I overclocked my i5 6600k 4.5GHz with cooler master hyper 212 running Prime95 blend for testing 15 hours.
I overclocked my i5 6600k 4.5GHz with cooler master hyper 212 running Prime95 blend for testing 15 hours.So lets break down the math
i7-6700, $300
Cooler, $0, included in box
Cheap, but ok H110 motherboard (Asus/MSI/Gigabyte), $60
Total = $360 for a 4C/8T @ 4GHz Turbo
i7-6700K, $340
Cooler, $10, Stock Intel HS/F
Cheap, but ok H110 motherboard (Asus/MSI/Gigabyte), $60
Total = $410 for a 4C/8T @ 4.2 GHz Turbo
i7-6600K, $240
Heatsink+Fan, $30
Cheap, but ok Z170 motherboard (Asus/MSI/Gigabyte), $100
Total = $370
You can probably get low 4GHz with a $30 cooler. Which at this point, you're still slightly behind the i7's. If you want to get it to 4.5 GHz or so, you'd probably have to get a >$50 cooler, so you're around the $400 mark. At which point you'd be pulling ahead in ST, but still lagging behind in MT.
As for motherboard quality, you probably won't notice a difference unless there are specific features you want (more USB 3.0, USB Type C, better Audio/LAN, etc). You're not going to hit a O/C wall unless you're going for some exotic (>$100 cooling) overclocks.
So I think from a practical perspective, spending the extra money on a mild i5-6600K overclock isn't really worth it, compared to going for a i7-6700 stock build. If you do more exotic solutions, the marginal increase in price compared to the i7-6700K is less as well. I guess some people just want the experience.
You can always upgrade your cooler you know? Not only will you be able to overclock your current CPU but next one as well. I have been using the same cooler for I don't know how many years.
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OP I bought a 4790K and with the stock cooler i will never OC so I should have saved $20 er so and bought a 4790 non K CPU.
If you are the only one having the problem a bios update will not help. It could be your memory kit won't work in dual channel, I would RMA the memory kit, that is easier. They come in kits for that reason.I did a lower end Asrock Z170 and i5 6500, sitting at 4ghz on a bclk OC. Sometimes I wish I'd done the 6700k, then I remember I havent found a game I can't max out.
Only pain is the mobo is very finnicky, won't run my RAM in dual channel (or boot if in the right slots for dual channel), probably fixed with a BIOS update, however I have a BIOS that allows OCing, so meh.
My $900 budget build was that and a 1070 w/ 16gb RAM
QVL Quality Vendors List just means they tried the memory on the motherboard, doesn't mean anything about other memory not working. Call PNY and ask 1.800.234.4597The RAM isn't on their supported list and none from the manufacturer is (PNY Anarchy 2x8 ddr4-2400)
I Just upgraded from i5 2500k to i5 6600k and it did not change a thing for me. I have a GTX 970 so I have a bottleneck.Bah newer Intel chips are garbage.
Post Ivy-Bridge technology is not worth it.
And there you go.Sandy/Ivy Bridge and overclock it.It probably won't die out of nowhere.You Know?I Just upgraded from i5 2500k to i5 6600k and it did not change a thing for me. I have a GTX 970 so I have a bottleneck.
I7 6700k vs i5 6600k
i5 2500k vs i5 6600k
The i5 2500k OC'd has more power than you need, is that correct?And there you go.Sandy/Ivy Bridge and overclock it.It probably won't die out of nowhere.You Know?
I'm running Sandy Bridge OC'd right now.I had a 5820K.The RAM crapped out.I just don't feel like dealing with extra hassles.Does that make sense?
They die unexpectedly.The End.
Anything Post-Ivy Bridge does.Be warned.
Do you have some stock stats from sandy bridge to skylake processors sold? I thought most consumers don't know the difference.Pure FUD. Intel stock would be tanking if that were true, and sales would be way, way down.
I've never had a problem with Haswell or Skylake CPUs.
Sounds like carelessness or user error to me.
What you demonstrate happened with the i5 2500k i7 2600k even more so I had a hard timing purchasing the i5 2500k back then also MSRP was inflated. I purchased the i5 6600k from Newegg $219.99Well, I remember well that the i7-6700K was selling for well above MSRP, due to supply issues, there was great demand for that CPU. If it was reputed to die left and right, I don't think that would have been the case.
And it was reported in posts on here, from one of Intel's investor briefings, that their higher-end ASPs / K-SKUs were among their most popular. Again, if they were failing left and right (even with overclocking), I don't think that would have been the case.
So lets break down the math
i7-6700, $300
Cooler, $0, included in box
Cheap, but ok H110 motherboard (Asus/MSI/Gigabyte), $60
Total = $360 for a 4C/8T @ 4GHz Turbo
i7-6700K, $340
Cooler, $10, Stock Intel HS/F
Cheap, but ok H110 motherboard (Asus/MSI/Gigabyte), $60
Total = $410 for a 4C/8T @ 4.2 GHz Turbo
i7-6600K, $240
Heatsink+Fan, $30
Cheap, but ok Z170 motherboard (Asus/MSI/Gigabyte), $100
Total = $370
You can probably get low 4GHz with a $30 cooler. Which at this point, you're still slightly behind the i7's. If you want to get it to 4.5 GHz or so, you'd probably have to get a >$50 cooler, so you're around the $400 mark. At which point you'd be pulling ahead in ST, but still lagging behind in MT.
As for motherboard quality, you probably won't notice a difference unless there are specific features you want (more USB 3.0, USB Type C, better Audio/LAN, etc). You're not going to hit a O/C wall unless you're going for some exotic (>$100 cooling) overclocks.
So I think from a practical perspective, spending the extra money on a mild i5-6600K overclock isn't really worth it, compared to going for a i7-6700 stock build. If you do more exotic solutions, the marginal increase in price compared to the i7-6700K is less as well. I guess some people just want the experience.
I just find it to be real strange that the OP considers $300+ CPUs to be budget.
Considerng that performance wise CPUs last longer these days then it does make sense to go higher end if the builder has the money and can afford to spend it. However it will be pointless to spend good money on a high end CPU and be a real cheapskate on other parts.His idea is basically "Spend some money to save some money", not so much that $300 CPUs are budget. (I am glad he made this thread because it is a really interesting topic).
Considerng that performance wise CPUs last longer these days then it does make sense to go higher end if the builder has the money and can afford to spend it. However it will be pointless to spend good money on a high end CPU and be a real cheapskate on other parts.
Don't folks need a Z170 and a K CPU to overclock memory, since Intel locked out memory overclocking on new boards?His idea is basically "Spend some money to save some money", not so much that $300 CPUs are budget. (I am glad he made this thread because it is a really interesting topic).
With that mentioned, I actually think a stock speed i7 6700 with fast RAM (via Z170 mobo) might be surprisingly good against a i7 6700K with DDR4 2133 (via H110 motherboard).
Even with a stock speed i5 6500 faster RAM can give a decent boost:
If the OP did a rig like mine i5 6600k OC 4.5GHz Gaigabyte Z170 HD3 for $90.00, also 3200 Speed memory. The OP could save a lot and have the same performance as a i7 6700k.That is true.
The board with stock speed i7 should be durable (good quality) enough to last.
However, there would be a point where buying a lower end CPU and overclocking it would require a more expensive motherboard to maintain the same level of durability as a stock clocked i7 on a lesser board. In fact, if a tower cooler is involved (for overclocking) there will be less airflow to the motherboard VRMs compared to a stock type cooler. (This might require more phases, better quality parts, and/or heatsinks to compensate for reduced airflow.)
With that mentioned, the overclocked part would most likely have better single thread....and some people really want that.