Thats closer to a 980ti vs titan scenario than what i was comparing.I would have gone with the Hellcat.
Dodge sells a lot more v6 challengers than it does Hellcats (or before that, SRT8's) because people say "hey, it looks a lot like a Hellcat so it's cool to drive even if it's not that fast"
This is why AMD fails. Even after a presentation about their GPU launching it, they can't deliver a solid performance expectation.... Worst marketing department ever.
Not having anything that matches a 1080 is a product problem.
No. That's an user's problem.
So its possible they were using SFR, but the FPS doesn't make sense.. its obviously not locked to 60fps so what is going on?
I dont know man, halo products can be useful for sure...but there has to be a breaking point in the that logic.
Car analogy time!
Its like saying you want a sentra because GTRs (GOJIRA) are cool.
Blaming the users is the fast lane to failure, I hope AMD never does that.
The truth is that AMD's problem isn't the marketing, it's the products.
Fiji was supposed to beat Nvidia's best but it didn't. The 290 blower was a product problem. Not having anything that matches a 1080 is a product problem.
If a single rx 480 is slightly slower then a 1080 then its faster than a 1070 and far cheaper. They could have just used a 1070.
If it's a decent bit slower it may be on par with a 1070 or even slightly slower. So why not mask it with a crossfire vs 1080 test. In a game with great crossfire scaling as well. Then take it back a bit with frame rate targeting to get the efficiency win too.
Amd is being vague though as usual. Nvidia's launch was better. By far. Even with the founder's edition pricing mess.
The game was CPU bound at that point so it couldn't send the GPU more work, so it was going unutilized.
They didn't want to show single 480 vs 1080 since it would be (slightly?) slower, and people would ignore the huge $200-250 vs $700 price difference.
Kinda like 290 vs 780 Ti all over again, except even bigger price difference.
I will agree that just because AMD doesn't put out the fastest card first isn't a problem in and of itself. The problem is if AMD never catches up- ie it doesn't launch a card that can beat a 1080 until after the 1080 ti/Titan X2 is released, or it never launches a card that beats a 1080 ti until after the 1180 comes.Polaris was NEVER intended to go against GP104. It was from day one a mainstream product. Just because AMD elected to launch its mainstream product before it high end product, does not mean it has a problem. High end cards are a small part of the market, AMD prefers to hit the largest part of the market first.
I would have gone with the Hellcat.
Dodge sells a lot more v6 challengers than it does Hellcats (or before that, SRT8's) because people say "hey, it looks a lot like a Hellcat so it's cool to drive even if it's not that fast"
This is a myth, I wish people would stop repeating it. Halo product is pointless. 4870 and 4850 killed and there were no halo products. Also right now we do have the single fastest card on the planet in AMD's court the Radeon Pro Duo.A scenario where AMD is still relevant to most GPU buyers despite not having a competitor for the entire top part of Nvidia's lineup for most (all?) of 2016.
The sad truth about technology is that halo products influence the purchase of non-halo products.
This is a myth, I wish people would stop repeating it. Halo product is pointless.
Also right now we do have the single fastest card on the planet in AMD's court the Radeon Pro Duo.
This is a myth, I wish people would stop repeating it. Halo product is pointless. 4870 and 4850 killed and there were no halo products. Also right now we do have the single fastest card on the planet in AMD's court the Radeon Pro Duo.
Someone better tell Nvidia then, as we will probably see a 4th gen Titan within a year. I mean how else do you explain the success of the GTX 960 without accepting that it lived in the 980, Titan X and 980 ti's halo? The 280x was faster, the 380x is faster. I can buy the power savings argument for the 750 ti that doesn't need a 6 pin, but the 960 was a clear example of Nvidia's marketing winning when their technology lost.
Even AMD admits that is a VR card. Crossfire might as well not exist if you are a zero day gamer, which is the kind of gamer that keeps the whole wheel spinning.
They seriously need to clarify that slide. It was the worst part of the presentation because it made no sense without any context.Two reasons why AMD GPUs may have been on 50% load.
Culling and Power Gating unused parts. Also if the GPUs were at 50% load, that means that they were not using more than 75W of power, each, IF we assume that power draw equals TDP, which I am pretty sure with this card is not true.
Polaris 10 may bring more surprises than we think...
But why the bloody hell being so silent?
They seriously need to clarify that slide. It was the worst part of the presentation because it made no sense without any context.
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They are being silent becuase they know the card isnt that good and its only selling point is that it is $200. I mean they are comparing the card to cards that are 1.5 years old. How lame.