I condemned nVidia when they did it and I am condemning AMD now for it. I just looked at the Saphire 5770 vs the Saphire 6770 on Newegg and the 6770 was $10 more but was missing the X-Fire bridge. Others may disagree with me but to me that is a rip off. I don't think HDMI 1.4a support is worth the price difference.
This must blow your mind:
Biostar HD 5770 - $130, no Displayport, no CF bridge, not a single adapter, "no HDMI 1.4"
VisionTek HD 5770 - $130, one DVI, no CF bridge, "no HDMI 1.4"
Asus HD 5770 - $140, $20 rebate, no DisplayPort, "no HDMI 1.4"
Wow, these cards are more expensive than the 6770 and offer less features. In fact if you compare the cheapest same-featured 5770, this
Powercolor 5770, to the
Powercolor 6770, they pretty much share the same features with a minor price difference. But look at the 5770 page,
NEWEGG has dropped the 5770 from $120 to $110. Seriously: "Was: $119.99 Now: $109.99 Save: $10.00" And are we really making a big deal about $10, especially when that price is set by NEWEGG themselves? The price range for any modeled card is way higher than $10. So is this
newly released card is really any more expensive? Not on the average.
And notice how I said
newly. That is very important to the context at hand here. In two weeks, maybe a bit longer, you'll probably see 6770s with rebates or on sale. But the fact is they are launching at the same MSRP as current 5770s. It is extremely rare, if it has ever happened, for a card to launch with rebates. Using rebates as a consideration for the final price of a 5770 to be compared with the 6770 is pretty much ignoring a big chunk of
facts. In doing so we might as well start saying, "The
5750 ICEQ is nothing more than an expensive rebadge of the
Vapor-X 5750. It only has three outputses and comes at slower clocks so it's slower but it's mroe exsssspensive."
Now back to the comparison at hand. I've listed all of the 5770s from newegg with no DisplayPort, and all but 1 are more expensive than the single current DP-6770 on the market. They may come with a CF bridge or offer other things, but you can't add a Displayport and you can't change the HDMI from 1.3 to 1.4. Then most other 5770s, regardless of what features they have, are more expensive
up front, with some end up cheaper or the same price after rebate. Oh and all of those rebates are currently set to end on
4/30/2011.
So why is it we should
only compare the Sapphire models to each other? Purely for cherry picking your argument, as happy is doing? He hasn't given one good reason why we should only look at the Sapphire models and why we should ignore the rest of the market. And the reason why he hasn't give that reason is because there isn't a good reason. Let's see what the market looks like when more manufacturers bring out more SKUs. My bold prediction: They'll be in the same price range as current 5770s.
Ah, I'm just having trouble distinguishing whether CUlincoln is having a problem with the data, or the way it's being presented? Or is one bleeding over into the other. Because frankly, if the data is accurate, then CUlincoln should not care less about how "sensationalistic" the data is presented. Do you agree or not?
That's awesome. I'm so glad you've found closure in this matter. Not so cut and dry to me. Maybe you're just smarter than I.
Well thankfully you can admit your inabilities. I spelled out the representation of these "facts" clearly enough in my first... 5 posts? You can get a reminder by simply reading what I just wrote, which doesn't even cover everything that has transpired but is attempting to cover the current topic of debate.
And I've said this several times already, but I guess I'll say it a slightly different way so that you can understand it: Happy may be saying some facts, but he's leaving out a lot more facts.
AND if you haven't picked up on it yet, I simply find it ridiculous nature how the OP was sensationalizing. "WARNING" was not suited for the context at hand. It barely makes any kind of sense, if any at all - it probably only makes sense in his own head. Warning? lol.
Now why do you have a "problem" with the motive of my posts? If you question my content, then man up. In the entirety of this thread you have not made any kind of attempt to stay on topic or address the content of my posts. And you didn't address me directly after I had already addressed you? OMG WHY DON'T YOU TAKE IT TO PM?
Why indeed.
Unless it really is as simple as you not understanding what I've plainly said. I don't really believe that, but if you keep playing that card I guess I'll have to accept it.