The 9/9/2014 Apple Launch Event Thread

[vi edit]

so it's gonna be in here and not something in 'All Things Apple'?

Arguably the iPhone ignited the smart phone craze and continues to be a prominent player in the mobile space. It makes perfect sense to discuss a company that sells a 100,000,000+ mobile devices a year here.

 

[bearxor]

so it's gonna be in here and not something in 'All Things Apple'?

Typically, we usually discuss pre-launch stuff in ATA and post-announcement stuff MD&G.

 

[sgrinavi]

Can we watch Apple's stream on Windows?

LOL

Typically, we usually discuss pre-launch stuff in ATA and post-announcement stuff MD&G.

What's this we shit kemosabe ?

 

[Red Storm]

Okay how about this then... Can I watch it on an iDevice? If not, that's really stupid.

 

[bearxor]

Okay how about this then... Can I watch it on an iDevice? If not, that's really stupid.

Yes, iDevice is fine.

 

[sgrinavi]

Okay how about this then... Can I watch it on an iDevice? If not, that's really stupid.

You can watch on your iOS device

Live streaming video requires Safari 5.1.10 or later on OS X v10.6.8 or later; Safari on iOS 6.0 or later. Streaming via Apple TV requires second- or third-generation Apple TV with software 6.2 or later.

 

[HN]

i wonder if spoofing the user agent will work?

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_7_5) AppleWebKit/536.26.17 (KHTML like Gecko) Version/6.0.2 Safari/536.26.17

 

[bearxor]

The big question mark for me is the wearable.

I don't think Apple is going to "me too!" this.

 

[s44]

The big question mark for me is the wearable.

I don't think Apple is going to "me too!" this.

IMO NFC is a big enough addition.

 

[Ravynmagi]

Apple had the same Safari requirements for their last live stream for WWDC. But I was told after the fact that if you had QuickTime installed on Windows, you could watch it from a Windows internet browser as well.

I'm going to have my iPad on standby (that is how I had to watch WWDC), but am installing QuickTime now and will try that with Chrome or IE.

 

[KentState]

Guess I need to dig my iPod Touch out of my car at lunch. Completely forgot about it.

 

[Oyeve]

IMO NFC is a big enough addition.

I wish all devices had NFC. Its so fast and convenient.

 

[Red Storm]

IMO NFC is a big enough addition.

NFC could end up being pretty nifty on a watch, depending on how it handles mobile payments.

 

[Imported]

iOS device for live stream only? Way to make me think about not switching back.

 

[Mopetar]

I wish all devices had NFC. Its so fast and convenient.

The problem with it is that there aren't a lot of uses for it, so many of the devices that do have don't make any good use of it. Tags turned out to be rather limited in application for most people and the ability to use it for payments was tenuous at best.

It's been a giant chicken and egg problem in terms of getting it to take off and even if Apple helps to jump start adoption, it's going to be a long while before it's ubiquitous.

 

[HN]

another possible work around for the watching the live stream:

http://9to5mac.com/community/how-to-stream-apples-sept-9-iphone-6iwatch-event-on-windows/

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

The problem with it is that there aren't a lot of uses for it, so many of the devices that do have don't make any good use of it. Tags turned out to be rather limited in application for most people and the ability to use it for payments was tenuous at best.

It's been a giant chicken and egg problem in terms of getting it to take off and even if Apple helps to jump start adoption, it's going to be a long while before it's ubiquitous.

IF Apple does manage to make NFC take off, it would be sad to see that Google tried for 4 years and got nothing out of it. Well I wouldn't say Google tried. They just did a piss poor job. But let's see how Apple does first.

 

[bearxor]

IMO NFC is a big enough addition.

Well, I really meant as far as what we know. We really know very little about the wearable.

 

[bearxor]

IF Apple does manage to make NFC take off, it would be sad to see that Google tried for 4 years and got nothing out of it. Well I wouldn't say Google tried. They just did a piss poor job. But let's see how Apple does first.

seriously though, that's what's totally going to happen.

A few years ago when I was using my GNex for mobile payments, it was pretty amazing to see people's reactions. Six months from now? A common occurrence in everyday life.

 

[cbrunny]

IF Apple does manage to make NFC take off, it would be sad to see that Google tried for 4 years and got nothing out of it. Well I wouldn't say Google tried. They just did a piss poor job. But let's see how Apple does first.

Sure, that's exactly what is going to happen. When 50% of smartphone users can now make use of a technology the other 50% already could, the market for NFC products literally doubles. It will happen, and Apple will claim victory, even though they only victory they had was catching up. The market did the rest.

 

[bearxor]

Stream is up.

 

[bearxor]

Sure, that's exactly what is going to happen. When 50% of smartphone users can now make use of a technology the other 50% already could, the market for NFC products literally doubles. It will happen, and Apple will claim victory, even though they only victory they had was catching up. The market did the rest.

It's not about the availability. It's about the use.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Sure, that's exactly what is going to happen. When 50% of smartphone users can now make use of a technology the other 50% already could, the market for NFC products literally doubles. It will happen, and Apple will claim victory, even though they only victory they had was catching up. The market did the rest.

It's not just about doubling the market. I would argue that if Apple had implemented NFC in 2010 instead of Google, and Google was now poised to finally introduce NFC in the Nexus 6, we'd see far different adoption of NFC technology. I'd be willing to bet that it'd see far wider adoption.

Even if the uses are limited, Google could've done more to foster the growth of the feature. They end up launching a feature on a phone but it ends up going nowhere. What about getting transit agencies on board so people can use their phones instead of having transit cards? I would be very impressed if Apple accomplished this.

 

[Mopetar]

IF Apple does manage to make NFC take off, it would be sad to see that Google tried for 4 years and got nothing out of it. Well I wouldn't say Google tried. They just did a piss poor job. But let's see how Apple does first.

I don't think Google really tried though. They added support so that if someone else wanted to make the push they could, but no one wanted to commit that much effort to it.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I don't think Google really tried though. They added support so that if someone else wanted to make the push they could, but no one wanted to commit that much effort to it.

They did try though with Google Wallet. It just sucked since it didn't support all credit cards and your credit card rewards was not calculated right. It just wasn't worth using.

I used it once with my Gnex at Jamba Juice. People were wowed but pulling up the app and getting it to scan right was a whole other thing.