, x8) only need to be validated for a maximum of 25W. Anything above that and you run the board out of spec (which may or may not work).
Mmm you are sure? I remember that 75w is for a video card and 25 w for all other devices, no matter what the speed of the slot is. Mmn ill need to re check that one.
I'm not going to go around in circles with you. You have your own version of reality, I get it.
What I will do is point out the somewhat racial tone you've used in at least three of your posts across two different thread about the ethnicity of who's in the video. It's like you want to make it a point that they are Brazilain. You not liking Brazilian people doesn't invalidate the video, nothing you've complained about invalidates the results. Yes they are Brazilain, and their results are valid. Deal with it.
I know this guy, he's really an arse. Very PRO Nvidia(at AlienBabelTech levels) and also Galax close partner, Galax GTX Kingpin edition equivalent comes with his signature. He's one of the most known OC'ers on the world.
I suggest that you immediatly stop this deffamation, that s for one thing.
Second thing is that they got the full power passing only on the PCIe connector when Furmarking, It s clear enough that they doctored the test because Furmark use about 120W+ and they pretended that those 120W+ were going entirely through the connector, besides here who they are :
Certainly credible guys isnt it...
Now just dont try to answer anything, you re on ignore list from now.
I'm not sure why the device would matter at all. Watts aren't forced into a device, it's simply the available energy a device can consume. It can always consume less, but not necessarily more (unless it's a 480 )
My dual 8-pin R9 295X2 1100mhz @ 100% GPU load while mining is pulling over 500W from the wall on a 1000W Platinum PSU. But wait, there is more! It's also paired with an 1150mhz 390 also running at 100% GPU load. Altogether, I am at 960W system power (CPU at 800mhz) from the wall. The board has been loaded for months at this level. I guess based on the Internet, my $118 Z170X-Gaming 5's PCIe slots should have fried multiple times over by now. But no, I didn't stop there. For fun, I took an HD 7970 and shoved it into my 3rd PCIe slot. Total system power went up to 1160W. That's 100% GPU with > 1100W of power at the same time on a sub-$120 US board. Get the fire extinguisher out /s.
I am supposed to believe that because of some PCIe spec that a 170W RX 480 will fry a good motherboard while gaming? (75W+75W = 150W). In comparison to that, my R9 295X2 is rated at only 375W but the board and my PSU have 0 issues feeding the card 500W+ 24/7 @ 100% load across both GPU.
The funny part here is that RX 480 4GB's reference PCB/VRM and MoSFETs are higher quality than they are on the $700 GTX 1080 FE card.
For those who are worried, just buy an AIB 480 as it has many other benefits (cooler, quieter, easier to dust clean, native DVI, will overclock better, 0dba fan operation).
AMD released a $199 card that has and will have no real competition from NV as 1060's 3GB of VRAM gimp makes it DOA. At the same time, AMD already mentioned they will try to fix the power loading via a driver/BIOS fix.
The bigger story this generation is NV charging $70 and $100 for nothing and PC gamers are hitting F5 without any hesitation. I hope NV prices GTX 1080Ti at $899 and GV104 2080 for $799. Just get it over with already. PC enthusiasts want to pay higher prices so let them.
The PCIe thing is a non-issue as AIB cards will fix it but NV continuing to squeeze PC gamers wallet is here to stay for good. We'll see it again with 1060 3Gb VRAM gimping and 1060 6GB priced way higher than the 480 4GB.
Now just dont try to answer anything, you re on ignore list from now.